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dware

(12,369 posts)
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:25 AM Sep 2020

White supremacist killed in shootout with California deputies, sheriff says

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/white-supremacist-killed-in-shootout-with-california-deputies-sheriff-says/ar-BB19raeq?li=BBnb7Kz

A white supremacist was killed in a shootout with deputies in Templeton, California, according to a San Luis Obispo Sheriff's Office news release Friday.

Christopher Michael Straub ran away from and shot at California deputies before he was fatally shot on Thursday, September 24, 2020.© San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's/San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Christopher Michael Straub ran away from and shot at California deputies before he was fatally shot on Thursday, September 24, 2020.
The shooting took place Thursday morning when deputies at first tried to conduct a traffic stop on Christopher Michael Straub, 38, near a cemetery. Straub got out of his vehicle and ran through the vineyards of the cemetery, the release said.

He then hid and ambushed deputies, firing multiple rounds at them with a handgun. Deputy Richard "Ted" Lehnhoff, 34, was hit in the leg and airlifted to a local hospital, where he underwent surgery and is in stable condition, the release said.

Straub continued evading deputies and attempted to return to his vehicle through the vineyard, but additional deputies arrived on scene and intercepted him as he tried to regain access to his vehicle
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Good fucking riddance to POS rubbish.

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White supremacist killed in shootout with California deputies, sheriff says (Original Post) dware Sep 2020 OP
Their next hero. mucifer Sep 2020 #1
I was just about ready to post the same article packman Sep 2020 #2
That is some scary shit, dware Sep 2020 #4
by some counts there are over llashram Sep 2020 #5
And those are just the ones that are known about, dware Sep 2020 #8
exactly llashram Sep 2020 #9
Well more than that, unfortunately Celerity Sep 2020 #16
I'm sure you are right llashram Sep 2020 #17
The Con's goons are the Aryan Brotherhood malaise Sep 2020 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2020 #30
One down, 1.000.000 to go... 634-5789 Sep 2020 #3
For every... Newest Reality Sep 2020 #7
That's a scary thought. smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #27
Me too. Newest Reality Sep 2020 #29
Wow PatSeg Sep 2020 #10
I'm expecting retaliation from his bros against the cops who shot him, dware Sep 2020 #11
That dawned on me as well PatSeg Sep 2020 #14
Exactly. dware Sep 2020 #15
I hope so PatSeg Sep 2020 #22
And, dollars to donuts, dware Sep 2020 #23
Ah yes, that's a good point PatSeg Sep 2020 #32
San Luis Obispo is a lovely county. pfitz59 Sep 2020 #12
My truck driving travels have taken me through San Luis Obispo county many, many dware Sep 2020 #13
good bye bye llashram Sep 2020 #18
White Supremacist prison gangs are a whole other level of evil DBoon Sep 2020 #19
PINO Likely Didn't Notice... ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #36
Cops identifying their shooting victim as a member of a white supremacist group is a way to deflect WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #20
Why would it deflect interest in investigating this shooting? dware Sep 2020 #21
People might, *might*, march and protest the extrajudicial state killing of a white dirtbag felon. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #24
Ok, I get what you're saying, dware Sep 2020 #25
Police investigating themselves is a joke no matter who they shoot. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #26
I think in this case, this is a well justified homicide, dware Sep 2020 #28
Provocative take, but worth sharing. Devil Child Sep 2020 #31
It's a vigorous exercise, as someone who wants to abolish the police, to think about this killing WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #33
In the car: muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #35
You reap what you sow Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2020 #34
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
2. I was just about ready to post the same article
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:34 AM
Sep 2020

What got me was:

"Authorities searched Straub's residence, where they discovered he was illegally manufacturing weapons parts.
"Straub was a wanted felon and it is illegal for felons to possess any weapons," the sheriff's office said.
The sheriff's office said Straub was a known member of a white supremacist gang and the Sheriff's Gang Task Force was already conducting an investigation before Thursday's shooting.

Straub "had a significant criminal history having been booked 28 times into jails all across California including two incarcerations in state prison,"

And the weapons found IN HIS CAR (Boggles what other weapons he was hiding)

dware

(12,369 posts)
4. That is some scary shit,
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:40 AM
Sep 2020

any competent person with a milling machine, lathe, 3D printer, etc, can manufacture a firearm in their garage that is untraceable,

Celerity

(43,330 posts)
16. Well more than that, unfortunately
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 11:11 AM
Sep 2020

Probably close to 450 million now

This is from almost 4 years ago:

393,347,000

Ranking by country for civilian-held firearms per 100 population. Small Arms Survey 2017.
Country (or dependent territory, subnational area, etc.) Estimate of firearms in civilian possession
1 United States 393,347,000

I have seen estimates as high as 600 million

Response to malaise (Reply #6)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
27. That's a scary thought.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 12:13 PM
Sep 2020

I know it's true, which is why it's so frightening. There are way too many of these people out there just hiding in plain sight. I am really worried about what life will be like when the pendulum starts swinging the other way.

PatSeg

(47,415 posts)
10. Wow
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:53 AM
Sep 2020

Cops shot and killed a man who was actually armed and dangerous. A real instance of where they could justifiably claim they feared for their life.

This is a case where no reasonable person could find fault with their actions.

dware

(12,369 posts)
11. I'm expecting retaliation from his bros against the cops who shot him,
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:57 AM
Sep 2020

that's how these POS roll.

PatSeg

(47,415 posts)
14. That dawned on me as well
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 11:05 AM
Sep 2020

Most militia types don't like law enforcement anyway. Pretty much everyone is an enemy to their freedom to do whatever they want.

dware

(12,369 posts)
15. Exactly.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 11:07 AM
Sep 2020

After Joe Biden takes office, he should direct his DOJ to designate these militia groups as domestic terrorist org. and arrest and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.

PatSeg

(47,415 posts)
22. I hope so
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 11:33 AM
Sep 2020

These monsters have gotten away with so much for so long, it is time they got put in their place, which in most cases is probably prison.

dware

(12,369 posts)
23. And, dollars to donuts,
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 11:40 AM
Sep 2020

probably the majority of them are convicted felons who have no right even holding a firearm, much less own one, another violation of the law that can be used against those that are found in possession of a firearm.

https://www.richardhornsby.com/federal/crimes/felon-in-possession-of-firearm.html#:~:text=Penalties%20for%20Felon%20in%20Possession%20of%20a%20Firearm.,Guidelines%2C%20a%20person%20convicted%20of%20Felon%20in%20Possession

Penalties for Felon in Possession of a Firearm
Under federal law, the crime of Felon in Possession of a Firearm is a Class D felony, punishable by up to ten years in prison, three years of supervised release, and $250,000 in fines.

Under the United States Sentencing Guidelines, a person convicted of Felon in Possession of a Firearm would be assigned a base offense level between 12-26, which carries a guideline range of 10-78 months in prison before taking into account any mitigating or aggravating circumstances.

As of 2016, the average federal sentence imposed for Felon in Possession of a Firearm fell between 46-75 months in prison.


Lots of good info on the Federal law concerning Felon in possession of a firearm at this site.

PatSeg

(47,415 posts)
32. Ah yes, that's a good point
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 02:35 PM
Sep 2020

These fools didn't all of a sudden crawl out from under a rock. Most of them already have a history and a police record.

pfitz59

(10,360 posts)
12. San Luis Obispo is a lovely county.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 11:02 AM
Sep 2020

Vineyards, olive groves, cattle ranches and stunning seaside vistas. Shame to see such violence reach this bucolic, serene place.

dware

(12,369 posts)
13. My truck driving travels have taken me through San Luis Obispo county many, many
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 11:04 AM
Sep 2020

times, it is quite lovely and charming.

DBoon

(22,357 posts)
19. White Supremacist prison gangs are a whole other level of evil
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 11:16 AM
Sep 2020

These aren't your camo-dude poseurs

They will kill without a second thought

My nightmare is a political group manages to harness them. Trump is already bragging about his biker gang support.

ProfessorGAC

(65,001 posts)
36. PINO Likely Didn't Notice...
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:37 AM
Sep 2020

...the 3 big biker parades for Biden yesterday.
CA, OH, & VA all had big biker gatherings for Biden yesterday.
There's one planned in Illinois for today.
PINO doesn't have all the bikers.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
20. Cops identifying their shooting victim as a member of a white supremacist group is a way to deflect
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 11:29 AM
Sep 2020

interest in investigating this shooting. Change my mind.

dware

(12,369 posts)
21. Why would it deflect interest in investigating this shooting?
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 11:32 AM
Sep 2020

That doesn't even make any sense.
Convince me.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
24. People might, *might*, march and protest the extrajudicial state killing of a white dirtbag felon.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 11:54 AM
Sep 2020

A white supremacist? Prooooobably not.

dware

(12,369 posts)
25. Ok, I get what you're saying,
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 12:07 PM
Sep 2020

but there will still be an investigation by the police and DA's shooting team.

Bottom line is that there is one less domestic terrorist in the country, which, IMO, is a grand thing.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
26. Police investigating themselves is a joke no matter who they shoot.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 12:10 PM
Sep 2020

Cops lie all the time, and people have to be especially careful when the lie is one they want to hear.

dware

(12,369 posts)
28. I think in this case, this is a well justified homicide,
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 12:15 PM
Sep 2020

this guy was well known to LE, he had a long record, including 2 stints in a state prison, he shot at police, the amount of firearms/ammo found in his vehicle indicates that he was up to no good, he was manufacturing firearm parts at his home, probably to sell to his white supremacist friends.

I'm not going to lose any sleep over this POS's demise.

Most DA shooting teams are pretty competent, they know what to look for.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
31. Provocative take, but worth sharing.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 01:05 PM
Sep 2020

Controlling the narrative is critical, so no I don’t think I’ll attempt changing your mind.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
33. It's a vigorous exercise, as someone who wants to abolish the police, to think about this killing
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 03:03 PM
Sep 2020

and what the cops are saying about it.

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