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jorgevlorgan

(8,291 posts)
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 05:57 PM Sep 2020

Will Trump's taxes break him in this election?

I really think they will. Biden will be able to now emphasize how much of a drain on society Trump has been as president and before.


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Yes
4 (19%)
No
14 (67%)
Maybe
3 (14%)
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Will Trump's taxes break him in this election? (Original Post) jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 OP
Probably not. There are millions who will be fine with it as long as Hoyt Sep 2020 #1
There isn't an option for "I think Trump was already going to lose but I don't mind the help". Statistical Sep 2020 #2
The only thing that will break him is an avalanche of Democratic voters. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2020 #3
Agreed. TwilightZone Sep 2020 #7
I'd vote "I hope so" if it were a choice soothsayer Sep 2020 #4
No, but it sure won't help him, either. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #5
deplorables will love him for bilking "authority" because government is evil etc. mucifer Sep 2020 #6
nope. his cult followers will praise him drray23 Sep 2020 #8
The only people self haters love are other self haters. Trump is the biggest self-hater of them all. Le Roi de Pot Sep 2020 #9
Maybe. But DEFINITELY keeps him in defense til November 3 MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #10
Not among the members of his base...I am waiting for the inevitable denials to flood in Miles Archer Sep 2020 #11
Teflon Don will just lie about them. NT. andym Sep 2020 #12
He was already broken. Laelth Sep 2020 #13
I doubt it will factor as THE issue kurtcagle Sep 2020 #14
The lying and pretending to be wealthy SHOULD make people question his ethics and loyalties. Beartracks Sep 2020 #15
No. Voter suppression and Biden ballots disproportionally tossed out. . . pat_k Sep 2020 #16
It'll put him off his game this week MissB Sep 2020 #17
no...he's probably got millions stashed away LeftInTX Sep 2020 #18
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Probably not. There are millions who will be fine with it as long as
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:00 PM
Sep 2020

trump keeps promoting racism and sticks it to the liberals.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
2. There isn't an option for "I think Trump was already going to lose but I don't mind the help".
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:00 PM
Sep 2020

Trumper's will chalk this up as fake news or somehow the mark of a genius businessman ... just wait. Everyone else well they already hate Trump to begin with. It might move the needle a bit on some independents but how many undecided independents are there left at this point.

Still it can't hurt that is for sure.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
4. I'd vote "I hope so" if it were a choice
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:01 PM
Sep 2020

?s=21

Donald J. Drumpf
@RealDonalDrumpf
FUCK YOU, UNCLE SAM! PAY FOR YOUR OWN DAMN ROADS AND SCHOOLS AND MILITARY!

Trump’s Taxes Show Chronic Losses and Years of Income Tax Avoidance
nytimes.com

 

Le Roi de Pot

(744 posts)
9. The only people self haters love are other self haters. Trump is the biggest self-hater of them all.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:02 PM
Sep 2020

His narcissism is to compensate his self hatred.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
11. Not among the members of his base...I am waiting for the inevitable denials to flood in
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:14 PM
Sep 2020

The issue here is not who is "pro-Trump" and who isn't. America has had 4 years and a flood of information to assist in that decision.

The issue is who is actually going to get off of their ass on November 3rd and vote..

So if we re-frame the question as "Will Trump's taxes influence voters who probably not going to vote on November 3rd," my answer is "probably not."

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
13. He was already broken.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:22 PM
Sep 2020

This might give Biden/Harris an extra % point or two, and it could give us a boost in the Senate if the Republican candidates defend Trump.

kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
14. I doubt it will factor as THE issue
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:22 PM
Sep 2020

The Libertarian mindset at work here sees paying any taxes as evil. No doubt his minions will praise him for being so clever as to make all those millions while paying no taxes. They'll just wish they were rich enough to be able to get out of paying taxes themselves. Those that were disgusted with Trump's behavior will only see this as more proof that he's a scoundrel and a cheat. It might push his disapproval ratings up 1-2 points, but I think it's the steady drumbeat of negative news that will hurt him far more.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
15. The lying and pretending to be wealthy SHOULD make people question his ethics and loyalties.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:33 PM
Sep 2020

But his fans will want to just write this off as partisan fake news. "Waah, you just don't like Trump because he is so awesome and sexy!!1!"

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pat_k

(9,313 posts)
16. No. Voter suppression and Biden ballots disproportionally tossed out. . .
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:57 PM
Sep 2020

... will more than make up for any voters he loses.

Polls of "likely voters" assume votes will be counted. This assumption is NOT true. It is EXTREMELY likely that 5% to 10% of Biden voters will either be prevented from voting or will have their ballots disallowed.

And even enough Biden votes are caste to overcome the "voter suppression" disadvantage, Trump legal challenges that make it to the Supreme court will be decided in Trump's favor by traitors in black robes.

It is terrifying, but we must recognize the risk of that this election will be successfully stolen by Trump is very high. We must do more than GOTV. We must be fighting against every tactic for suppressing Biden votes they have in their arsenal.

For example, we need a MASSIVE public information campaign advising all voters who vote by mail to read every instruction carefully, and triple check that their ballot is 100% error-free and packaged as required with any required certifications on envelopes and any required secrecy sleeves.

Statistics on the number of mail-in ballots rejected in states with the most egregious practices, and the importance of submitting an error-free ballot, needs to be hammered into people's heads.

Some ideas:


Get the location of your state's Biden headquarters. Write a letter asking them to include how critical it is to get you ballot "right" -- and how to do it -- along with EVERY GOTV message. And beg that they encourage Biden do the same whenever he talks about how critical it is to get your vote in ASAP.

Get contact information for other democratic candidate headquarters in your state and do the same.

If there aren't enough early voting and election day polling places in your county, write letters to the editor and cc your county election officials.

Do whatever else you can think of to help ensure Biden can easily vote and HAVE THEIR VOTES COUNTED. And encourage others to do the same.





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