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Nevilledog

(51,080 posts)
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 12:28 PM Sep 2020

The Supreme Court Doesn't Need 9 Justices. It Needs 27 (2018 article relevant today)

https://time.com/5338689/supreme-court-packing/

Justice Kennedy’s retirement has prompted a chorus of cries by Democrats to resuscitate a seemingly unlikely idea: “packing” the Supreme Court.

For would-be packers, expanding the court from nine to 11 justices, if and when the Democrats take back executive and legislative power, provides the only opportunity to regain a liberal majority on the court. A packing approach, in proponents’ view, is justified by the need to “fight dirty” in exigent times. The equally vociferous refrain of anti-packers worries about protecting the integrity of court: It’s not worth compromising the institution, they say, for a temporary policy result.

The battle over court packing is being fought on the wrong terms. Americans of all political stripes should want to see the court expanded, but not to get judicial results more favorable to one party. Instead, we need a bigger court because the current institutional design is badly broken. The right approach isn’t a revival of FDR’s court packing plan, which would have increased the court to 15, or current plans, which call for 11. Instead, the right size is much, much bigger. Three times its current size, or 27, is a good place to start, but it’s quite possible the optimal size is even higher. This needn’t be done as a partisan gambit to stack more liberals on the court. Indeed, the only sensible way to make this change would be to have it phase in gradually, perhaps adding two justices every other year, to prevent any one president and Senate from gaining an unwarranted advantage.

Such a proposal isn’t unconstitutional, nor even that radical. There’s nothing sacred about the number nine, which isn’t found in the constitution and instead comes from an 1869 act of congress. Congress can pass a law changing the court’s size at any time. That contrasts it with other potentially meritorious reform ideas, like term limits, which would require amending the constitution and thus are unlikely to succeed. And countries, with much smaller populations, have much larger high courts. In 1869, when the number nine was chosen, the U.S. was roughly a tenth of its current size, laws and government institutions were far smaller and less complex, and the volume of cases was vastly lower. Supreme Court enlargement only seems radical because we have lost touch with the fundamentals of our living, breathing constitution. The flawed debate over court-packing is an opportunity to reexamine our idea of what a Supreme Court is, and some foundational, and wrong, assumptions.

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The Supreme Court Doesn't Need 9 Justices. It Needs 27 (2018 article relevant today) (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2020 OP
The bigger the court, the less power of any single justice. Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #1
hear hear. now they only get the stupid big cases. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #2
I thought 21 justices when I thought about it...but 27 is better Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #3
Kick dalton99a Sep 2020 #4
 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
2. hear hear. now they only get the stupid big cases.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 12:36 PM
Sep 2020

while other unconstitutional shit flies under the radar every day.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
3. I thought 21 justices when I thought about it...but 27 is better
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 12:44 PM
Sep 2020

The real number is probably 91, given the population of the country is 10 times what it was in 1869.

Put it at 27. Increase the threshold for confirmation to 66 votes. These are things that could be done with legislation. Ideally, I would like to see a 16-20 year cap on serving.

The advantage is that 1 or 2 crazies can't significantly influence the court. And with a threshold of 66%, the justices will have to be palatable across you both parties.

I would love nothing more to stack the court with 18 liberal justices but that would do as much to delegitimize the court as what McConnell has been doing. We need a court that is fair, efficient and not dogmatic.

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