This should be called the Sarandon Court

[DemocratSinceBirth]

[cwydro]

1. I hope someone tweets that to her.

Well said.

[Eid Ma Clack Shaw]

3. Doubt she'd care because

this is what she wanted. Awful person.

[Boogiemack]

34. Ask her if the "Revelotuin" came fast enough for her? nt

[TheBlackAdder]

40. She craves attention, any attention--whether positive or negative, as long as she's in the news.

[JonLP24]

2. She was a Green Party voter that lives in California or lived in New York

She recently sold a home in NYC.

I blame Obama-Trump voters more.

A new study reveals the real reason Obama voters switched to Trump
Hint: It has to do with race.

One of the most puzzling elements of the 2016 election, at least for a lot of Americans, was the millions of voters who switched from voting for Barack Obama in 2012 to Donald Trump in 2016. Somewhere between 6.7 million and 9.2 million Americans switched this way; given that the 2016 election was decided by 40,000 votes, it’s fair to say that Obama-Trump switchers were one of the key reasons that Hillary Clinton lost.

(Snip)

“Clinton suffered her biggest losses in the places where Obama was strongest among white voters. It’s not a simple racism story,” the New York Times’s Nate Cohn wrote on the night of the election. This typically segues into an argument that Trump won by tapping into economic, rather than racial, anxiety — anger about trade and the decline of manufacturing, or the fallout from the 2008 Great Recession.

A new study shows that this response isn’t as powerful as it may seem. The study, from three political scientists from around the country, takes a statistical look at a large sample of Obama-Trump switchers. It finds that these voters tended to score highly on measures of racial hostility and xenophobia — and were not especially likely to be suffering economically.

“White voters with racially conservative or anti-immigrant attitudes switched votes to Trump at a higher rate than those with more liberal views on these issues,” the paper’s authors write. “We find little evidence that economic dislocation and marginality were significantly related to vote switching in 2016.”

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/10/16/17980820/trump-obama-2016-race-racism-class-economy-2018-midterm

[Cha]

5. I Blame the Fucking LIES of Sarandon & Stein. they have trump BLOOD

on their hands.. & their enablers.

[JonLP24]

7. They are not much of factor compared to millions of xenophobic/racist/sexist Trump voters

Who previously supported Obama.

Where were the Never Trumpers in 2016? They hated Hillary for years so not impressed that they are behind Biden.

[StarfishSaver]

10. I don't believe that number is as high as people think

I think a lot of Trump voters lied about having voted for Obama in the past.

[Mariana]

22. You're probably right. They lie about everything else, so why not? nt.

[Cha]

11. Yes They Are! In the Swing States. Stein got More

Votes than trump beat Hillary.

BECAUSE OF STEIN'S LIES & Stupid ASS Susan Sarandon jabbering away that "Hillary Was MORE DANERGOUS than Fucking trump".

[Tom Rinaldo]

14. There have been Green Party voters in every election since 1996

Some of them are essentially true believer Green Party voters just like there are true believer Libertarian voters who vote for that Party in every election rather than the Republicans. Having said that, the Greens did much better in 2016 than they did in 2012. Stein won 469,627 votes nationally in 2012 vs 1,457,216 in 2016. Former six term Democratic Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, the first African American elected to represent Georgia in the House, won fewer than 200,000 votes in 2008 running against Obama. The Greens peaked in 2000 with Nader as their candidate when he won 2,882,955 votes.

I would be mildly curious about how well Stein did in those three battleground Midwestern states in 2016 vs in 2012 relative to the margin of Trump's wins. Not every Green Party vote in 2016 can be blamed on anti-Hillary propaganda, though clearly a great many can be.

[Cha]

15. Jill Stein is now officially the Ralph Nader of 2016.. Goes for Sarandon, too

Link to tweet

[StevieM]

24. Gary Johnson also took more votes from Clinton than from Trump.

Not that I blame either of them. In the end, as I wrote below, James Comey was more important than all other factors put together. His actions were illegitimate and constituted an unprecedented assault on our democracy.

[Cha]

28. I blame Stein's & Saradon's Damn LIES

[StevieM]

30. I blame James Comey's assault on liberal democracy. (eom)

[Mariana]

25. Why do you assume all of Stein's votes would have gone to Hillary?

I know a few third party voters. They disliked Trump and Hillary equally. If they had been forced to vote for one or the other, it's just as likely they would have cast their ballots for Trump.

[Cha]

31. I Blame Stein's DAMN LIES.. if she hadn't LIED her

Fucking Head OFF. The Votes might have gone to Hillary. Same with Fucking Liar Sarandon.

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

43. A vote for Jill Stein was a vote for trump

[Cha]

44. Yes, it was.. & so pathetic how many

are in Denial.

[JI7]

37. You are right. Things like Abortion Rights , Minority Rights , Environment are NOT Important to

Stein Voters . They are mainly just Grifters .

[JI7]

13. We call them racists and trash also. Sarandon is pretty much like them but claims to be liberal

[StevieM]

23. I disagree with both of you.

Hillary's job approval AND personal favorability were sky high just a few years before the election. And some of the people who didn't vote for her had supported her in 2008.

But I also don't blame Jill Stein, who probably took fewer votes away from her than Gary Johnson did. In the end, neither one of them is the real reason she lost, just like it wasn't because she supposedly ran a bad campaign.

James Comey dominated the 2016 election from start to finish. He baselessly put her under FBI investigation and then made it public. And he damaged her greatly when he smeared her in that press conference. Finally, he illegitimately reopened the bogus investigation right before the election. When that happened you could feel the ground moving underneath our feet.

Without Comey's antics we would have handily defeated Trump. He wasn't one factor out of many, he was more important than all other factors put together.

[StarfishSaver]

9. She influenced countless voters who didn't live in blue states.

And yes, I also blame racist white voters, especially white women whom I hope are enjoying seeing their rights ripped away just like we warned them.

[BainsBane]

20. Irrelevant to the point

Sarandon used her wealth and celebrity to convince voters that Hillary was worse than Trump. She is a symbol for the rat fuckers who own this court and the 200,000 deaths. The Green Party vote, and its difference from previous elections, was more than enough to cost Clinton the election. I find it interesting when people feel compelled to defend those who voted against Democrats.

[Takket]

36. "Somewhere between 6.7 million and 9.2 million Americans switched this way"

i find that number pretty hard to believe.

Hillary got about 100,000 less votes than Obama did in 2012.

drumpf got about 1,000,000 more than romney.

unless millions of romney voters went to Hillary, if 6.7 million Obama voters went to drumpf, Hillary should have been 6.7 million votes behind Obama.

[Dr. Strange]

4. Sarandon/Kaepernick

Wonder what their plans are for voting this year.

[BainsBane]

21. Sarandon says she'll vote for Biden

while Hillary's policies were significantly to the left of Biden's. But then he's a man.
Meanwhile, she accepts no responsibility or will even say she is wrong for campaigning with a message that said Hillary was worse than trump. Of course to her, he isn't because he has made her even more disgustingly rich.

[JI7]

38. She Endorsed John Edwards who COSPONSERED the IWR which people gave as reason to justify

her actions against Democrats.

[BainsBane]

39. Interesting.

A hypocrite to the core.

[betsuni]

41. Miraculously, he wasn't a "warmonger." Wonder why not.

[Tom Rinaldo]

6. No. it's the Putin Court.

Lots of accomplices but it remains the Putin Court.

[Cha]

8. Sarandon & Stein's LIES saying "Hillary was More Dangerous

than trump" had a big part of this Fucking Court.

They both have trump Blood on their Lying Ass Hands.

[Cha]

12. Jill Stein is now officially the Ralph Nader of 2016.. Goes for Sarandon, too

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

16. I agree

Link to tweet

[Cha]

17. & the LIES of Stein. Rt.. TY!

[andym]

18. I'd call it the PT Barnum court

because there are so many voters who have been bamboozled by Trump promising them unrealistic things like the return of big beautiful coal, jobs, and fantastic health care. Joe Biden is correct that he is like Goebbels.
The size of this voter population was (and is) far greater than any other that changed the destiny of the USA.

[Sogo]

19. 2016 was a perfect storm

Putin
Comey
Sarandon
Stein

[StevieM]

29. Let me rework that order for you:

COMEY (20 points)









Putin (10 points)



All other factors besides 3rd party candidates put together. (6 points)



Gary Johnson (2 points)
Jill Stein (1 point)


So James Comey's antics were more important than all other factors put together IMO. Johnson/Stein/all other factors, including Sarandon's idiocy, put together were worth 30 percent of what Comey and Putin did.

If you eliminate Comey from the equation we would have decisively beaten Trump. If you eliminate both Comey and Putin we would have destroyed him.

The 2016 election was illegitimate.

[Sogo]

32. I can buy that.

[Maru Kitteh]

26. Truer words never spoken DSB.

[Sympthsical]

27. Not Republicans, Not Obama-Trump voters, not non-voters

It was all Sarandon.

At first it was kind of bitterly funny that some believed this one actress held all this electoral power.

Now I’m starting to worry people have honestly shaped and settled into a reality where they think this true.

That’s less funny.

Sarandon was the most minor of things wrong with that election. It’s been four years and quite enough already. I’ve come to believe this magical thinking is solely intended to deflect blame from some quarters that richly deserved it. You’ve got Comey, Russia, vote suppression, etc. but Sarandon!

Personally, I’d have far more words and ire for Robbie Mook than I would a minor cable news presence. But, you know, that’s just crazy talk. It was obviously the actress.

[Cha]

33. They're All To BLAME.. Fucking Sarandon's LIES HELPED STEIN's LIES

..spewing "Hillary was More Dangerous than trump"

Link to tweet

[Sympthsical]

35. With margins that thin, you can blame a lot of people

I find who people prominently blame (or don’t blame) betray their biases.

But Sarandon slays me. She’s not even in the Top 10 of why that election went South. I keep thinking people cannot be serious, but then she comes up over and over. The Sarandon Court? Seriously?

That is some epic self-convincing.

[Cha]

42. Deny it all you want.. doesn't change the FACTS. SS,

the RF actress, was on tv all the time talking about "..the revolution.." & Lying that "Hillary is More Dangerous than trump".

How's the "..revolution.." working out for her & the World NOW?