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Nevilledog

(50,986 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 11:53 PM Sep 2020

The scam behind the $200 drug gift certificates




https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/24/seniors-200-gift-certificates-prescription-drug/

ASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday pledged to send $200 prescription drug coupons to 33 million Medicare beneficiaries “in the coming weeks,” a political ploy to curry favor with seniors who view drug prices as a priority.

Trump’s promise comes less than six weeks before Election Day, and represents the latest step in his administration’s (and his campaign’s) efforts to amass health care talking points, even if their actions do little to save Americans money.

The administration is getting its authority to ship the coupons from a Medicare demonstration program, a White House spokesman told STAT in a statement. The nearly $7 billion required to send the coupons, he said, would come from savings from Trump’s “most favored nations” drug pricing proposal. That regulation has also not yet been implemented — meaning the Trump administration is effectively pledging to spend $6.6 billion in savings that do not currently exist. The cards, he said, would be “actual discount cards for prescription drug copays.”

Trump also bragged about a new regulation allowing states and pharmacies to import prescription drugs from Canada. While the administration did publish a Food and Drug Administration regulation on importation Thursday, states would still need to apply to participate and then would have to set up new programs to actually begin importing drugs.

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The scam behind the $200 drug gift certificates (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2020 OP
Carnival barker. soothsayer Sep 2020 #1
shell game nt Grasswire2 Sep 2020 #8
Donate zebrapa Sep 2020 #2
+1. nt. Dem2theMax Sep 2020 #3
I heard its not money marlakay Sep 2020 #5
Oh, dear lord. That is even worse than an actual deficit raising $200. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #7
Same here my hubby only one on medicare marlakay Sep 2020 #9
I will pat myself on the back and PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #10
Really nice marlakay Sep 2020 #12
Good for you. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #13
Buying votes with national debt. keithbvadu2 Sep 2020 #4
A shell game w no pea JDC Sep 2020 #6
The new regime... orwell Sep 2020 #11
Can he just give out billions without the House approviing the expense? TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #14
From article in the OP: Tanuki Sep 2020 #15
Thanks. As you can tell, I didn't drill down into it. TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #18
Trump business model. Solly Mack Sep 2020 #16
Perfect description. Nevilledog Sep 2020 #19
He seems to be giving away lots of money Sunsky Sep 2020 #17
Discount cards?? ecstatic Sep 2020 #20
Another lame ass attempt to buy the election Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2020 #21

marlakay

(11,424 posts)
5. I heard its not money
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 12:08 AM
Sep 2020

Just a discount voucher on some medicines. Which is bullshit another scam hopefully people will realize is fake. Biden needs to call him out on it at the debates where older Americans who watch can know the truth. And add that voting for him is ending SS and medicare.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,811 posts)
7. Oh, dear lord. That is even worse than an actual deficit raising $200.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 12:19 AM
Sep 2020

I don't happen to take any prescription meds, myself. I wonder if I could just mail my card, assuming we actually get them, to a friend of mine who does take several medications.

And even though I know that plenty of seniors out there are terribly strapped for the cash to pay for their medicine, I honestly hope this doesn't happen.

marlakay

(11,424 posts)
9. Same here my hubby only one on medicare
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 12:23 AM
Sep 2020

Pays about $10 every 3 months for the one drug he takes. Same for me but I am not on medicare till next summer.

We have pretty good insurance and medicare supplemental.

If they do send it out I would try to give away also.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,811 posts)
10. I will pat myself on the back and
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 12:32 AM
Sep 2020

say that I gave away the $1200 stimulus money I got back in, whenever the first round of deposits went out. I gave half to a local homeless shelter (where I volunteer) and the other half to a local food bank. It felt so incredibly good to do so. Yeah, I could have kept the money and spent it on myself, but I'm doing just fine and was happy to give it away.

marlakay

(11,424 posts)
12. Really nice
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:21 AM
Sep 2020

We have been helping local businesses because of major fires a few weeks ago. I live in southern oregon.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,811 posts)
13. Good for you.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:49 AM
Sep 2020

I'm in New Mexico, no fires here. But no matter where we live there are local things that need money.

orwell

(7,765 posts)
11. The new regime...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 01:51 AM
Sep 2020

...stop all real bills in the Senate.

Rule by dictat from the White house.

Control the courts to give it that nice legal polish.

Sounds like a banana republic to me...

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
15. From article in the OP:
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:47 AM
Sep 2020
https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/24/seniors-200-gift-certificates-prescription-drug/

"It is unclear whether Trump’s promises on $200 credits for prescription drug coupons will come to fruition. Under the Constitution, it is Congress, not the White House, that is empowered to spend taxpayer money, and it is unclear where the roughly $6.6 billion for the program would come from. The idea has never been formally proposed or sketched out by health officials, though the New York Times reported this week that Trump officials had tried to convince the pharmaceutical industry to pay for similar cards worth $100. The drug industry refused.

A spokesperson for PhRMA, the drug industry trade group, said that “one-time savings cards will neither provide lasting help, nor advance the fundamental reforms necessary to help seniors better afford their medicines.”

Trump’s remarks followed a similarly puzzling press briefing orchestrated by two top administration health advisers. During a Thursday afternoon call with reporters, the administration teased a “historic” health care plan likely to kickstart “the most consequential health care reform in American history.”

The actual policies they announced, however, are simple, superficial, and non-binding executive orders. Neither will improve the quality of Americans’ health care or lower its cost."...(more)



Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
17. He seems to be giving away lots of money
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 06:17 AM
Sep 2020

(or announce that he is) right before the election. Hmm. This man is outrightly trying to buy votes with our money. Desperate moves from a desperate man.

ecstatic

(32,641 posts)
20. Discount cards??
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:37 AM
Sep 2020

He's betting they won't attempt to use the cards before election day. He's such a con artist!

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