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WASHINGTON Extremists from groups linked to al Qaida struck the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, in a deliberate and organized terrorist attack, the top U.S. intelligence agency said Friday, as it took responsibility for the Obama administrations initial claims that the deadly assault grew from a spontaneous protest against an anti-Islam video.
The unusual statement from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence appeared to have two goals: updating the public on the latest findings of the investigation into the assault, and shielding the White House from a political backlash over its original accounts.
In the immediate aftermath (of the assault), there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo, spokesman Sean Turner said in the statement. We provided that initial assessment to executive branch officials and members of Congress, who used that information to discuss the attack publicly.
The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which coordinates and sets policies for the 16 other U.S. intelligence agencies, is led by retired Air Force Gen. James Clapper, who was appointed by President Barack Obama in August 2010.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/09/28/170078/intelligence-office-says-it-got.html#storylink=cpy
former-republican
(2,163 posts)speedoo
(11,229 posts)They won't be, don't kid yourself.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)When all the evidence was there not to get it wrong.
Someone needs to lose their job.
speedoo
(11,229 posts)And you have no idea what evidence the intel folks had when they made their initial assessment.
atreides1
(16,072 posts)They fix the problem so it doesn't happen again...and I'm pretty sure the people who got it wrong are feeling like shit already!
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)The assessment was on what caused the attack and killing of four americans. The agency got it wrong, but I can see how that could have happened. I suggest that you sit a the point in a fast moving situation, attempting to piece together any shred of information that you can latch on to, it is not a good place or good feeling. In a world where people are always attempting to cover their asses, the agency admitting that it got information wrong is a refreshing bit of candor.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)but wasn't there evidence and indication that the Ambassador was being targeted by Al Qaeda?
That he had reported he didn't feel safe.
kurt_cagle
(534 posts)Intelligence is a hard game to play, especially in a country that's overthrown a dictator only months before. The government in place is still learning to govern, you have dozens of factions each looking to take advantage of the situation, and most of the intelligence assets that had been on the ground were evacuated. In an environment like that, you're limited to intelligent guessing, and it is usually only some time afterwards that enough information emerges to connect the dots.
MADem
(135,425 posts)This entire imbroglio is a made-up load of horseshit courtesy of Loudmouth Peter King--who is being shown to be a politicizing asshole who doesn't know how to use a phone to get a briefing, and who instead goes on CNN and falsely accuses a UN ambassador of stuff she didn't do.
He had the info at his fingertips--a phone call away. Apparently, he's the only Homeland Security Chair in the world who doesn't know how to use a telephone and the power of his office to garner information from other branches of government.
Instead, he grandstanded for his little pal Mittsy. Pretty fucking sleazy. Point at him and mock his dumb ass.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)If mistakes were made and are not fixed, this will happen again, resulting in more lives lost.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Firing people isn't always the right solution.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)I'm saying if there was credible evidence that there might be a attacked planned and someone missed it.
They or he should lose their job.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Peter King is politicizing the death of the Libyan ambassador -- and telling lies while so doing -- to help his buddy Mittsy.
Peter KING needs to RESIGN or be FIRED. He doesn't even know how to use the power of his office to check his "facts" before he shoots off his loud mouth. Pretty stupid, if you ask me.
Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)Is this really the BFD .that the Repubs are making it out to be?
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)It won't though.
MADem
(135,425 posts)former-republican
(2,163 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)All those "Liberty University" type analysts could find themselves out of a job if Obama decides to use this as a reason to clean house...in DECEMBER.
And he just might. It would serve 'em right.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Fucking DUMBASS tool--we should ask for HIS resignation. He clearly doesn't have the chops to handle that chairmanship he bandies about like a cudgel! What an ASSHOLE he is!
For anyone who doesn't know what I am referencing (and because I'm not oblique or demand that everyone know everything all the time) here's a link to what I am talking about:
I believe that this was such a failure of foreign policy messag[ing] and leadership, such a misstatement of facts as was known at the time for her to go on all of those shows and in effect be our spokesman for the world and be misinforming the American people and our allies and countries around the world, to me, somebody has to pay the price for this, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee told CNN.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81808.html#ixzz27opd3gmi
RESIGN, Peter King--how can you call yourself a "Chairman" of the Homeland Security Committee in the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES if you CAN'T EVEN BOTHER TO CHECK THE INTEL BEFORE YOU SHOOT YOUR FAT MOUTH OFF!!!
He can ask for a briefing--he can pick up the secure phone and get DETAILS. He HAS a fucking clearance....but what does he do? He goes on CNN and stumps for RMoney-Warmongering with a load of BULLSHIT. He should RESIGN or Bonehead should fucking fire his ass!!! Say it loud! Repeat it often--PETER KING SHOULD RESIGN--he clearly doesn't know how to GET THE BASIC INFORMATION from the government he works in to DO HIS JOB. All he knows how to do is talk trash on Wolf Blitzer's gabfest!
ProSense
(116,464 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)All these reports are about what they learned in the "aftermath." Why are people surprised that initial reports change as more information becomes available?
Fact is, this is completely different from what the RW/Republican were initially pushing, which was that there was intelligence before hand. That is still not the case.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Even Al-Jazeera had it figured out even before Susan Rice made her "no planned attack" statement.
C'mon guys, get your shit together.
MADem
(135,425 posts)He could have picked up the phone and found out that the error lay with the intel crew (we're talking careerists, many hired by BUSH, now) and not the Ambassador to the UN....but instead, he tried to blame her. On TV. And this asshole is the Chair of Homeland Security Committee? I'd say we have PLENTY to worry about with a moron like that making the legislative decisions on HS. He doesn't even know how to dial a phone, apparently.
This is NOT about Susan Rice--she is an AMBASSADOR who took a briefing, not an intel analyst.
Jesus, indeed.