I'm sick of the "both sides" shit. It wasn't both sides. The problem was Trump.

[cbdo2007]

Everyone knows it was Trump which is why Trumps own team would never agree to a debate where he can't be aggressive, loud, and controlling.

Don't let them get away with the "both sides" thing. Call them out.

Who interrupted whom more?

Who went over their time over and over again and talked over the other person?

Who was reprimanded by the moderator multiple times for breaking the debate rules and not answering questions directly?

"Both sides" is a false flag that means they know they were wrong, but we need to turn this back against them and let them know it wasn't both sides, it was one side.

[SharonClark]

1. I haven't read a single article about the debate where that has been stated.

What are you reading?

[cbdo2007]

9. Most aren't literally saying "both sides" but they imply it with "pure chaos" or

"a disaster" or "an embarrassment" and implying the debate itself was terrible, rather than saying "Trump was pure chaos" or "Trump was a disaster" or "Trump was an embarrassment".

On social media there is plenty of talk that it was both sides interrupting and both sides not following rules, etc, implying they were doing it equally when it was heavily Trump doing it all.

[brush]

10. That's exactly right, which of course implys Biden was just as responible as trump.

[bdamomma]

2. It was one sided

it was the bully tactics because that is all he has. VOTE.

[redstatebluegirl]

3. 538 had a cheeky article this morning saying

Both sides did poorly. I quit reading after the first two paragraphs.

[Claustrum]

5. Nate Silver, to his credit, retracted his comment about 2 sides are bad in his tweet

He said after things settled down, he realized it wasn't as 2 sides as he felt at first during the debate.

[TwilightZone]

18. If someone as analytical as Silver gets it so very wrong...

it's not surprising that the right wing can manipulate average voters to believe the same nonsense.

[Claustrum]

22. Sorry to inform you that Nate Silver is analytical only on mathematics

He falls into bias and other similar things when it comes to his political comments.

[TwilightZone]

23. He's usually pretty good at avoiding bothsides'isms.

This one was an own goal, to use soccer/football parlance, though he obviously realized that later.

[Claustrum]

4. Yup. MSNBC just showed an interview of "undecided voters"

and most of them said both of them are bad. Yes, both talked over each other at times and trade insults. But Trump did 80-90% of it. It's not fair to say both side did it.......

Biden tried to follow rules and respected Wallace's request when asked. Trump didn't. If Biden didn't cut in at times, he wouldn't be able to respond at all.

[Squinch]

12. Undecided voters, who at this point are simply the people who were dropped on their heads as babies.

They thought they were at a nail salon, and want both hands polished.

[The Wizard]

13. Undecided means they like Trump but they're embarrassed to admit it.

Pox News brain poison is very effective at getting viewers to detach from reality. Undecideds think professional wrestling is a competitive sport.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

17. Or their friends/family like Trump and they don't want to endure their wrath being a known defector.

[brush]

14. Anybody undecided at this time shouldn't be taken seriously...

especially if they said both of them were bad. After watching that trump shit show and thinking it came form both sides, it's apparently those people don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.

[SharonClark]

16. Saw that. They all sounded dumb as a box of rocks.

[Laelth]

6. Even Chris Wallace accused Trump of interrupting far more often.

There was some both-siderism in the initial, post-debate analysis, but that is fading after the initial shock of the debate has worn off.

Trump was abusive (of Biden, of Wallace, of the debate process, of our politics, and of the American people). Many are seeing that clearly this morning.

-Laelth

[raccoon]

7. Thank you. It's just like a relationship. It takes two to make it successful

Thank you. It’s just like a relationship. It takes two to make it successful, But only one to tear it down.

[UCmeNdc]

8. 100% Agree!!! Biden did what he needed to do. Trump started it.

Joe Biden just ended it.

Now don't call it even.

[The Wizard]

11. False equivalence is what they do

when they can't answer the question.

[Johnny2X2X]

15. Last night was a bad night for the Trump Campaign

It was a disaster for them and his people probably were up all night to try to come up with a plan for damage control.

Joe did fine, but Trump lost. This will move the polls more towards Biden.

Betting market went from Biden being the favorite -115 to Biden being the favorite -161 overnight. That's a significant move.

Basically if you would have bet on Biden before the debate, you'd have had to bet $115 to win $100, after the debate you'd have to bet $161 to win $100.

He went from the slight betting favorite to the clear betting favorite. That means during and after the debate a lot of gamblers bet on Biden to win.

[Laelth]

19. Trump refused to condemn White supremacy!

A lot of people are (rightly) pissed off about that.

-Laelth

[Johnny2X2X]

20. The whole GOP is panicking

He just crushed Republican candidates all over the country down ticket.

He left them and they will start leaving him now.

[Laelth]

25. Let us hope. n/t

-Laelth

[Oneironaut]

21. If Biden didn't go on the attack, the same people would be saying how weak he was.

[Laelth]

24. Biden did fine under the circumstances.

He had to get in the mud a little because his opponent refused to play by the rules.

-Laelth