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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:34 PM Sep 2020

I don't give a rat's ass if Trump accepts the results or not.

I am tired of the media asking him this question. It's irrelevant. He doesn't have to accept the results. Roy Moore refused to accept the results to his senate loss a couple years ago and we all moved on. Trump can be dragged from the White House if that's what it'll take.

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I don't give a rat's ass if Trump accepts the results or not. (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 OP
They need to start asking him what he's going to do in his retirement. Lars39 Sep 2020 #1
Or in prison goose2300 Sep 2020 #7
Good one! onetexan Sep 2020 #73
"Or in prison" LiberalLovinLug Sep 2020 #76
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2020 #80
They should ask him why he won't release taxes, give dna in rape trial JI7 Sep 2020 #13
+1,000 nt Delmette2.0 Sep 2020 #22
The Press should ask all those questions and they should start now. NoRoadUntravelled Sep 2020 #54
Absolutely. I was saying this when it first started. Shouldn't be asked, he should be ignored. LizBeth Sep 2020 #2
"...feeding Trump" Mike 03 Sep 2020 #4
Right. LizBeth Sep 2020 #6
It's all bluff and bluster. At heart, he's a complete coward. TwilightZone Sep 2020 #3
Agree! Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #12
Oh yeah.. put me in the column too. Cha Sep 2020 #5
f#ck him... handmade34 Sep 2020 #8
No shit! world wide wally Sep 2020 #9
Ditto - I could care less what Trump says or thinks. walkingman Sep 2020 #10
The problem is... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #11
You don't know but then go on to dangerously speculate. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #14
thank you. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #46
I don't think these scenarios of what if.... northoftheborder Sep 2020 #65
anyone who doesnt think this site is being watched ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #66
If you fully wade into this topic you'll find it is sooo way out there... Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #15
Not that he won't try . . . JFK1961 Sep 2020 #52
Neither can Trump. TwilightZone Sep 2020 #17
Not sure that's exactly true with regard to the military TimeToGo Sep 2020 #40
Looking forward to the video of Trump being drug out of the White House. sarcasmo Sep 2020 #16
Oh me too! Bobstandard Sep 2020 #20
Drag that asshole from the white house warmfeet Sep 2020 #18
IMHO He is just a criminal angling for the best plea bargain terms he can get. Tommymac Sep 2020 #19
You win the thread! He's posturing to pitch a deal ... Whiskeytide Sep 2020 #39
drag his ass out bdamomma Sep 2020 #21
I agree- the more the media acts like he has the power to reject the election results-- dawg day Sep 2020 #23
Good point. Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2020 #49
My take stopwastingmymoney Sep 2020 #24
100% agree. Everyone needs to stop giving credence to the stupid questions! ffr Sep 2020 #25
Do u give a rats ass if Cryptoad Sep 2020 #26
Why would I give a rat's ass about something that isn't going to happen? Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #31
Is that a "NO"? Cryptoad Sep 2020 #37
About putting every other baby born in the US to death? Yeah, I guess I'd be opposed to that. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #38
Perhaps the "losers" and "suckers" in the military will remove you, Donny. mudstump Sep 2020 #27
Agreed. The media is idiotic. They let him gain attention treestar Sep 2020 #28
Stacey Abrams never conceded the governor's race in GA. Sogo Sep 2020 #29
Trump is going to find out just how powerless and alone he really is Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #30
You should give a rats ass if his non-acceptance means his campaign pnwmom Sep 2020 #32
I don't. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #33
That's not what happened in 2000 TimeToGo Sep 2020 #42
I realize that. But the constitutionality of appointing electors also came up. nt pnwmom Sep 2020 #45
That was a terrifying article, but I'm glad they put it out there. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2020 #71
I Must Ask...... McKim Sep 2020 #34
Extradite him to New York. rickyhall Sep 2020 #35
and fuck his "armed followers" PNW-Dem Sep 2020 #36
Ha! The morbidly obese twins movingviolation Sep 2020 #68
The media is trying to make him look sane. They are doing their old "make it a close election" C Moon Sep 2020 #41
90% chance he's out of the country or resigned/Pence pardoned before Jan 20. Pobeka Sep 2020 #43
Prepare. Grokenstein Sep 2020 #44
if we are lucky, he strokes out watching ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #47
I agree Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2020 #48
I hope he does test the matter. Should be entertaining. Nt BootinUp Sep 2020 #50
That's how I feel too, DI mcar Sep 2020 #51
I've often wondered, where does one get a rat's ass to give anyway? patphil Sep 2020 #53
Fucking Right! We'll drag him out kicking and screaming if necessary In It to Win It Sep 2020 #55
The question should be: Will Trump peacefully surrender to law enforcement when they come tclambert Sep 2020 #56
I agree and additionally...... LPBBEAR Sep 2020 #57
el pendejo es loco, yet to keep asking same idiotic question and .. RestoreAmerica2020 Sep 2020 #58
DC needs to have warrants ready so the minute Joe is sworn in, he's arrested. Ligyron Sep 2020 #67
OH PLEASE PLEASE DRAG HIM OUT FEET FIRST.. yuiyoshida Sep 2020 #59
I don't care if Trump accepts the results or not either.... cheezmaka Sep 2020 #60
Have the guys in the white coats put him in a straight jacket & haul his big fat a** out Illumination Sep 2020 #61
Just admit it Donny... Blue Owl Sep 2020 #62
Trump is a coward with a big mouth vlyons Sep 2020 #63
Decent Americans are going to kick this loser to the curb dlk Sep 2020 #64
Absolutely. In fact I'd prefer dragging him out of the WH no matter what. marble falls Sep 2020 #69
There are issues they go beyond whether Trump verbally concedes or not. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2020 #70
lol trump just tossed a toy out and some people are chasing it rockfordfile Sep 2020 #72
i agree. Why are we going to accept the election results if he steals the election? samsingh Sep 2020 #74
Like he's got that option. Beartracks Sep 2020 #75
"I am tired of the media asking him this question." Absolutely! TryLogic Sep 2020 #77
PS They should follow Rachel's lead and focus on what Trump and his mob are doing, not what they TryLogic Sep 2020 #78
In some ways I kinda hope he doesn't . . . Dem_in_Nebr. Sep 2020 #79

LiberalLovinLug

(14,168 posts)
76. "Or in prison"
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:08 PM
Sep 2020

This.
With the way he has treated the free press, I can't understand why they are still so cordial with him. Still always frame questions in the best possible light for him. Like his answer to that actually is important to anyone other than himself.

I don't get either why even ask him that? I suppose for ratings, anticipating that he will answer just as he did. To get a headline.

Why not ask, "If you lose, are you prepared to face the criminal charges that will be waiting for you?"

Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #76)

JI7

(89,244 posts)
13. They should ask him why he won't release taxes, give dna in rape trial
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:52 PM
Sep 2020

Ask him who were his friends that he claimed died in 9-11.

Ask him about bone spurs.

Ask why he demands those around him get tested for coronavirus and he doesn't get near the audience or shakes their hands. But is ok having the audience packed closely together.



NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
54. The Press should ask all those questions and they should start now.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:28 PM
Sep 2020

Tell him "The People want to know."

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
2. Absolutely. I was saying this when it first started. Shouldn't be asked, he should be ignored.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:36 PM
Sep 2020

It is like media and people playing this are feeding Trump.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. "...feeding Trump"
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:37 PM
Sep 2020

That is exactly what they are doing, as if this a TV game show. It's almost as if the reporters baiting him are not taking into account the enormity of what is at stake here.

TwilightZone

(25,451 posts)
3. It's all bluff and bluster. At heart, he's a complete coward.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:37 PM
Sep 2020

When the time comes, he'll leave without incident, outside of more bleating.

Cha

(297,026 posts)
5. Oh yeah.. put me in the column too.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:38 PM
Sep 2020

He won't accept Reality.. the fucking asshole LIES about Winning the popular vote in 2016.

walkingman

(7,591 posts)
10. Ditto - I could care less what Trump says or thinks.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:45 PM
Sep 2020

edited to add - I wish someone would take a cattle prod to his BIG butt.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
11. The problem is...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:48 PM
Sep 2020

...Roy Moore couldn't call out the military to keep him in office.

Could Trump? I don't know if any of these "get state legislatures to assign Trump electors no matter how their people vote" scenarios are workable but, if they are, they're fully constitutional -- as even a liberal SCOTUS would have to concede -- and so Trump could be validly re-elected despite Biden gaining 270+ electoral votes if the states hadn't intervened. And, thus, being validly re-elected, he could command the military to put down any "insurrection" objecting to the theft, and they'd have no choice but to obey his orders.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
14. You don't know but then go on to dangerously speculate.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:53 PM
Sep 2020

What a message to be sending as people gear up to vote - no matter how many of you vote for Biden, no matter how big his win, Trump can just have the electors vote for him regardless. Do you not get how fucking dangerous of a message that is or do you just not care? The fastest way to get people to not vote is to believe voting won't matter and you're literally pushing a bullshit conspiracy theory that is based on the premise that no matter how many people vote - it won't matter.

It's gross. But I guess I could see it if you secretly wanted Trump to win. That would make sense to push baseless bullshit like that hoping it turns off enough voters so he can legitimately win.

 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
46. thank you.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:09 PM
Sep 2020

anyone who doesnt think this site is being watched needs to wake up.
posts like this tell the wrong ppl that their crap is selling.

northoftheborder

(7,571 posts)
65. I don't think these scenarios of what if....
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 11:05 AM
Sep 2020

...are positive. Don't give the idiot any ideas. He's not smart enough to come up with his own plots - he just grabs any sinister idea he hears no matter how crazy and shouts it out. Also, I'm sick of the media continually asking these questions.

 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
66. anyone who doesnt think this site is being watched
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 11:06 AM
Sep 2020

shouldn't be using the intertubes.
they will be watching what sells. we need to learn not to buy their shit.

Thekaspervote

(32,750 posts)
15. If you fully wade into this topic you'll find it is sooo way out there...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:55 PM
Sep 2020

Swing states with dem govs that have to sign off on any election law allowing legislators to appoint a loyal group of electors, even a conservative SCOTUS willing to subvert the will of the majority when he doesn’t reach 270.. cuckoo!!

And it gets even crazier..the guy has lost it

JFK1961

(11 posts)
52. Not that he won't try . . .
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:24 PM
Sep 2020

However, Thekaspervote is correct. There seems to be a lot of talk regarding state legislators arbitrarily choosing electors. That is not what is allowed or prescribed when the Constitution discusses this. The Constitution simply states that the state legislature shall determine how the electors vote. That is determined by existing law--not a an instant poll at the time of the election.

No state allows for the replacement of elected electors by any others except in the case of the death or incapacity of an elector. Then, the replacement is chosen by the leadership of the winning electors. The only variance is whether the elected electors are required to vote for the candidate they were representing. Some states require that, others don't. But, since the electors for each party or candidate are chosen by that candidate's organization, it's quite unlikely that any Biden elector would vote for tRump.

Again, it won't be a surprise whatever tRump does, but it's not correct that he could just get the Republicon legislatures to replace the legitimate electors.

TwilightZone

(25,451 posts)
17. Neither can Trump.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:59 PM
Sep 2020

Their allegiance is to the president. If that president is Biden, they will throw Trump out on his ass.

Won't need to. He's a coward. He'll leave without incident, guaranteed.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
19. IMHO He is just a criminal angling for the best plea bargain terms he can get.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:07 PM
Sep 2020

By threatening one horrible thing after another, he is just trying to get good terms legally after he is fucking thrown out of the WH on his sorry Killer Clown ass.

You know, we all watch Law & Order...the crook says 'I'll doink my doinkee' again unless you give me a reduced sentence...and the lawyers fret and stew and the legal system does it's thing regardless.

Don't forget that there are 30% of them; that means there are at least 60% of us. Fuck the Killer Clowns noise, he is a coward and will fold before you can say "person".

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
39. You win the thread! He's posturing to pitch a deal ...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:39 PM
Sep 2020

... to Biden. “Pardon me, and I’ll stop the bullshit.”

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
23. I agree- the more the media acts like he has the power to reject the election results--
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:16 PM
Sep 2020

the more violence there will be when he loses.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
49. Good point.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:16 PM
Sep 2020

The media really needs to inject more factual info to highlight the radical nature of this RWBS.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
25. 100% agree. Everyone needs to stop giving credence to the stupid questions!
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:18 PM
Sep 2020

The American Experiment either succeeds or fails in the next 100 days.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
31. Why would I give a rat's ass about something that isn't going to happen?
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:25 PM
Sep 2020

That's like asking me if I would care if the SCOTUS ruled tomorrow that every other baby born in the United States had to be put to death.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
28. Agreed. The media is idiotic. They let him gain attention
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:20 PM
Sep 2020

this way. They should be reporting on how we could have a POTUS that thinks he has any way around his losing.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
29. Stacey Abrams never conceded the governor's race in GA.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:21 PM
Sep 2020

Guess what? It didn't matter. It's just a formality and not a legality.

I totally agree with your OP.

And when Biden was asked about it, he said, he had not doubt that on January 20, when a new President is sworn in, any trespassers remaining in the WH will be removed by the Secret Service.

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
30. Trump is going to find out just how powerless and alone he really is
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:24 PM
Sep 2020

If anyone thinks the military, the courts, the states (most of them), average citizens, congress, and Biden would just shrug and say "ok, I guess you're an emperor now" then you have too little faith in the United States. Trump is leaving the white house one way or another. If he doesn't do so peacefully, we have other methods to make it happen.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
32. You should give a rats ass if his non-acceptance means his campaign
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:27 PM
Sep 2020

is conspiring with Republican governors of swing states to appoint their own set of electors, bypassing the popular vote of the people in the state.

Which, it turns out, is constitutional. The issue came up as recently as Bush v. Gore.

This is what a report in the Atlantic is alleging.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
71. That was a terrifying article, but I'm glad they put it out there.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:28 PM
Sep 2020

Shining a light on this backdoor weakness could help prevent the GOP from exploiting it.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
34. I Must Ask......
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:29 PM
Sep 2020

I must ask why is Donald Trump the subject of so many more stories on DU than Joe Biden?
Are we doing right by paying him so much attention? I want to hear about all Joe's speeches here.
Let us not fall into the tabloidization frenzy that plague other sites.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
41. The media is trying to make him look sane. They are doing their old "make it a close election"
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:40 PM
Sep 2020

so they can sell more ads.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
43. 90% chance he's out of the country or resigned/Pence pardoned before Jan 20.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:42 PM
Sep 2020

Problem is: Where does he go? Does Putin still get something from a washed up poltician who is a broke reality TV star? I suppose Putin may want to liquidate all of Trump's assets if anything remains of value...

patphil

(6,158 posts)
53. I've often wondered, where does one get a rat's ass to give anyway?
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:24 PM
Sep 2020

I mean, this sounds like cruelty to rats to me.
If we gave the whole rat that might not be so bad.

It's like saying I don't give a flying fuck.
I didn't know fucks could fly!

Of course they could be referring to fuckers, and may be they can fly, or maybe they can't. We'd have to throw them out of an airplane at say, 10,000 feet to find out.

Perhaps we could throw the fuckers out with a rat, or throw the fucking rats out.
But then why wait for them to engage in sex before throwing them out?

Gosh! its a complicated world!

I'll settle for the Secret Service dragging Trump out of the White House on January 20, 2021.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
56. The question should be: Will Trump peacefully surrender to law enforcement when they come
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:32 PM
Sep 2020

to handcuff him right after Biden takes the Oath?

The real question is which agency gets first priority to arrest him? The FBI is a good, solid bet. I'd kinda like to see the Postal Inspectors arrest him.

LPBBEAR

(295 posts)
57. I agree and additionally......
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:35 PM
Sep 2020

I don't care if he wins or loses. Drag his criminal ass out of the White House no matter which way the election goes.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
58. el pendejo es loco, yet to keep asking same idiotic question and ..
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:04 PM
Sep 2020

..expecting a different response IS insane! Just tired of listening, watching know nothing guy say repeat the same ole tired routine. Rex Tillerson had it right [allegedly] ...tRump is a f#$king moron!

Yet, here we are same as in 2016-- MSM giving him free airtime to spew his hateful racist propaganda and lies. When he loses, he will be required to leave the WH y punto! If he resists--so be it, he'll be frogmarched out of D.C. where he'll inevitably be indicted for numerous crimes. Y ay sta! [that's it!]

Ligyron

(7,622 posts)
67. DC needs to have warrants ready so the minute Joe is sworn in, he's arrested.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 11:31 AM
Sep 2020

Maybe they already do via that Grand Jury? IDK, the whole thing is so complicated I forget who or what did or did not do anything. Still, they could grab him for extradition to New York if that state has something ready.

Wouldn't that be great to see on live tee vee? I hope he resists and they have to take him down and kneel on his neck for awhile. Not enough to kill him mind you, because they next have to be careful putting him in back of the squad care so he doesn't hit his head on the way in. If they mess up, maybe that thing on the top of his head will cushion the blow a bit. That's if it doesn't get scrapped off on the way in. How embarrassing that would be.

There again, he may know what's liable to happen and not even show up for the inauguration. He's not going to be gracious and shake Joe's hand like a real human ex President would, that's for sure and I don't think Vlad likes losers so maybe he'll be in no extradition treaty Venezuela with his new buddy.

cheezmaka

(737 posts)
60. I don't care if Trump accepts the results or not either....
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:20 PM
Sep 2020

That's why we have the National Guard. My guess is that in January the Secret Service will declare him a "trespasser" if he decides to stay. If by chance he tries to influence the "electors" then look for a "massive insurrection"! We think this nation is in turmoil NOW with the protests????

Blue Owl

(50,325 posts)
62. Just admit it Donny...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:36 PM
Sep 2020

You fucking suck, you're a big fat racist nazi slob, and you're gonna LOSE in November to a decent man.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
63. Trump is a coward with a big mouth
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:50 PM
Sep 2020

He will go peacefully, escorted out by the Secret Service and the US Marshalls. About a week earlier, the WH staff will already be packing his stuff and transporting it to wherever. I just hope they count all the silver before he leaves.

dlk

(11,537 posts)
64. Decent Americans are going to kick this loser to the curb
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:21 AM
Sep 2020

Trump can plot and plan as much as he likes, he will still be gone in January. Americans have had enough!

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
70. There are issues they go beyond whether Trump verbally concedes or not.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:27 PM
Sep 2020

That has no bearing on the outcome whatsoever. It really doesn't matter what he thinks...unless he bogs us down in litigation. He may not be able to squat in the White House come noon on January 20, 2021 if the Electoral College has certified the results and he's lost. But his inability to accept a loss and concede like a responsible adult sure can make for a very messy transition period indeed.

I think that's really what the question is asking. It's not the concern that he'll try to stay in office if he loses, it's will he not be able to psychologically accept a loss and cause a whole lot of damage on his way out.

samsingh

(17,594 posts)
74. i agree. Why are we going to accept the election results if he steals the election?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 01:44 PM
Sep 2020

traitor trump cannot win without cheating

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
77. "I am tired of the media asking him this question." Absolutely!
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:16 PM
Sep 2020

It is a foolish, inappropriate question that generates anxiety among the public. I want agencies like the FBI need to have a plan in case he refuses to leave or some other nonsense, but giving him the TV time is bad for everyone.

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
78. PS They should follow Rachel's lead and focus on what Trump and his mob are doing, not what they
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:19 PM
Sep 2020

are saying. They are all a bunch of liars.

It is a really bad idea to give a con man lots of exposure! It just risks more people getting conned.

Dem_in_Nebr.

(299 posts)
79. In some ways I kinda hope he doesn't . . .
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:44 PM
Sep 2020

I'd love to see him dragged the fuck out kicking and screaming in a strait jacket!!

Not 'arf vicious. am I

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