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NY Times said they got his taxes "legally" (Original Post) Andy823 Sep 2020 OP
We just heard Vance could have gotten them legally a while ago. LizBeth Sep 2020 #1
Could Vance legally Andy823 Sep 2020 #4
I have no idea. LizBeth Sep 2020 #12
I missed that. Nexus2 Sep 2020 #10
Judge asked a couple days ago why he had not gotten them already, that he could have. I do not know LizBeth Sep 2020 #11
Thank you! Nexus2 Sep 2020 #31
It's not clear that they have the actual returns that were sent to the IRS. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #2
After the divorce, what is she going to get....his debt? Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #3
I think she has her money Andy823 Sep 2020 #7
If she was smart, she did. Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #8
Yes, but whatever she get would be based on what he has. And what if he has nothing ? JI7 Sep 2020 #14
Well there is all the money Andy823 Sep 2020 #21
I can see a fight between her and the 3 oldest kids for whatever JI7 Sep 2020 #22
Plus the skimming he and his spawn are evidently doing that has left his campaign broke after tblue37 Sep 2020 #23
She's been padding the hair stylist and wardrobe bills and pocketing the difference. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2020 #24
They probably have digital (scanned) copies FakeNoose Sep 2020 #5
Legally just means they did not steal them or hack into someplace. Bev54 Sep 2020 #6
Exactly. It is legal for NYT to receive and print documents. It is illegal for them to steal them. Midnight Writer Sep 2020 #18
They are not going to release the actual documents Bev54 Sep 2020 #19
There was this tidbit in the article chowder66 Sep 2020 #32
Well I guess they know now. Unbelievable, they are supposed Bev54 Sep 2020 #33
Nah, he's been lying to her too. tavernier Sep 2020 #9
Indeed. I can't really think of another legal source without a subpoena hlthe2b Sep 2020 #13
Thats what I thought Andy823 Sep 2020 #16
Mary Trump is the obvious person Darwin2019 Sep 2020 #15
She only had the financials during the time of the exclusion of her from the will. Yes, she's suing hlthe2b Sep 2020 #17
Gambling commissions would have insisted on real tax returns MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #20
actually they said it was provided by people with legal access to them dsc Sep 2020 #25
Well they pretty much have to say that fescuerescue Sep 2020 #26
Would Michael Cohen have a copy? NightWatcher Sep 2020 #27
Like Trump hasn't played fast and lose with "legally". Tough shit. dem4decades Sep 2020 #28
Nope! Had to be his former financial manager (name escapes me) and/or tax guy. Cohen helped I'll bet machoneman Sep 2020 #29
Allen Weisselberg? moondust Sep 2020 #30

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
11. Judge asked a couple days ago why he had not gotten them already, that he could have. I do not know
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:34 PM
Sep 2020

the specifics but I love the judge said that out loud for everyone.

Then Trumps taxes come out. Don't know if tied, but interesting this happens within days of each other.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,584 posts)
2. It's not clear that they have the actual returns that were sent to the IRS.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:27 PM
Sep 2020

The NYT article mentions tax records, which could be the documents used to prepare the returns.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
21. Well there is all the money
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:45 PM
Sep 2020

trump "doesn't" get legally, like the money from the RNC, millions he has gotten from the tax payers from golf trumps, and I am sure millions more that we don't eve know about, all money not declared on tax returns.

I am sure trump knows how to hide income, and his wife got her share.

tblue37

(65,217 posts)
23. Plus the skimming he and his spawn are evidently doing that has left his campaign broke after
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:49 PM
Sep 2020

raising nearly a billion dollars.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
24. She's been padding the hair stylist and wardrobe bills and pocketing the difference.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:51 PM
Sep 2020

If he looks in the mirror and thinks that hair was worth $70k, he probably thinks he spent $12 million dollars on those potato sacks he calls suits.

Bev54

(10,038 posts)
6. Legally just means they did not steal them or hack into someplace.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:30 PM
Sep 2020

Doesn't really matter how the people who gave the taxes to them got them.

Bev54

(10,038 posts)
19. They are not going to release the actual documents
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:03 PM
Sep 2020

to protect their sources. I think it is more to do with Barr's threats of a lawsuit.

chowder66

(9,054 posts)
32. There was this tidbit in the article
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 10:45 PM
Sep 2020

"House Democrats who have been in hot pursuit of Mr. Trump’s tax returns most likely have no idea that at least some of the records are sitting in a congressional office building. George Yin, a former chief of staff for the joint committee, said that any identifying information about taxpayers under review was tightly held among a handful of staff lawyers and was rarely shared with politicians assigned to the committee".

Bev54

(10,038 posts)
33. Well I guess they know now. Unbelievable, they are supposed
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 10:28 AM
Sep 2020

to be one deliberative body for the good of the people. They should have been shared.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
16. Thats what I thought
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:46 PM
Sep 2020

I am just glad it's coming out now. "If" he shows up for the debate, it should be easy for Joe to get him all worked up over this. He could have a meltdown on live TV!

hlthe2b

(102,119 posts)
17. She only had the financials during the time of the exclusion of her from the will. Yes, she's suing
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:56 PM
Sep 2020

now, but there has been no time at all for them to have received these documents in discovery, which, of course, Trump would fight.

Could they have been "laundered" through Mary? Maybe, but then who was the source? Trump's sister, maybe, but I'm not sure SHE has access to all the documents. In fact, I don't think she would.

MaryMagdaline

(6,851 posts)
20. Gambling commissions would have insisted on real tax returns
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:06 PM
Sep 2020

Or anyone seeking to go into business with him. Maybe he screwed an investor/ business partner and they gave up the copies of his tax returns.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
26. Well they pretty much have to say that
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:52 PM
Sep 2020

If they outright said it was illegal, Trump would be empowered to issue a restraining order.

Just how legal is something that the lawyers will fight out later on. After publication.

machoneman

(3,997 posts)
29. Nope! Had to be his former financial manager (name escapes me) and/or tax guy. Cohen helped I'll bet
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 09:01 PM
Sep 2020

as all three entities have been pressures for some time.

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