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Nevilledog

(51,080 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:13 PM Sep 2020

"...he accompanied her to gynecological appointments to ensure she couldn't get birth control."



Tweet text: David Beard
@dabeard
·
Sep 29, 2020
From the @AP investigation of People of Praise, the group that demands subjugation to men: "When she told her husband she wanted to wait to have more children...he accompanied her to gynecological appointments to ensure she couldn’t get birth control." https://apnews.com/article/new-orleans-donald-trump-amy-coney-barrett-us-supreme-court-courts-1be61f7c342

David Beard
@dabeard
On Friday, #PeopleofPraise removed all editions of its magazine, including references to #AmyConeyBarrett, whose family has been active in the controversial group for 4 decades. The @AP had reviewed 15 years of back issues for its investigation.
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"...he accompanied her to gynecological appointments to ensure she couldn't get birth control." (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2020 OP
That Is What They Are Coming For Next, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2020 #1
Yup....disgusting this woman would ever sit on the high court. Nevilledog Sep 2020 #4
First overturn Roe v. Wade. Then overturn Griswold v. Connecticut. Klaralven Sep 2020 #6
You are 100% right on this.When anti-choicers started defining the IUD & The Pill as abortifacients Hekate Sep 2020 #24
Republicans want to PLAY ROUGH??? yuiyoshida Sep 2020 #30
Yes, I think some do want to make birth control illegal. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #41
Oh, GAG ME. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2020 #2
And by 2 minutes later, AP has taken the article down! hedda_foil Sep 2020 #3
Barrett tied to faith group ex-members say subjugates women Klaralven Sep 2020 #10
What I find sad and depressing about that story PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #28
Pregnancy seems to be inevitable and determined by a woman's husband and Nature. no_hypocrisy Sep 2020 #5
"What do you call people who use the rhythm method? Parents." niyad Sep 2020 #11
And White people have no Rhythm Traildogbob Sep 2020 #27
we used to call it- vatican roulette. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #43
So, she will be too cowed by her husband to make independent decisions. patricia92243 Sep 2020 #7
That alone would bar her from being a judge of anything in my opinion. If she would change her Maraya1969 Sep 2020 #19
"Days of the Theocracy" by Kristin Lems comes to mind immediately. niyad Sep 2020 #8
Not all theocracies prohibit contraception Klaralven Sep 2020 #12
Calls into question which Law she would uphold (among other things). BadgerKid Sep 2020 #9
So, will her husband accompany her to AleksS Sep 2020 #13
The Handmaid's Kooks Blue Owl Sep 2020 #14
. notinkansas Sep 2020 #15
See my post 16. sheshe2 Sep 2020 #17
The Tweet is incorrect. sheshe2 Sep 2020 #16
I read the tweet as talking about a woman in the cult, not ACB specifically. Nevilledog Sep 2020 #22
Well since the AP story was deleted I have assume that 'they' were referring to Barrett. sheshe2 Sep 2020 #26
Thanks for helping us stay Dems, who care about facts. nt LAS14 Sep 2020 #40
K&R Solly Mack Sep 2020 #18
WOW APNEWS: Why did you delete your article? MagickMuffin Sep 2020 #20
Here's a good link PatSeg Sep 2020 #33
When will they get around to banning D&C procedure? Boogiemack Sep 2020 #21
JFC!!! I think that actually fits here. ResistantAmerican17 Sep 2020 #23
Where Does The Pope Stand On People Of Praise? DallasNE Sep 2020 #25
OMG, I thought this was going to be about a daughter... Never thought this was about a wife!! liberalla Sep 2020 #29
Amy Coney Barret is exempt from such hardships; she's one of the Elite. haele Sep 2020 #31
So, she is.. Lithos Sep 2020 #38
Yes, just as Phyllis Sharkey was. haele Sep 2020 #42
And they call Antifa radical? Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2020 #32
This makes me nauseous. And angry. SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2020 #34
Read up in the thread. cwydro Sep 2020 #35
Isn't it about her praise group though? SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2020 #36
Barret doesn't belong in the courts...she belongs in the house... moonseller66 Sep 2020 #37
Her husband needs to be the one being proposed for the Court Warpy Sep 2020 #39

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
24. You are 100% right on this.When anti-choicers started defining the IUD & The Pill as abortifacients
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:44 PM
Sep 2020

...the writing was in the wall for anyone who could read.

Vile, vile, vile.

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
41. Yes, I think some do want to make birth control illegal.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:21 PM
Sep 2020

I saw an ad this morning for telemedicine that gives women more options, though not in a fringe religious group like People of Praise. The website is simplehealth.com, and women can have an online consultation with a doctor, get a birth control prescription, and have it filled by mail.

In some countries, the birth control pill is available as an over-the-counter product because it has been used for so many years and is deemed safe. We need to do the same here.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,585 posts)
2. Oh, GAG ME.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:16 PM
Sep 2020

They make me sick with their hypocrisy and basic dislike for women.

Amy's just what we don't need on OUR Supreme Court.



 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
10. Barrett tied to faith group ex-members say subjugates women
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:23 PM
Sep 2020

Coral Anika Theill joined People of Praise’s branch in Corvallis, Oregon, in 1979, when she was a 24-year-old mother of 6-month-old twins. She said women were expected to live in “total submission” not only to their husbands, but also the other male “heads” within the group.

When she told her husband she wanted to wait to have more children, Theill said, he accompanied her to gynecological appointments to ensure she couldn’t get birth control.

“I was basically treated like a brood mare,” she said, using the term for a female horse used for breeding. During her 20-year marriage, Theill had eight children from 11 pregnancies.

https://apnews.com/article/us-supreme-court-donald-trump-amy-coney-barrett-archive-courts-dc51fad4aa8295289a09a6d0b54688a5

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
5. Pregnancy seems to be inevitable and determined by a woman's husband and Nature.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:18 PM
Sep 2020

1. He won't allow her to use birth control.
2. Therefore the Rhythm Method is employed which is like Russian Roulette with your eggs.
3. Even if the woman/wife defers from sex on her ovulating days, she can't deny him his rights as a husband.

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
27. And White people have no Rhythm
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:00 PM
Sep 2020

Meaning whites continue to be majority race.🤨 Count the kids from Auntie Amy, Romney’s and Santorum alone. Can we say Carrying Capacity. I spent 30 years teaching Wildlife Science and Forest Ecology. Every species that exceeded that limit ended up devastated by disease, to bring the population drastically down............or ended. But you know, just fake news science, libtard cult propaganda.

Maraya1969

(22,477 posts)
19. That alone would bar her from being a judge of anything in my opinion. If she would change her
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:22 PM
Sep 2020

mind/ruling because her husband told her to do so then she could not be considered independent at all.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
13. So, will her husband accompany her to
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:34 PM
Sep 2020

the deliberation room to make sure he approves her SC decisions?

sheshe2

(83,744 posts)
16. The Tweet is incorrect.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:16 PM
Sep 2020

I read the whole article this morning on Apple news. The woman that they were talking about was not Amy Coney Barrett it was Coral Anika Theil and the quote is hers. The tweet from David beard has a link that is listed as not found.

I’m on my phone so I’m not sure how to send you the correct story from ABC news. Theil wrote a book on it... saying that she was treated like a broodmare and in her 20 years of marriage she had eight children from 11 pregnancies.

sheshe2

(83,744 posts)
26. Well since the AP story was deleted I have assume that 'they' were referring to Barrett.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:53 PM
Sep 2020

Seems most in this thread think it is Barrett. While I believe she is an ugly evil person that will undo all the gains that RBG fought for her entire life, it is not her quote and sadly some here think it is.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/barrett-tied-faith-group-members-subjugates-women-73299646

“There’d be open meetings where you just have to stand for the group and they’d tell you all that was wrong with you,” Theill recounted to the AP last week. “And I would ask questions. I was a critical thinker.”

When she told her husband she wanted to wait to have more children, Theill said, he accompanied her to gynecological appointments to ensure she couldn’t get birth control.

“I was basically treated like a brood mare,” she said, using the term for a female horse used for breeding. During her 20-year marriage, Theill had eight children from 11 pregnancies.

Theill, who says she declined to take the covenant, described being dominated and eventually shunned because of the doubts she expressed about the group.


The article is very long and it made me cry. Theil got away, finally...I am horrified that Barrett might actually sit on SCOTUS.



MagickMuffin

(15,936 posts)
20. WOW APNEWS: Why did you delete your article?
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:24 PM
Sep 2020

Did someone notify you to do so?

Ya know since you put it out there you knew this was important information WE the PEOPLE deserve to know. Especially since WE have someone wanting a seat at the highest court in the land and she is controlled by her husband.

How does that work?

Will her husband have to see all the court dockets and decide the cases for her. She obviously can't think for herself.

Will her husband write her papers for her?

Will he get a seat on the bench sitting along beside her, giving her the answers while the Court is in session?


These are just a very few and simple questions that SHOULD be asked about her.

 

Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
21. When will they get around to banning D&C procedure?
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:30 PM
Sep 2020

This has been used by many privileged women to have their insurance pay for an otherwise early stage abortion.

liberalla

(9,238 posts)
29. OMG, I thought this was going to be about a daughter... Never thought this was about a wife!!
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:14 PM
Sep 2020

Wow... this is way too controlling for me to even imagine! Horrible.



haele

(12,647 posts)
31. Amy Coney Barret is exempt from such hardships; she's one of the Elite.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:22 PM
Sep 2020

Or Elect, or whatever term they use.

She's never, ever going to be a forced broodmare and housewife. Her birth/marriage status, talents, and public charisma make her a "lady" or a "gentlewoman", so while she may experience some unpleasantness if her husband really wants sex, she has as much control over her own sexuality as she personally feels is fitting.

Historically, "ladies" in her situation are raised in an environment that will allow them to expand their personalities and desires just to the point on independence - but not beyond, so that their native intelligence can be honed into a tool for the use of whatever man or association directs their lives. It takes a stronger character than the one she apparently has to break free and be fully independent.

If she wasn't so proudly venial and in such a position to do such damage to humanity in general, I'd almost feel sorry for her. But, her choice to proceed with her nastiness and hatefulness after getting a reasonably good education, therefore, there's nothing to excuse her.

Either she's going to fade into dust as all bodies do, or if the afterlife she purports to believe in actually exists, she's going to eventually meet her maker and be judged in turn; after explaining some reason she thinks is "okay" for all the pain and suffering she and her cohorts are currently inflicting on the rest of creation.

Haele

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
38. So, she is..
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:13 PM
Sep 2020

The Tom Cruise of her particular cult? Too sacrosanct to "touch", but definitely not the role model for the average cultist.

And Hi - hope you all are well in SD!

haele

(12,647 posts)
42. Yes, just as Phyllis Sharkey was.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:33 PM
Sep 2020

Otherwise, how could she occupy a "high position" over men, unless as some sort of pretty distraction in an attempt to normalize her associates. "See, we really aren't that bad -if the little lady has talent, we will encourage it..."

Hi back yourself! San Diego is still a great place to live, even though it's expensive. Laz and I are doing well enough; raising 2 grandkids in quarentine. Luckily, I can telework and he can Zoom tutor.

Haele

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
34. This makes me nauseous. And angry.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:44 PM
Sep 2020

Do we actually need a new women's liberation movement? The irony that this woman got where she is now because of long fought for rights is just more in our face, corrupt conservatism .

moonseller66

(430 posts)
37. Barret doesn't belong in the courts...she belongs in the house...
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:06 PM
Sep 2020

according to her beliefs...
maybe she should be in the kitchen and laundry room, churn some butter, change those diapers shop for food (or kill it and prepare it),
and make sure supper's on the table each and every day of her life...and don't forget her responsibilities to the brood.

We need the ERA back up for ratification as soon as possible.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
39. Her husband needs to be the one being proposed for the Court
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 03:16 PM
Sep 2020

because it seems he is the one who is going to be making her decisions for her.

I thought Lincoln freed the slaves.

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