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Voltaire2

(13,012 posts)
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 11:55 AM Oct 2020

The Post Office has been ordered to obstruct voting by mail.

I went to my post office this morning to hand in my absentee ballot and the clerk informed me that they have been ordered to NOT process absentee ballots directly (by transferring them to the town clerks office directly) but must instead process them as regular mail. transferring them to the regional processing center.

The only reason for this order is delay and obstruct voting.

I am fucking furious.

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The Post Office has been ordered to obstruct voting by mail. (Original Post) Voltaire2 Oct 2020 OP
Dropped my ballot off at the city clerks, election drop box. sarcasmo Oct 2020 #1
Do you know for sure that the previous policy was to transfer them directly in past elections? (nt) mr_lebowski Oct 2020 #2
yes. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #11
Thanks. Then this is pretty f'ed up. Any idea what can be done? (nt) mr_lebowski Oct 2020 #37
In Bexar County, Texas the post offices are separating mail ballots from regular mail LeftInTX Oct 2020 #21
We did when I worked for the Post Office. Midnight Writer Oct 2020 #33
Thank goodness the clerk informed you, I'd have made arrangements to hand deliver. KS Toronado Oct 2020 #3
Where are you? Contact your Senator maybe or congress person. triron Oct 2020 #4
In my county there is not a ballot drop box. peacebuzzard Oct 2020 #5
I don't think this has ever been the policy of the USPS. Please check and verify. CurtEastPoint Oct 2020 #6
Correct. The OP is a false flag. gristy Oct 2020 #10
um bullshit. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #14
They are presorting ballots at the local post offices in Bexar County LeftInTX Oct 2020 #24
I just got back from the town clerk's office. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #31
In small towns, they will sort locally and then deliver. LiberalArkie Oct 2020 #19
Does your state have drop boxes? LisaL Oct 2020 #7
nope. Not allowed. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #32
No. That the USPS should be doing what you are suggesting is surely false. gristy Oct 2020 #8
This is a local post office in a small town. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #15
How "small" of a small town? Sogo Oct 2020 #26
Small enough that there is one post office and the town clerk is only open 2.5 days a week. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #27
Call your rep & senators, your local democratic office, & your local media stations. CrispyQ Oct 2020 #9
Know what? LisaL Oct 2020 #22
They deliver mail as mail. Codeine Oct 2020 #12
Of course it is. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #16
That sort of thing happens all the time with regular mail. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 #25
This change happened several years ago here. CloudWatcher Oct 2020 #34
I always thought our ballots in WA were processed as mail. Never gave it a 2nd thought. maxsolomon Oct 2020 #18
Bring it to your town clerk yourself. Don't let DeJerk touch it. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #13
I didn't know that was possible ecstatic Oct 2020 #17
oh please read more carefully Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #20
Ok. I thought you were referring to dropping ecstatic Oct 2020 #29
You can go to the post office to have it send as regular mail. LisaL Oct 2020 #23
Oh wow. That is terrible!! Vivienne235729 Oct 2020 #28
Mine is going straight to the county ballot collection box Maru Kitteh Oct 2020 #30
Kick for visibility cry baby Oct 2020 #35
Funny how Republicans always claim to be spreading democracy around the world, WyattKansas Oct 2020 #36

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
21. In Bexar County, Texas the post offices are separating mail ballots from regular mail
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:14 PM
Oct 2020

And are sending them directly to the elections office and bypassing the main post office for sorting.

Obviously if someone is sending a mail ballot to another county or state etc, they can't do this.
I think we have 28 post offices here, so it takes one truck per day from each post office to deliver them to the elections office. Pretty good deal!

peacebuzzard

(5,167 posts)
5. In my county there is not a ballot drop box.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:02 PM
Oct 2020

You cannot even walk in to the county election commission with your ballot.
It has to go by US mail.

I am voting early, and in-person. I do not trust the system here.

CurtEastPoint

(18,639 posts)
6. I don't think this has ever been the policy of the USPS. Please check and verify.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:04 PM
Oct 2020

Their job is to deliver stamped mail

Voltaire2

(13,012 posts)
14. um bullshit.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:08 PM
Oct 2020

The PO clerk herself informed me that this was a change in policy, that previously they had transferred all absentee ballots directly from the post office to the town clerk.

Thanks anyway though.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
24. They are presorting ballots at the local post offices in Bexar County
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:17 PM
Oct 2020

The ballots are being sent directly to the elections office and are bypassing the sorting facility

Voltaire2

(13,012 posts)
31. I just got back from the town clerk's office.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 01:49 PM
Oct 2020

She said the postmaster came in this morning and informed them that the post office was no longer directly transferring the ballots, and that they should expect an increase in in-person drop off and a delay in ballot delivery.

She was not happy.

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
19. In small towns, they will sort locally and then deliver.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:13 PM
Oct 2020

But larger post offices probably send all to the regional sorting.

My whole county is only 10 thousand people and I think about 5 postoffices maybe a few more,

gristy

(10,667 posts)
8. No. That the USPS should be doing what you are suggesting is surely false.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:04 PM
Oct 2020

Regular mail. That is all that is needed and expected and promised.

Voltaire2

(13,012 posts)
15. This is a local post office in a small town.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:10 PM
Oct 2020

And in prior elections, including our primary in September, they processed all absentee ballots locally.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
26. How "small" of a small town?
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:24 PM
Oct 2020

In my small town, the courthouse is three blocks from the Post Office. No way would I take it to the PO, when I could take it directly to the courthouse....

Voltaire2

(13,012 posts)
27. Small enough that there is one post office and the town clerk is only open 2.5 days a week.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:29 PM
Oct 2020

The only reason for the order to not expedite ballots is to obstruct the vote.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
9. Call your rep & senators, your local democratic office, & your local media stations.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:05 PM
Oct 2020

Please make these calls! Post on FB, Nextdoor, wherever, & let people know!

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
12. They deliver mail as mail.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:08 PM
Oct 2020

It’s not reasonable to expect direct delivery without moving through a processing center. Besides, the election is a month away — you’ve got time.

If you’re worried drop it directly at the clerk’s office yourself.

Voltaire2

(13,012 posts)
16. Of course it is.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:12 PM
Oct 2020

There is zero reason in a small town to move local mail to a regional center to have it shipped back to the same local post office.

But I'll go with the Post Office clerk who stated it was a change in policy ordered by the PO administration.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
25. That sort of thing happens all the time with regular mail.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:22 PM
Oct 2020

I live in Santa Fe, and my understanding that something mailed in Santa Fe to be delivered to a Santa Fe address goes to Albuquerque to be processed. And always has.

You have dropped your ballot off a month before election day. I think you have nothing to worry about. Does your state allow you to track your ballot?

CloudWatcher

(1,846 posts)
34. This change happened several years ago here.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 02:47 PM
Oct 2020

Our local PO used to have two drop-offs, one for "local" mail and one for "out of town" mail.

A few years ago they merged them. Now all mail goes to Denver for processing and then (if appropriate) comes back.

I was initially puzzled, but then assumed it was due to security. They wanted all the mail to go through the giant sorting machines in Denver ... to get pictures of them.

Still a stupid reason, but at least there was a reason.

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
18. I always thought our ballots in WA were processed as mail. Never gave it a 2nd thought.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:13 PM
Oct 2020

We used to have to put postage on them because that was what it took to get Republican cooperation in passing the system through the State Senate. Now we don't, because the state GOP has even less power now than it did then.

The election is 4+ weeks away. Any ballot that goes through the mail now, with 1st class postage, is going to make it there in plenty of time.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
17. I didn't know that was possible
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:12 PM
Oct 2020

to just drop it off at the post office? I guess it's a good thing I didn't know, now that it's no longer allowed. lol

Voltaire2

(13,012 posts)
20. oh please read more carefully
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:14 PM
Oct 2020

You could always and still can drop off your ballot at the post office. My local small town post office has been ordered to stop processing ballots directly and instead ship them off to the regional center. T

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
23. You can go to the post office to have it send as regular mail.
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 12:17 PM
Oct 2020

Post office is not the same as an official ballot drop off box.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
36. Funny how Republicans always claim to be spreading democracy around the world,
Mon Oct 5, 2020, 03:27 PM
Oct 2020

Using democracy as an excuse for a war, and deregulating everything for our democracy, but Republicans immediately slam into strict regulated Republic mode when it comes to allowing their own Citizens vote.

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