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Le Roi de Pot

(744 posts)
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:41 AM Sep 2020

I thought if Roe v Wade is overturned ..what is left for Republicans

They can no longer use it a wedge issue.

But I remembered there are many more steps left from making America into a christian nation ..( or as they call it - 'GREAT').. These assholes will not stop until they have Talibanized America...

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I thought if Roe v Wade is overturned ..what is left for Republicans (Original Post) Le Roi de Pot Sep 2020 OP
Methods of Birth control. mercuryblues Sep 2020 #1
that will be next for sure HAB911 Sep 2020 #28
Yep uponit7771 Sep 2020 #29
They will no longer need Rincewind Sep 2020 #2
Yup. After the Senate confirms Barett and Trump is crowned king, they might as well go home. Girard442 Sep 2020 #7
Obergefell, vouchers for religious education, plenty others. NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 #3
They will try to outlaw democrats having sex with and then eating children Cicada Sep 2020 #4
Griswold v. Connecticut (1965) Klaralven Sep 2020 #5
Unions TEB Sep 2020 #6
Oh, lots of goodies: no_hypocrisy Sep 2020 #8
If they do items 1 and 2 on your list... Yavin4 Sep 2020 #42
They are more about Racism than Roe V Wade. Roe v Wade is more about wanting to control women JI7 Sep 2020 #9
Old-fashioned Republicans knew how to use wedge issues. betsuni Sep 2020 #10
Guns krispos42 Sep 2020 #11
Are you kidding? Marriage equality... out the window. CurtEastPoint Sep 2020 #12
At the moment I am more worried MuseRider Sep 2020 #18
A safe bet. They are salivating at the prospect. CurtEastPoint Sep 2020 #20
pre-Roe v. Wade, it was up to the states. Roe v. Wade got rid of state bans progree Sep 2020 #13
That would take a Constitutional Amendment Mz Pip Sep 2020 #25
The Supreme Court decides what's constitutional progree Sep 2020 #26
I have a relative snowybirdie Sep 2020 #14
They will then demand a nationwide ban, overriding state laws Bettie Sep 2020 #15
Medieval treestar Sep 2020 #34
And that is why we have to expand the court Bettie Sep 2020 #36
That is just sick. smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #38
They aren't "pro-life" they are Bettie Sep 2020 #41
The battle will move from the courtroom to the ballot box. J_William_Ryan Sep 2020 #16
Voting has been brought up from time to time MuseRider Sep 2020 #17
An interesting question I hope we never get an answer to Takket Sep 2020 #19
You're not looking at the big picture. PTWB Sep 2020 #21
Birth control - they will say overturning RvW overturns all contraceptive rights. lark Sep 2020 #22
"serfs" how fitting. Because we will be under Russia's thumb. CTyankee Sep 2020 #23
I don't think that is going to happen Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #33
Sure women want contraception.... SlogginThroughIt Sep 2020 #43
Crazy rw fascists want it, they want women to have zero control of their bodies. lark Sep 2020 #51
This would not work out so well for them either. smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #39
why do you think they don't want to rais min wage? SlogginThroughIt Sep 2020 #44
You think they give a shit about them, ha, no. lark Sep 2020 #50
Um, no. It would be "Vote for us to PROTECT..." insert the rest. themaguffin Sep 2020 #24
Without a doubt, birth control HAB911 Sep 2020 #27
Brown v. Board of Education* BlueNProud Sep 2020 #30
What does the asterisk mean? mercuryblues Sep 2020 #49
Contraception, Health Care, Voting Rights, and so much more. MineralMan Sep 2020 #31
Creeping "Christianity" Retrograde Sep 2020 #32
Are you kidding? God in schools, marriage equality, guns, Dreamers, SMC22307 Sep 2020 #35
They don't give a fuck about abortion. Codeine Sep 2020 #37
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #40
Voting rights, health care, marriage equality, the environment, kairos12 Sep 2020 #45
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2020 #46
A lot is still left Jspur Sep 2020 #47
The next step is to make abortion illegal nationally. That is sufficient to keep them galvanized. Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #48
Enforcing womb control, Handmaids Tale style sarcasmo Sep 2020 #52

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
1. Methods of Birth control.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:44 AM
Sep 2020

Make no mistake, once you take away a woman's right over her own body, removing the rest of her rights are easy.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
7. Yup. After the Senate confirms Barett and Trump is crowned king, they might as well go home.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:51 AM
Sep 2020

Nothing for them to do anymore.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
8. Oh, lots of goodies:
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:51 AM
Sep 2020

1. Criminalize birth control
2. Criminalize adultery
3. Mandatory Christian prayers in schools
4. Criminalize sodomy and gay marriage
5. Re-institute Plessy v Ferguson (Separate-But-Equal)
6. Segregation (buying homes, schools, employment, wages) See #5

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
42. If they do items 1 and 2 on your list...
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 01:28 PM
Sep 2020

America becomes a giant penal colony. Only Ted Cruz will be a free man because no one wants to fuck him.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
9. They are more about Racism than Roe V Wade. Roe v Wade is more about wanting to control women
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:52 AM
Sep 2020

it's not specifically about wanting to stop abortions itself but more about not wanting women to be independent. These same people oppose birth control and sex education in general.

betsuni

(25,464 posts)
10. Old-fashioned Republicans knew how to use wedge issues.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:56 AM
Sep 2020

Never following through on promises about abolishing abortion and so on. As long as you promise to do things and don't, you can string them along for decades. Actually doing it is bad.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
18. At the moment I am more worried
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 10:05 AM
Sep 2020

about my gay friends. Most everyone is out and known. This could be really bad for them with this supreme court. Really bad.

They will get rid of the pesky baby killers first then LGBTQ are next. I would bet on it.

progree

(10,901 posts)
13. pre-Roe v. Wade, it was up to the states. Roe v. Wade got rid of state bans
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:58 AM
Sep 2020

so if Roe V. Wade is overturned, there's still a big battle left: making an abortion ban apply to the entire U.S. instead of leaving it up to the states.

snowybirdie

(5,223 posts)
14. I have a relative
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 09:02 AM
Sep 2020

who is a tRump supporter but who thinks she's a feminist. She stated to me four years ago that the Republicans will never outlaw abortion, ever! Ha!

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
15. They will then demand a nationwide ban, overriding state laws
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 09:18 AM
Sep 2020

and state constitutions.

What they will demand is no abortions ever in any circumstance.

Then they will go after a ban on contraception.

I had a conversation (argument) with a couple of fetus fetishists several years ago and we talked about a woman whose life would be endangered by pregnancy and they kept on with "if she dies it is god's will, every woman should be prepared to die if she becomes pregnant". At that point, I walked away, because there is no reasoning with them.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
34. Medieval
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 12:35 PM
Sep 2020

In those times, if you could heal, you could be accused of being a "witch" as the suffering was God's will. If they apply that to childbirth, it would seem to apply to everything else, too.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
36. And that is why we have to expand the court
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 12:38 PM
Sep 2020

or no one except the rich and powerful will have any rights at all.

You know how we note that when polled there is a subset of Republicans who would prefer slavery still be in place? That is the direction we're moving. Hyperbole? Well, so much that was unthinkable three years ago is now what's happening. Maybe, but maybe not.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
41. They aren't "pro-life" they are
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 01:24 PM
Sep 2020

fetus fetishists.

Of all the "pro-lifers" I have ever known, only one supports taking care of unwanted children and making contraception easily and inexpensively available. This one person is also the only so-called pro-lifer I have met who isn't an enthusiastic supporter of the death penalty as well.

So, I do see her as truly pro-life, the rest, it's all about punishing women for having sex.

J_William_Ryan

(1,753 posts)
16. The battle will move from the courtroom to the ballot box.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 09:36 AM
Sep 2020

We will need to use the political process – rather than the judicial – to oppose or repeal restrictions on privacy and reproductive rights, same-sex marriage bans, measures suppressing voting rights, and measures seeking to conjoin church and state.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
17. Voting has been brought up from time to time
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 10:02 AM
Sep 2020

usually quietly or loud then gone. This is how it is done. Jobs too. They want us back under the thumb of our husbands and making dinner and having babies like it was in the good old days. The good old days never stopped for some but the rest of us are not going back there.

It always starts with a mention but once this is overturned it will all be vomited out for us to see. It is going to be a long time before we ever get back to the pitiful place we are now without an ERA.

Takket

(21,560 posts)
19. An interesting question I hope we never get an answer to
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 10:06 AM
Sep 2020

They would most likely just replace it with another wedge issue to keep their base in line. Probably moving to bring back segregation and Jim Crow laws.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
21. You're not looking at the big picture.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 10:23 AM
Sep 2020

It will be VERY easy for them to transition to “preventing another Roe v Wade” instead of “overturning Roe v Wade” - literally NOTHING will change about the abortion wedge issue except some minor phrasing of their talking points to fire up their base.

lark

(23,091 posts)
22. Birth control - they will say overturning RvW overturns all contraceptive rights.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 10:53 AM
Sep 2020

They will say birth control pills are a form of abortion and outlaw them and then they will have gone too far and will be a permanent minority or disappear. That is if they haven't completely gutted the constitution by then and we are no longer America. I think that is what they truly plan - a male and rich dominated society with workers or women or minorities having zero rights and being in effect - serfs.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
33. I don't think that is going to happen
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 12:32 PM
Sep 2020

Last edited Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:05 PM - Edit history (1)

I know lots of anti-abortion women who are very pro-contraception. They all use it. Never happening. Men wouldn't want that either.

lark

(23,091 posts)
51. Crazy rw fascists want it, they want women to have zero control of their bodies.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 08:53 AM
Sep 2020

That's the idiots getting put on SCOTUS, so it doesn't matter what society wants, fascist SCOTUS wants to take us back to the dark ages and that's where we will go if Dems don't step up and change the presidency, the Senate as well as SCOTUS.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
39. This would not work out so well for them either.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 01:03 PM
Sep 2020

How will they provide for all those unwanted and unplanned children? What do they propose when there are millions of children in the foster care system or orphanages? What becomes of these children?

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
44. why do you think they don't want to rais min wage?
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 01:37 PM
Sep 2020

They want slave labor. They just don't want to have to house and feed them. Give people a pittance to try and survive on and you have a very cheap labor force.

lark

(23,091 posts)
50. You think they give a shit about them, ha, no.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 08:51 AM
Sep 2020

Most, will be taken by the mom or her or dads' relatives, even if they can't afford them. Some will be abandoned and that number will go up dramatically from what's happening now and more children will be adopted. Then there will be the unlucky ones who get thrown in the system, have any kind of issues at all so don't get adopted and corps will be glad to have a source of little-no wage workers. All the while society is lots more poor and devastated as we sink into the mire.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
31. Contraception, Health Care, Voting Rights, and so much more.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 12:12 PM
Sep 2020

There are multiple issues of interest to the far right. Think about it.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
32. Creeping "Christianity"
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 12:17 PM
Sep 2020

Marriage equality goes out the window, along with protections for anyone who doesn't fit into the ideal family mold. Increasing restrictions on contraception availability. Public funding of religious schools. The Affordable Care Act is at least gutted if not ditched completely.

Rollbacks on worker protection. Overthrow of the Lily Ledbetter act. Rollbacks on environmental protection. Chipping away at Brown vs Board of Education. And it will probably go on from there.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
35. Are you kidding? God in schools, marriage equality, guns, Dreamers,
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 12:37 PM
Sep 2020

Social Security and Medicare (yes, they'll be able to convince their dumbass followers that they're bad things...), etc. They'll NEVER run out of wedge issues and it's kind of surprising that you even asked the question.

kairos12

(12,852 posts)
45. Voting rights, health care, marriage equality, the environment,
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 01:41 PM
Sep 2020

unlimited guns for all, ability to regulate business, it doesn't end.

Response to Le Roi de Pot (Original post)

Jspur

(578 posts)
47. A lot is still left
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 02:36 PM
Sep 2020

for them to do. Destroy all worker rights and go back to what it was like in earlier part of 20 century where there was no safety for workers due to companies legally not being liable. I don't believe America today is a religious country. The majority of people are not religious so when they start trying to push religion on people there will be a political rebellion.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
48. The next step is to make abortion illegal nationally. That is sufficient to keep them galvanized.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 02:42 PM
Sep 2020

They won't give up on such an effective wedge issue.

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