Counterpoint: The election will be called for Biden the minute West Coast polls close

[greenjar_01]

Trump will slink off into obscurity with his whole fucked up family, and even half the Red Hats will deny ever having supported him the way people deny having bought Vanilla Ice's To the Extreme which sold 15 million copies.

[MaryMagdaline]

1. Thank you!!

[BannonsLiver]

2. Rec'd

[BannonsLiver]

3. BTW has anyone bothered to run the numbers

On states that are likely to be called quickly on election night. I’m taking about the Marylands, Massachusetts and Oklahoma’s of the world? I have. And Trump ends up behind in the EC after those states are called. So much for the red mirage meme.

[True Blue American]

7. Ohio is counting

Absentee ballots as soon as they come in so will be pretty well fixed on Election Day.

Never forget, Ohio called, Karl Rove melt down on Fox. Guess who that was called for?

[ProfessorGAC]

24. Same In IL

But, Illinois is going blue anyway.
Geez, we can call that one now.
I just posted because it seems plenty of states count mailed in ballots as they come in, but just don't post them into election day!

[Tribetime]

40. Ohio was called at 930 in 2008 😁

I think 2012 was 1115 or so

[mountain grammy]

51. We were in west Texas

taking care of my dying father in law. He was a republican , my husband informed him around 9 pm that Obama was reelected. What a happy night for us, not him so much.. He was a mean old man and abusive father. Think my husband took some joy in giving him the news..

[True Blue American]

87. :)

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

58. I believe most states are counting the absentee/mail-in ballots

pretty much as soon as they come in. Some states apparently won't even start counting those until the close of polls on November 3. That would be based on the fact that those states no doubt had very restrictive rules about who could vote absentee, and so had very few such ballots to count. This year every state is going to have a significant number of those to count.

But yeah, most states will have most of them counted by Election Day. The fears that it will take days, or weeks, to have a valid result is just nonsense.

[consider_this]

94. FWIW - Many do not count until night of election

How long it takes them to count them once the start is something I am not sure how to ascertain.
it is worthwhile to check to know what your own state is doing (see link below).
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-16-when-absentee-mail-ballot-processing-and-counting-can-begin.aspx

Mine does not count until election night. I am going to wait a while to see how all this 'news' plays out before I decide to stick to my plan of hand delivering my mail-in or risk voting in person. and here it is important I bring the mail ballot to surrender if i want to be allowed to vote in person.(I read that in some states, (e.g. OH) if you have the mail ballot, and you want to vote in person, they will only allow you a provisional ballot that will take many days to be counted.) I hope people do not mess up on details like this and undo their own ability to vote.

Be careful and thoughtful people, and know all the rules so you can vote victoriously! BLUE WAVE!!!!!

[Pacifist Patriot]

96. That was interesting, thanks for the link!

I don't see why Florida's results couldn't be fairly conclusive pretty soon after Election Day.

[GB_RN]

73. So is NC

As absentee/mail-in ballots arrive, the local boards put them into scanning machines, but the results from those absentee ballots aren’t tabulated or reported until Election Day. But, the good thing is that since they’re already counted (or at least the majority will be), NC will likely be called that night.

Absentee ballot requests as of a couple of weeks ago were around 650k. About 330k were from Democrats. Only a third of that number were from Republicans.

My parents and I have ours already. We don’t trust what DeJoy has done to the USPS 🤬. So, we’re waiting until we can turn them in at an early voting site next month, rather than hope that they don’t “get lost” and then have to try to get a new one or vote in person with a provisional ballot.

[phylny]

88. We have tracking numbers on our ballots in Virginia (with stamped envelopes, too!)

I checked last night (my husband mailed our ballots yesterday afternoon):

Your Ballot Has Been Located
You've returned your ballot to the post office and it is being sent back to the election office.
It was last scanned in GREENSBORO, NC.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

4. Sounds perfect to me!

[lame54]

5. Trump is going to call it by noon...

Fox will follow

They called it for Bush before the counting was done

[Demsrule86]

57. Stop

[lame54]

62. In the name of love?

[Demsrule86]

91. Of sanity !

[Bobstandard]

92. And think it over

[JI7]

6. Lets make it happen

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

8. my plan for election night-

plan to have a swig of beer for each state that goes blue, a shot for every one that is called at poll close, and to have a bottle of the best bubbly i can get my hands on for when it hits 270.
yes, i dont intend to sober up until thursday.

[MissB]

10. Sounds like a fine plan

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

11. my liver will be cryin, but so will i.

[vercetti2021]

15. You might die!

Especially if it's a huge blowout

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

17. meh. i am hard to kill.

cheated death many times, actually. was dead for a few minutes at 6. lived 10 times that long already.
i'll just pass put.

[vercetti2021]

22. Whoa

Compared to my 3 near death experiences. You seem unphased

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

23. oh, there are more.

many more, actually.
i have stories. but it makes you fucking fearless.

[vercetti2021]

27. I believe it

I would

[LiberalArkie]

69. Me too, It is kind of "Scared of dieing" Naw, been there, done that, no big deal.

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

71. yup.

i tell my enemies- you cant scare me. you cant even cut my life short, i've lived 10 times as long since i died as before i died. all you can do is make me one w everything. for which i would thank you, tho my dogs would be pissed.

[AZ8theist]

75. You have stinky feet??? ME TOO!!!

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

77. both of them. you?

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

78. imma drink till all of me stinks.

[peggysue2]

76. LOl!!

Sounds like a great plan!

[Blue Owl]

9. K&R

[BlueNProud]

12. This is not a far fetched scenario.

We know Biden will win by 5 million votes.

[TwilightZone]

14. Might be 10 million.

Obama beat Romney by 4% and had 5 million more votes.

[BlueNProud]

18. Biden can win places like NC, AZ, OH and FL

Times have changed but Clinton won FL twice, Gore essentially won it in 2000. If the votes get counted we win.

[TwilightZone]

19. Agreed.

I'd also like to see Iowa back on the blue side, but we'll see. It's an odd place politically.

[BlueNProud]

21. God Iowa and WV used to solid Dem back in the Clinton years

wtf happened to these places

[maxsolomon]

29. RW Propaganda,

Blue Collar job losses for White Men.

Welcome to DU.

[BlueNProud]

35. Thank you. It really is weird watching these states shift so rapidly

used to never worry about WV MN WI now one is a lost cause and the other two are close. On the other hand VA is becoming pretty Democratic and places like AZ NC and even GA places that I used to write off are more than in play.

[Wednesdays]

84. Keep an eye on Texas

Interesting things are going to happen there in the next decade.

[sarcasmo]

55. I'm calling 7 million, 10 million wouldn't shock me.

[Stuart G]

64. I agree, 10 million wouldn't shock me either..

[Quixote1818]

13. Once PA or Florida go blue it's over. nt

[BlueNProud]

20. PA used to be fairly reliable. Kerry won it I believe?

Places like PA MN WI shifting right while places like AZ NV NC moving left

[vercetti2021]

30. TX as well

Give it another election cycle

[moonscape]

39. NC used to be reliably blue as well. n/t

[karynnj]

86. Kerry is married to Teresa, who previously was married to Senator Heinz

She was very well liked, especially in Pittsburgh.

[RhodeIslandOne]

32. I'm not counting on either. Florida is rigged and PA has too much weird shit with "naked ballots"

NC and AZ are a crucial fire wall IMHO.

[BlueNProud]

37. How does Colorado look?

I was play around with electoral college simulator and it made me optimistic about the road to 270.

[PatrickforO]

66. For President? Deep blue. Biden will win here no problem.

Lots of out of state money flowing in to cut down Hickenlooper, though, but Gardner is pretty unpopular. At least in the cities.

[RhodeIslandOne]

74. I think we're solid there

If I’m not mistaken they are vote by mail.

[W_HAMILTON]

16. This is my thinking.

I think while some states might not be "official" on election night, enough results -- and enough DECISIVE results -- will be in that we will know who won. I think we will also see a lot of races that will portend the final results in the presidential election (e.g., a close Senate race in South Carolina and Georgia, etc.).

[malaise]

25. Correct is right

It will be a landslide - no one responsible for what will be 300,000 deaths by election day will be elected and when the majority speaks, no amount of stealing works.

Fuck the Con and and his enablers! ByeDon!

[RhodeIslandOne]

33. Trump is the white privilege President though

He gets a pass for anything. Thirty years ago a President would resign in disgrace.

[malaise]

34. Even for his Aryan brotherhood ex-con goons

It's disgusting

[JudyM]

89. He is great at one thing: being a con man. This is the wild card.

And the rethugs trip over themselves to run defense for him/normalize his anti-democratic craziness. He’s predictably testing the waters with his messaging now.

[MFM008]

26. I kmow

They will call the west coast at 8: 01....
Some states they will be afraid to call.

[seta1950]

28. I hope

You are right, I pray you are right and I’m not a praying person.

[RicROC]

31. wait for who wins those Senate seats.

If Trump proclaims that he is (again) the winner, and yet there is a big upset, where the Blue Wave wins those Senate seats...those proclamations by Trump will sure look fishy.

[BlueNProud]

38. I'm dreaming if an early call in Maine with Gideon winning handily

that will my juices flowing.

[paleotn]

45. BLUE!!!!!

From Lake Champlain to Lubec, ME. From Long Island Sound to the Canadian border. I will celebrate mightily if Gideon wins.

[BlueNProud]

79. Maine has had some pretty distinguished pols over the years

and dumbshit Collins with that blank stare on her face sure ain't one of them. To put her away early would be so sweet.

[NBachers]

36. I already applied for Wednesday the 4th off from work. A California resident; I'm voting in person.

Then it's back to DU for results, if DU hasn't been torpedoed.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

60. Wednesday the 4th off from work. Good plan.

People sometimes suggest that Election Day be a National Holiday. No, for lots of reasons. but the day after should be.

[lucca18]

41. Yes please!

It has been so stressful.
I can’t wait until the election is over and Biden wins!
I am trying to be positive.

[Fiendish Thingy]

42. If Biden takes Florida, it will all be over by 11pm EST. Nt

[Stuart G]

47. Biden will take Florida with the latest comment...Over by 9pm EST..

....Polls won't even be closed in California....Doesn't matter.

[Fiendish Thingy]

63. Well, I'm sure the networks will wait until polls in West close, even if we already know nt

[paleotn]

43. NOOOOOO!!!!!

The elections isn't over!!!!! We have to count AAAALLLL the mail in ballots!!!!!

Donnie totally flip flops on mail ins. That was my prediction over the weekend, and I'm sticking to it.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

61. Flip flops as in he'll claim the uncounted ballots are all for him?

[paleotn]

95. That he will.

The creature grasps at straws better than anyone I've ever seen.

[warmfeet]

44. I agree with all but

"slink off into obscurity."

Put that fucker, and every criminal associate, in a long term correctional facility.

[johnthewoodworker]

46. That's a nice dream.

The reality is pussy grabber can't afford to leave office because of his criminality. The legal challenges by DOJ will start immediately. The courts will decide the election.

[BannonsLiver]

68. Bookmarking

The crow will be delicious, I promise.

[LakeArenal]

48. Yes. Joe will win.

[Turbineguy]

49. News we can use.

Let's hope so anyway.

[liberalla]

50. To have this settled on Nov. 3 would be wonderful, and it could happen...

I sure am hoping you're right!

[Roc2020]

52. Been saying that for months now

Nov.3rd Biden will be elected President and it will not interfere with the local nightly news timeslot. I get all this caution with Democrats especially with that happened in '16, but this election is over and Trump will whimper away like a whupped puppy.

[tiredtoo]

53. Trump is already setting it up for a court battle

This is going to be a rough fight.

[Tommymac]

56. Nah, he is just angling for good terms on a plea bargain.

That's my take on all the hubbub.

He's toast and he knows it. 205,000 reasons and climbing.

[BannonsLiver]

70. Nah

[pandr32]

54. That's how it's going to be!

[BadgerMom]

59. Your keyboard to God's ears.

Or maybe to her screen.

[TomSlick]

65. Amen.

And again, amen. Please, almighty God.

[Wounded Bear]

67. If you look at the E-Votes in play out west...

if Biden gets to 200 before the west coast weighs in, he's in. Cal + Ore + Wash + Nev is 70 votes that will not flip red.

[aidbo]

72. Thinking that it will all just get better once we elect the right person..

..is part of how we got into this mess.

[greenjar_01]

82. Meh

[SayItLoud]

80. He will never slink off as long as media gives him a megahorn.

The media lives by ratings he will have that mega horn until the ratings take it away from him.

WE NEED MASSIVE VOTER TURNOUT!

[dflprincess]

81. He'll try to slink off

but with any luck Federal Marshals or New York State troopers will be waiting for him.

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

83. personally, i think it will be before that.

i think this will be a raygun/mondale scale landslide. only this time the good guys win.
and it will be like then- people trying to figure out who is lying about who they voted for.

[jimlup]

85. let us make it so

I am voting in person despite the risks.

[NightWatcher]

90. He's getting his ass kicked and has no momentum or game.

All he is doing is throwing out meat to his base.

He's flailing and out of cash. He's stolen all he can for whatever comes next.

[progressoid]

93. He won't slink off. He's addicted to attention.

Plus, he has a bunch of criminal friends to pardon before he goes.

[skip fox]

97. Counter-Counterpoint: If we don't worry, who will?

And why will act if no one worries?

The idea of tuning this out has massive drawbacks.

[greenjar_01]

98. Just as a note

My post doesn't suggest or imply not worrying or tuning it out.

Cheers.

[BannonsLiver]

99. Except the OP didn't say any of that

Incidentally, being crippled by fear also has major drawbacks as well. So there’s that.

[erpowers]

100. The Magats Are Not Leaving

Although I was surprised by the closeness of the election; I am not surprised at the reactions from many on the right. I did not think the red hats would turn their backs on Trump, or claim they never voted for him. I thought that if anything was going to happen it was going to be that Trump denied ever being the leader of the red hats. I thought there was a chance that he would try to claim that the red hats was something connected to Joe Biden and the Democrats.

I thought that would be a few people who were going to pretend they had not been a part of the red hat brigade. I thought people like Coby Covington would come out and claim that he had not actually been a red hat, or he would just try to make the transition by claiming that he was actually just supporting the American flag and the country, but now that Biden has been elected President he was a supporter of Biden because he was a supporter of the country.

I also thought there would be a few politicians who, after the election, started to distance themselves from Donald Trump. I guess I thought that would include Sen. Marco Rubio.

So, in the end I am not surprised that the red hats are not leaving Donald Trump. I do not expect them to leave him even after he leaves the White House.