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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:30 PM Sep 2020

Bill Kristol shares email from former Chief Justice of the Florida Supreme Court, Charles T. Wells.

TLDR: judge sez vote for Biden and vote early to get the hell rid of drumpf


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Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
1. I was among those who received an e-mail this morning from the former Chief Justice of the Florida Supreme Court, Charles T. Wells. I asked Justice Wells for permission to quote from his e-mail, and he agreed. I do so in this thread.


Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
·
Sep 26, 2020
Replying to @BillKristol
2. Background: Justice Wells was appointed by Democratic Governor Lawton Chiles to the Florida Supreme Court in 1994, and served until he retired in 2009. He served as Chief Justice from July 1, 2000, until June 30, 2002, and presided over the appeals in Bush v. Gore in 2000.

Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
3. Here are excerpts from his e-mail to friends:
"I have never in the past written a letter or email to you about a preference in an election. I do so now with hesitancy because I know that you have concerns and interests which differ from mine

Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
·
Sep 26, 2020
Replying to @BillKristol
4. "However, I set out my thoughts here because I am compelled to believe that our Country, and thus our children and grandchildren, face a grave threat to keeping the kind of representative democracy that we have experienced in our life.

Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
5. "I do not believe that we have had as serious a threat during our lives.
I have worked hard at separating my thoughts about this from partisanship. As you know I had a unique experience in 2000. In that experience I had to separate my decision from partisanship.


Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
·
Sep 26, 2020
Replying to @BillKristol
6. "I was appointed to the Florida Supreme Court by a Democrat, but in Bush v Gore my objective analysis of the legal issues required me to write a dissenting opinion which...was cited in the majority and C.J. Rehnquist’s concurring opinion which decided the case.

Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
7. "From my work in Bush v Gore I learned a great deal about the laws that control the election of the President. The law in respect to 'contested' elections is very confusing, outdated and fragile.


Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
·
Sep 26, 2020
Replying to @BillKristol
8. "I will not get into the details here. Suffice it though to say that President Trump’s threat to not accept the outcome of the election is a grave and real threat to our democracy.

Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
9. "I have other reasons that I will not vote for Trump...But, those are not the reason I write to you. The reason I write is because the threat to this Country’s democracy is in my judgment grave and real.


Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
·
Sep 26, 2020
Replying to @BillKristol
10. "The only way that I can see that this threat can be eliminated is to vote for Biden. It will not be enough to just not vote for Trump. Any basis for a contested election can only really be eliminated by the election not being close.

Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
11. "Again this year as in 2000 Florida will be a key and likely decisive state. I urge you to vote early and if by mail ensure that your vote gets to the Supervisor of Elections in your county.
Thank you for allowing me to share my thoughts."
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Bill Kristol shares email from former Chief Justice of the Florida Supreme Court, Charles T. Wells. (Original Post) soothsayer Sep 2020 OP
Fantastic letter! Also scary. octoberlib Sep 2020 #1
It truly is a fantastic letter. Scary only if we don't heed the advice and be sure to vote. NoRoadUntravelled Sep 2020 #2
Thank you, Justice Wells. Sogo Sep 2020 #3
Very scary hearing his moonscape Sep 2020 #4
Kick dalton99a Sep 2020 #5
Wow! I got chills In It to Win It Sep 2020 #6
What is novel about a Democratic ex-judge voting for Biden? Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #7
I think he's saying FL election laws are screwy so don't take any chances soothsayer Sep 2020 #9
saying the law concerning "contested elections" is murky stopdiggin Sep 2020 #10
The most important part is the warning about Florida. Russia compromised Florida ancianita Sep 2020 #8
Well, there goes getting a few good hours of sleep tonight. Vinca Sep 2020 #11

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
2. It truly is a fantastic letter. Scary only if we don't heed the advice and be sure to vote.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:36 PM
Sep 2020

A landslide victory is what's needed. It's going to be so wonderful when that happens!

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
4. Very scary hearing his
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 06:07 PM
Sep 2020

perspective, re “ ...law in respect to 'contested' elections is very confusing, outdated and fragile.”

Back to writing another big batch of Vote Forward letters. That has been my best distraction.

Baitball Blogger

(46,682 posts)
7. What is novel about a Democratic ex-judge voting for Biden?
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 06:16 PM
Sep 2020

I can't swear to it, but back when I was looking at the connections between real estate and conflicts of interest, Well's name or law firm kept coming up. Always left a bad taste in my mouth.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
10. saying the law concerning "contested elections" is murky
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 02:34 PM
Sep 2020

in ALL jurisdictions.
(I'm not sure if I agree -- but that is his opinion. And he confronted a real life situation from the bench in FL)

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
8. The most important part is the warning about Florida. Russia compromised Florida
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 06:34 PM
Sep 2020

along with six other states.

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
11. Well, there goes getting a few good hours of sleep tonight.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 03:29 PM
Sep 2020

It's terrifying to hear some of the people coming out now. I don't know how many times my husband has said he's glad we're not young.

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