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NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:43 AM Sep 2020

These People

It’s the stupidity – people who still insist that Covid-19 is a ‘hoax’ perpetrated to make Trump look bad, but can’t explain how the entire world agreed to be ‘in on it’, and what happened to the hundreds of thousands of people who have disappeared off the planet.

It’s the ignorance – people who are still complaining about Obama’s handling of 9-11 and Katrina, despite the fact that he wasn’t in office until years after those events.

It’s the blind devotion – people who keep telling us how much good Trump has done for the country, but can’t name a single accomplishment he’s allegedly achieved.

It’s the cultish behaviour – people who worship a man for no other reason than that they believe he is who he claims to be, instead of who he has shown himself to be.

But more than anything else, it’s the raw, seething hatred that literally oozes out of these people’s pores. It is the constant outpouring of rage towards anyone and everyone, based on race, religion, ethnicity, or sexual orientation. It’s the bullying cop, the armed-to-the-teeth grocery shopper, the Karens & Kens who wreck store displays of masks, and call 911 on black neighbours who have the audacity to live next door.

This is why we can’t embrace Republicans – because the only thing they embrace is their anger, their put-upon feelings, their need to feel that people they don’t like or agree with politically are going to get something only they are somehow entitled to have.

It’s the pure, unadulterated outrage that these people spew 24/7, on every occasion and at every event, that makes one ask the obvious question: If Trump has made their lives better, why are they so angry? Why do they act like there’s only so much food at the table, and their only recourse is to fight their fellow citizens over whatever scraps they can grab?

You’d think racists would be happy, anti-Semites would be overjoyed, and homophobes would be ecstatic to have a “pResident” who thinks like they do, and acts accordingly. And yet they are so overwhelmingly consumed with some inexplicable outrage, they feel compelled to demonstrate it at every opportunity.

If Trump-humpers believe he’s doing and saying everything they want to see and hear, why are they so dissatisfied with everything? Why are they so enraged? Why are they not sitting home, enjoying what their “pResident” has done for them? Why are they not dancing in the streets, celebrating how vastly improved their lives have become thanks to their ‘chosen-by-God’ leader?

The answer is, of course, obvious: these people are not happy. They are not out spending that “big middle-class tax break” they were promised – the one that benefited the top 1% and left them with crumbs. They are not seeing their lives improved in any way, they are not seeing the promised healthcare plan that is more affordable than Obamacare, they are not seeing their roads and bridges being repaired and renewed, they are not seeing their children’s schools being sufficiently funded, they are not seeing their air and water being protected – and they are most certainly not seeing Mexico paying for a wall.

The truth is that Trump-humpers are angry at Trump – at his incompetence, his lack of leadership, and the lengthy list of promises not kept. So they’re doing what he does – they’re blaming everyone else for his failures by lashing out.

Citizens who are actually satisfied with their “pResident’s” performance in office aren’t perpetually pissed-off. And it really is as simple as that.

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rampartc

(5,404 posts)
1. one of your best posts, nance.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 06:34 AM
Sep 2020

maybe if i believed that all democrats were pedophiles who ate human babies and that trump (of all people) was chosen by god to bring us to justice (any day now) i could think like that.

the q nuts might be the worst of them, but try one of their other conspiracies .........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

our evil agenda, according to trump's proposed "1776 project"

Codification of hate crimes
Causing constant social changes to provoke confusion
Teaching children sex and homosexuality
Weakening the authority of schools and teachers
Mass immigration to destroy national identity
Promoting alcoholism
Reducing church attendance
Weakening the legal system and causing it to be biased against crime victims
Making people dependent on the state or welfare
Controlling the media
Encouraging family breakdown

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
2. let's see
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 06:52 AM
Sep 2020
Codification of hate crimesyes
Causing constant social changes to provoke confusion no
Teaching children sex and homosexuality not in the way they're thinking, but yes
Weakening the authority of schools and teachers yes, in certain circumstances
Mass immigration to destroy national identity not to destroy, but add to
Promoting alcoholism no
Reducing church attendance meh
Weakening the legal system and causing it to be biased against crime victims hell no
Making people dependent on the state or welfare hell mo
Controlling the media promoting media diversity through judicious regulation
Encouraging family breakdownhell no


that's me the conspirital librul

rampartc

(5,404 posts)
4. it is difficult to do a point by point analysis of right wing conspiracy
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 07:09 AM
Sep 2020

their terms seldom mean what they appear to mean, and are always loaded with disinformation and misdirection.

"making people dependent" for example, goes down the ratholes of

https://www.conservapedia.com/Democratic_plantation

"cloward piven strategy"

and "alinsky rules"

all gloriously twisted, misquoted, and interspersed with things that lenin, mao, and lbj never said.

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
6. Reducing church attendance ---
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 07:21 AM
Sep 2020

I can get behind that one.

Religion causes more human and animal (sacrifice) harm than other forms of greed or fear.

rampartc

(5,404 posts)
8. the churches are doing a great job of reducing their own attendance
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 07:27 AM
Sep 2020

but i suppose if you can believe that the marxist democrats' and chinese commies conspired to create the coronavirus .......

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
7. Limbaugh is one big, fat liar. HE PROMISED US
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 07:22 AM
Sep 2020

he would quickly be assuming room temperature and that was months ago.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
3. it starts at the local republican radio station, which in most places would probably have to
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 06:57 AM
Sep 2020

broadcast something else if the advertisers as well as universities and pro sports teams that broadcast on them were asked publicly if they agree with the lies, ignorance, hate and pro putin propaganda being repeated from those hundreds of stations 15 hrs a day

unfortunately progressive/liberal and media leadership generally live in cities and never learned that 'it's the radio stupid' would be a good strategy to start considering before one of these elections.....

a good start would be for biden to preface some or even just one of his responses to trump with "well that's what limbaugh keeps saying but....." - it would be true for much of what trump says and does and reflects his positions on just about everything, whether it came from a putin think tank or a GOP think tank through limbaugh's ass first or was repeatedly repeated excused and rationalized on talk radio for weeks after trump said it

any collective publicized questioning of the irresponsibility of thousands of businesses and hundreds of sports teams supporting trump/putin talk radio as we go into this election and the expected bulllshit trump will pull would cause an exodus of that support, along with the uncertainty around limbaugh's future would force the advertising industry to signal to many stations they have to change programing

Aussie105

(5,383 posts)
9. For 'These People'
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 07:38 AM
Sep 2020

it doesn't need to make any sense beyond 'Trump is Right, and everyone else is Wrong.'

It reinforces their internal value of self worth, it justifies what they have done, are doing, and will do.
It gives them a warm feeling of Knowing what the World is All About.

No, it doesn't make sense. All I can suggest that when a lot of people were assembled in the People Factory prior to birth, the assembly line person forgot to unwrap the brain, or didn't plug it in right.
That's the theory I work on, anyway. Waste of a perfectly good brain, though.

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
10. It's their hate and anger I'm concerned about after Nov 3rd
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 07:48 AM
Sep 2020

What is their leader they blindly follow going to tell them to do knowing he's going to prison
and probably losing all his properties, let alone being totally embarrassed in front of the entire
world? He doesn't like being embarrassed, will he do something awful to unleash their hate
and anger?

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
12. They simply do not have the intellectual toolset to deal with the 21st Century world
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:22 AM
Sep 2020

So they lash out in anger and frustration - just like a 4 year old.

This is the fault of our decimated Public Education system.
This is the result of 2+ generations of Home 'Schooling' by totally unqualified parents.
This is the result of blindly following Evangelical Religious Leaders who are ignorant themselves, and are con men out for a quick buck.
This is the result of normal folks who simply do not have time to engage in critical thinking about events because they are exhausted after working 2 or 3 jobs and raising a family at the same time.

This all is a result of 60 years of hateful 'Movement Conservatives' led by the Koch Brothers and other racist, uncaring, ruthless and quite frankly criminal billionaires.

They hated the protests of the 1960's, felt that middleclass youth had too much time on their hands, so set about changing the system to crush the Middle Class in it's entirety, and make good compliant serfs.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. I wish I could recommend this a million times.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 12:39 PM
Sep 2020

What you have described here is the most frightening thing about them. Right now, everything is going their way. They have their racist, sexist, liberal-hating, rude, vicious president. They are seeing the people they can't stand being demonized and harmed by Trump and the right-wing forces in this country. They are participating in a wave of right-wing nationalism that seems to be sweeping the nation, and yet they still are angrier than ever.

They are still so aggrieved and bitter, even though everything seems to be going their way. I don't understand it. Actually, in a way I do after reading your post. I don't think things are really going their way because they never really understood what was making them so angry in the first place.

They blamed their anger on the usual scapegoats - minorities, immigrants, gay people, women, liberals, etc. But what they never understood is that it was the right-wing "elites" and the 1% who were keeping them down all along and continue to do so. They still don't understand why harming these despised groups isn't making their lives any better and they are frustrated by that. It doesn't occur to them why destroying their so-called "enemies" isn't suddenly making them happy, powerful and prosperous. They don't get it.

It's really sad that they are too stupid and filled with hatred to understand the real cause of their grief. Unfortunately, I don't think most of these people are going to have an epiphany any time soon.

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