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Rachel In Full Meltdown Mode (Original Post) Me. Sep 2020 OP
Yeah, I see that. I wish she'd get John Dean on there. n/t cynatnite Sep 2020 #1
Yes, please, and elleng Sep 2020 #5
John Dean JUst Tweeted Me. Sep 2020 #6
That made my day and got me out of my sour mood. n/t cynatnite Sep 2020 #8
with good reason handmade34 Sep 2020 #2
She's Not Helping Me. Sep 2020 #3
I find information mzmolly Sep 2020 #11
INformation Yes, Of Course Be Prepared Me. Sep 2020 #12
Agreed 1000000000% BigDemVoter Sep 2020 #47
Another 10000% nt COLGATE4 Sep 2020 #56
So do I (need one of her cocktails.) elleng Sep 2020 #4
Honestly, I'm REally Annoyed Me. Sep 2020 #9
However, it's not 'hysteria,' elleng Sep 2020 #13
Gore Was A Gentleman About THat Election & Didn't Really Put Up A Fight Me. Sep 2020 #36
Right. elleng Sep 2020 #43
Hysteria is a word used against women. Nobody called Kavanaugh hysterical when he sobbed... Hekate Sep 2020 #49
How About Hair On Fire Me. Sep 2020 #51
Hair on Fire works Hekate Sep 2020 #52
... Me. Sep 2020 #53
Chris Hayes scared the shit out of me too when he just covered the same BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #7
As I Said Up Thread, This Is NOt Helpful Me. Sep 2020 #10
No, she and Chris Hayes are informing people about the possibilities BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #14
Thanks elleng Sep 2020 #15
I got furious when I watched Chris Hayes. BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #18
Clear your cache and cookies that should clear the paywall nt sweetloukillbot Sep 2020 #22
I don't know how to do that and have no one to show BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #34
Just use a different browser. tinrobot Sep 2020 #35
Oh, I can do that I think. BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #37
I just did it BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #55
Google how to do it on your device. Patterson Sep 2020 #39
I'll do that after I try to get it BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #42
No ONe Is Hiding Their Head In The Sand Me. Sep 2020 #19
I am doing more than voting! BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #21
Thank you bdamomma Sep 2020 #24
I'm with you. Tell me some things I can do. I will volunteer for the Biden campaign tomorrow. triron Sep 2020 #54
I am always looking for ways to act BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #57
How does that depress the vote? cwydro Sep 2020 #27
Cookies are not your friend Karma13612 Sep 2020 #32
Speculation is NOT information Rule of Claw Sep 2020 #16
29. n/t rzemanfl Sep 2020 #17
Thank You Me. Sep 2020 #20
I record Hayes and Rachel. Thinking moonscape Sep 2020 #23
I had to turn Rachel off tonight.. Rice4VP Sep 2020 #25
One of her cocktails? cwydro Sep 2020 #26
There Was A Time When She Used To Make Cocktails On Her Show Me. Sep 2020 #28
Oh, ok, sorry, I missed that. cwydro Sep 2020 #30
For a while she would end her show (I think the Friday night show) by making a cocktail. not_the_one Sep 2020 #33
Darn, I'm sorry I missed the cocktail shows! cwydro Sep 2020 #45
Like we did following the SCOTUS decision on Bush v. Gore in 2000? Wednesdays Sep 2020 #50
The article, And Rachel's coverage, ignore the power of the Dem govs. against GOP legislators nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #29
And The Fact THat There Are Way MOre Of Us THan THem Me. Sep 2020 #40
She's playing into Trump's tiny hands Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #31
THIS Me. Sep 2020 #38
Glad I stopped watch cable news budkin Sep 2020 #41
Wasn't Rachel's mantra "Watch what they DO - not what they SAY!", for a little while? bullwinkle428 Sep 2020 #44
Yes, You're Right Me. Sep 2020 #46
Is Barton Gelman UNinformed Or Trying To Make Trouble Me. Sep 2020 #48

Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. John Dean JUst Tweeted
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:38 PM
Sep 2020

If the election is undecided by noon on Jan 21st. Nancy Pelosi becomes acting president

Me.

(35,454 posts)
12. INformation Yes, Of Course Be Prepared
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:43 PM
Sep 2020

Biden has hired hundreds upon hundreds of the best lawyers in the country to be prepared. But flipping out like she is tonight is unprofessional to say the least.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
13. However, it's not 'hysteria,'
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:45 PM
Sep 2020

which is: 'an uncontrollable outburst of emotion or fear, often characterized by irrationality, laughter, weeping, etc. ... a psychoneurotic disorder characterized by violent emotional outbreaks, disturbances of sensory and motor functions, and various abnormal effects due to autosuggestion,'

it's analysis based on what the repugs are attempting.

At least, the Supremes said, about Bush v. Gore: 'Bush v. Gore notoriously announced that “[o]ur consideration is limited to the present circumstances,” a line which some legal academics likened to a ticket good for one day only, or a self-destruct mechanism: after the President was chosen, the case blew up.'

Me.

(35,454 posts)
36. Gore Was A Gentleman About THat Election & Didn't Really Put Up A Fight
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:13 PM
Sep 2020

He was concerned with keeping the integrity of the government intact. Kerry said he was in it until every vote was counted and then bowed out before they were. You won't see that happening this time around.

Hekate

(90,658 posts)
49. Hysteria is a word used against women. Nobody called Kavanaugh hysterical when he sobbed...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:16 PM
Sep 2020

...chewed the scenery, and generally made an ass of himself in the Senate. Yet the NY Times came close when it called his dignified female accuser “emotionally fragile.”

Once I had to turn Rachel off and walk away because my whole chest hurt and I was short of breath. But she was not wrong in her journalism, just intense, and I had hit my personal limit just then.



Me.

(35,454 posts)
51. How About Hair On Fire
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:24 PM
Sep 2020

though for a couple of minutes there she had worked herself up to such a point I thought she was going to scream.

I know how hysteria is used against women generally but frankly, I felt she was way over the top especially as the Gelman piece is uninformed and she fell right into it.

As for Kavanaugh, he was a disgrace and his entire performance was a sham but the cons really sold it.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
7. Chris Hayes scared the shit out of me too when he just covered the same
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:38 PM
Sep 2020

story in The Atlantic. I just hit my paywall too, damn it!

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
14. No, she and Chris Hayes are informing people about the possibilities
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:45 PM
Sep 2020

so that we can be prepared to stop them. This is necessary to fight them. The more info the better. Should we hide our heads in the sand and wish it were all a bad dream? Not me! I am fighting this shit!!!!! I am no pollyanna, I am a realist. I will not be whining, I will be fighting as an activist for our democracy. We all should.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
18. I got furious when I watched Chris Hayes.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:50 PM
Sep 2020

I hit my paywall with The Atlantic yesterday and can't afford to subscribe but I want the info. It is a very important, it is needed. We can't afford to downplay this possibility. He has broken the laws all his life and will continue to do so unless we stop him in any way possible.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
34. I don't know how to do that and have no one to show
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:07 PM
Sep 2020

me how to do anything with tech. It is very frustrating, I have to learn through trial and error and end up making everything worse.

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
35. Just use a different browser.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:10 PM
Sep 2020

If you normally use Chrome, open it in Firefox or Edge or whatever. That should give you another batch of freebies.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
37. Oh, I can do that I think.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:14 PM
Sep 2020

I am on my tablet and will try it. I tried sending it to my gmail to open there but that didn't work. I will do what you suggest. Thanks!

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
42. I'll do that after I try to get it
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:19 PM
Sep 2020

via a different browser. I am a visual learner so if there is a You Tube video, that would help. It took me forever to figure out how to use a thumb drive and even a zillion videos didn't help.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
19. No ONe Is Hiding Their Head In The Sand
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:50 PM
Sep 2020

but yelling fire at this point has no benefit. Adam Schiff has just said the Biden campaign and Congress is doing everything they can to prepare and the only outcome is a landslide, so vote.

bdamomma

(63,840 posts)
24. Thank you
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:54 PM
Sep 2020

BigmanPigman, I will not do this NEVER.

This is OUR COUNTRY. No con/thug will take control. All those who fought for our freedoms we need to honor them.

We need to FIGHT.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
57. I am always looking for ways to act
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:55 PM
Sep 2020

and I don't use social media to get up to date info but I belong to Indivisible. Here is their link below. They DO plan and they are organized. I also get emails from different groups through Act Blue (I have Act Blue via DailyKOS). Anyone can get Act Blue info. Donate $5 and that is a good start.

https://secure.actblue.com/donate/gotv2020

Action Network sends me the info...here is their link...

https://actionnetwork.org/

https://indivisible.actionkit.com/mailings/view/66344?t=27&akid=66344%2E232934%2ESmUQi8

Here is Vote Forward from Act Blue

https://votefwd.org/dailykos?link_id=3&can_id=bfcadfa948ac07d9bf5b1038644acae5&source=email-can-we-write-one-million-letters-in-one-week-vote-forward-challenge-4&email_referrer=email_932961&email_subject=can-we-write-one-million-letters-in-one-week-vote-forward-challenge

 

Rule of Claw

(500 posts)
16. Speculation is NOT information
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:47 PM
Sep 2020

This level of improbability for this to work is something like running the table against Jeanette Lee without the break and using a plunger.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
23. I record Hayes and Rachel. Thinking
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:54 PM
Sep 2020

I’ll skip them tonight and just keep writing my GOTV letters.

Any more fear and I’ll turn into a puddle. Besides, saw the Atlantic piece already and am on my 2nd glass of pinot noir.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
25. I had to turn Rachel off tonight..
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:54 PM
Sep 2020

why is she perpetuating this foolishness about Trump and electors? I expect this insanity from Don Lemon, but not from her.

Just encourage people to vote, WTH cares about Trump’s latest distraction?

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
33. For a while she would end her show (I think the Friday night show) by making a cocktail.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:07 PM
Sep 2020

A different cocktail each time. It was a fun, lighthearted end to her show, which (at the time) may have been depressing. She hasn't done it in several years.

NOW every night is depressing.

I didn't watch the show tonight, but can rewind if I want. But if it was about the possibility of republican elector ratfuckery, THEY WILL DO IT IF THEY THINK THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT.

We just have to be ready to NOT ACCEPT IT.

They can cheat his way into a second term, but if 60% or more refuse to accept their pathetic, corrupt manipulations, there is not a DAMN thing they can do to make us.

We will FINALLY hit the streets. We will FINALLY have a general strike. We. Will. Bring. This. Country. To. A. Standstill.

And there isn't a damn thing they can do to stop us.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
45. Darn, I'm sorry I missed the cocktail shows!
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:23 PM
Sep 2020

I only caught part of her show tonight.

Can't deal with this latest scenario right now.

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
31. She's playing into Trump's tiny hands
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:03 PM
Sep 2020

He's a con man and a liar. This is a lie he wants people to believe so we are afraid of him and discouraged from voting. Meanwhile, Republicans are laughing at us for falling for the same old trolls. People need to stop listening to Trump. He is a master bullshitter but that's it. He's not a dictator or a strongman. He isnt going to steal the election or refuse to leave the white house. It's a bluff. He has no power or ability to pull off any of that shit. For the love of god, stop believing what he says!

Me.

(35,454 posts)
48. Is Barton Gelman UNinformed Or Trying To Make Trouble
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:45 PM
Sep 2020

The issues regarding electors came up before the SC not too long ago and this is what they decided.

"And second, the Court’s decision reinforces the validity of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. Under National Popular Vote, states that combine for at least 270 electoral votes agree to award their electors to the presidential candidate who wins the most individual votes across the nation. (Fifteen states and the District of Columbia, totaling 196 electoral votes, have already passed the measure.)

In the 18 states currently without faithless elector laws, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would operate in a manner identical to the system that they have been using for over 200 years. In these states (which currently use the state-by-state winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes), the presidential electors are chosen by the political party whose presidential candidate receives the most popular votes inside the state, and there are no additional requirements placed upon the elector"

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