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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSenate Democrats have already made their first move to slow down the chamber's operation.
Everything should be on the table, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said on Monday.
Senate Democrats have already made their first move to slow down the chambers operation. On Tuesday afternoon, Democrats invoked the two-hour rule, which limits the time when committees may hold hearings while the full Senate is in session. The move caused some committees to postpone their hearings on Tuesday.
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The move to invoke the two-hour rule suggests Schumer is willing to go to the mat to stop or slow this nomination ― and, if that fails, to make McConnell and Republicans pay for the hypocrisy of pushing to confirm a new justice four years after McConnell invented a rule that forbade him from considering then-President Barack Obamas nomination of Judge Merrick Garland.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-senate-confirmation_n_5f6dfe7cc5b64deddeecee7a
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I am impressed.
-Laelth
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Gore should have never conceded, as we now see all too clearly.
No more Mr./Ms. nice guy.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,525 posts)I applaud our Democratic members of Congress for the moves they are considering against the hypocritical republicans.
We are overdue for aggressive action.
And this article shows just what we can do.
Cha
(296,848 posts)Maraya1969
(22,462 posts)is lost because Russia stepped in somehow?
splunge63
(102 posts)chriscan64
(1,789 posts)there was a cover story. McConnell did not have the courage to just come out and say directly why he was doing what he did. He did not care that we called him an obstructionist then, or that we call him a hypocrite now. If he had the guts to say what he's thinking now it would be "I'm a hypocrite with three justices on the court."
Miigwech
(3,741 posts)just like the rest of America!
bucolic_frolic
(43,057 posts)No Garland, No Barrett
No rush to judgment
betsuni
(25,380 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)robbob
(3,522 posts)ahead of the election. I mean, yeah, grill the offered nominee relentlessly, raise a fuss, get outraged, by why on earth threaten the ReThugs with changing the makeup of the SC ahead of election day? It seems thats just providing ammo to tRump. You see what they want to do??? Theyre going to tamper with the sanctity of the SC and expand and stack it with radical left wing judges etc. etc.
I mean, yeah, sure, after the travesty of tRumps appointments of THREE right wing assholes, the last while RBG hasnt even been laid to rest is more then enough reason to expand the SC, and Im sure the general voting public will be on board with that, but first lets use the outrage to gain control of all three houses so that this could become possible. Dont give the other side ammo, and dont reveal your strategies ahead of time. Focus on winning the election first!
Lock him up.
(6,919 posts)2- The SC is just one of the three branches of government.
3- The Constitution does not define the number of nominees it has on the bench.
3 easy rebutals right there if the russiapublicans try it.
Marthe48
(16,904 posts)Lock him up.
(6,919 posts)Marthe48
(16,904 posts)I remember the lectures in American history class with this information. Thank you for saying
calimary
(81,110 posts)every damn time they dont want us messing with something they want.
... the sanctity of life...
... the sanctity of marriage...
They LOVE that messaging that throws God into everything.
There is no sanctity of the Supreme Court. Last I looked, there was nothing about God or the sacraments or Holy ANYTHING regarding the Supreme Court.
Besides, last I looked, this was a SECULAR construct, in what was clearly and firmly established as a SECULAR government. Sanctity has nothing to do with it.
robbob
(3,522 posts)Would possibly frame the issue to fire up their voters. Of course it has no basis in reality; does anything they ever say have much basis in reality? My point was, why announce possible future strategies and give them ammo to fire up the base using hysterical inflammatory language?
calimary
(81,110 posts)Why on earth should we give the enemy a sneak-preview? Or a leg up on what we're planning? Or time to get a counter-strategy together?
NO WAY!
And we have to do a few bold moves, too. Crazy-bold. The kind where you don't ask for permission now, you ask for forgiveness later. Because it's not characteristic of our side, and the bad guys won't be ready for it. They're far more used to us Dems being pushovers.
robbob
(3,522 posts)I was paraphrasing what tRump would say to fire up his base. It seems to me his base doesnt have much concern for facts or history or logic. They are purely fueled on emotion. My point still stands: why announce your intention ahead of time? Do you think telling tRump that if he confirms a new justice weeks ahead of an election then you will expand the number of justices will do ANYTHING to deter him?
As I said (speculated), all it will do is give him fuel to fire up his base. Its just a huge distraction. Lets win the election and the senate, and THEN decide if changes are needed to the Supreme Court...
Lock him up.
(6,919 posts)their crazy base is now a minority and one that is shrinking every year, not growing.
The majority (us) is expanding. Easy to see who wants to abolish all safety-net programs, who blocks measures to counter climate change, who stops everyone from getting universal health care (and moreso in a pandemic), who lies about the deficits when once in power they couldn't care less about it and loot the Treasury for themselves and their deep-pockets donors. It's not rocket science.
I say go on the offensive and expose their wrongdoings over and over again. Use easy rebutals to counter their "holier-than-thou" hypocrisy over and over and over again. Don't be afraid: There are more and more of us than there are of them.
soldierant
(6,791 posts)Maybe I'm paranoid - but why Give them time to prepare?
What they don't know has a better chance of succeeding. Hurried decisions are generally not as good as thought-out ones.
Like Gore's decision to concede, because no one had considered the possibility that Republicans might cheat with the vote counting. As an unprepared decision, it wasn't such a bad one. But it was wrong.
LiberalFighter
(50,783 posts)Marthe48
(16,904 posts)to get the seat.
Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)he can still be removed.
calimary
(81,110 posts)I was daydreaming about that same strategy earlier today!
I'd LOVE to see him removed. And replaced. Maybe Merrick Garland, for real justice.
dware
(12,250 posts)Let's be realistic, there is no way that we're going to get 67 votes in the Senate to convict and remove BoofBoy, it just isn't going to happen.
We need to expand the SC to balance out the cons. with good progressive SCJ's.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Why do you think that Congress didn't do it in 2019?
dware
(12,250 posts)There is no way that we're going to get 67 votes in the Senate to convict and remove him.
NNadir
(33,473 posts)...obvious and blatant hypocrisy will hurt the Repukes very badly in this election, so badly that their party may end up dissolved.
Their hatred of their country and its Constitution needs to be addressed by all possible means.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)Please use "RESTORE" instead.
As in restoring proper balance.
NNadir
(33,473 posts)...subject to clearly unconstitutional and unprecedented packing by the other side.
After this debacle of clear and unambiguous dishonesty, I fully expect that the Republicans, despite their politicization of the Supreme Court and destruction of Senatorial polity, will ever hold power again.
In this case, though I generally care about language, I don't care what it is called as long as it is done.