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Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:41 PM Oct 2020

Can you guys (who're interested) PLEASE give me your opinions on the severe,

and pathological genesis of Mitch McConnell's true purpose regarding these judges?

His wife has loads of money so I'm not inclined to think it's that. I listened to a great podcast about him on NPR a couple of months ago and he's not a religious fanatic.

In all seriousness, I'm truly interested in what propels him. Also, I saw the phenomenal presentation given by Sheldon Whitehouse which was eye-opening and chilling..

Thank you....

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Can you guys (who're interested) PLEASE give me your opinions on the severe, (Original Post) Upthevibe Oct 2020 OP
Simple. It's all about power. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #1
Thank you TwilightZone.... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #5
Right there with you. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #9
I don't really understand it either, PatSeg Oct 2020 #22
PatSeg.... Upthevibe Nov 2020 #39
Raw power: He believe this will be his legacy as "the most powerful" Senate leader. n/t CincyDem Oct 2020 #2
Yep, when you think about it, he's argurably more powerful than trump... brush Oct 2020 #7
Thank you, brush..... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #10
Thank you, CincyDem.... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #8
Power lust has infected the GOP, all the way down to the MAGAT hordes. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #36
The demographic trends of the electorate are against the Republican worldview. Frasier Balzov Oct 2020 #3
Frasier Balzov, good point... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #15
If precedent shall be our guide. Frasier Balzov Oct 2020 #35
Fraisier Balzov... Upthevibe Nov 2020 #40
Impeachment is impossible unless we take 2/3 of the Senate, lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #37
People with a lot of money always want more wryter2000 Oct 2020 #4
Thank you wryter2000.... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #16
He seems to be a huge fan of James Buchanan pandr32 Oct 2020 #6
Thank you, pandr32... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #17
You're welcome pandr32 Oct 2020 #38
pandr32.... Upthevibe Nov 2020 #41
It's most definitely about money and his wife's financial interests.. ananda Oct 2020 #11
Thanks, ananda.... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #18
Capt Bligh says it's fear. Clearly fogged in Oct 2020 #12
Clearly fogged in.... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #19
He has to keep fighting Clearly fogged in Oct 2020 #20
For Mitch and probably many other republicans, it's not about abortion or anything religious. In It to Win It Oct 2020 #13
In It to Win It, thank you..... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #23
my dad, bless his heart, always watched military shows on tv...usually on the History channel.. samnsara Oct 2020 #14
Samnsara, Thank you.... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #25
For the same reasons that someone with enough money to last 20 lifetimes spends all their Doremus Oct 2020 #21
Doremus...You are SO right about the whole money situation... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #26
I've had the same questions going through my mind jmbar2 Oct 2020 #24
jmbar2...Wow.... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #29
Mitch McConnell is a Republican. aidbo Oct 2020 #27
aidbo.... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #31
There is no such thing as too much money. Statistical Oct 2020 #28
Statistical....You're right.... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #32
I know many Republicans forthemiddle Oct 2020 #30
forthemiddle... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #34
His legacy as a right-winger NorthOf270 Oct 2020 #33

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
5. Thank you TwilightZone....
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:51 PM
Oct 2020

I don't think I've ever truly understood the "high" from power.....Maybe that's why I'm so perplexed. I'm a recovering alcohol/addict (over 30 years) and I had a friend tell me that power's "like that" in terms of the feeling....

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
9. Right there with you.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:55 PM
Oct 2020

I get it and somewhat understand it, but I have a hard time understanding how people could sell out everything they believe in in the pursuit of power.

I've spent many a day since 2016 wondering how every single one of the Republicans in Congress would fall behind an incompetent buffoon, but it all comes down to this - doing so gives them power and keeps them in power. It's the only thing that matters to them, in the end. When they move every so slightly out of line, Trump or McConnell threatens their status or funding or endorses their primary opponents, and they hop right back in line.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
22. I don't really understand it either,
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:30 PM
Oct 2020

especially not with a man of his age. He has everything a person could possibly need or want and he is at the end of his life. What does he gain from the kind of crap he pulls as the Senate Majority leader? Is it just a pathological need to always be winning?

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
39. PatSeg....
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:17 PM
Nov 2020

I know! You're absolutely right...He's closer to the end than beginning of his life. He has whatever he wants...I'm just like WTF??? But what REALLY gets me even more are his supporters. People I grew up with in Texas. People I worked with there. The Christians..... It's so disturbing...

brush

(53,741 posts)
7. Yep, when you think about it, he's argurably more powerful than trump...
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:53 PM
Oct 2020

as he's the gatekeeper/denier for not just all legislation passed by the House, but for life-time federal judges, including the Supreme Court.

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
10. Thank you, brush.....
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:56 PM
Oct 2020

I'd agree that he is more powerful than dt. He's done so much harm it's shocking...

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
8. Thank you, CincyDem....
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:54 PM
Oct 2020

That's what others have told me. As I've mentioned, I don't understand the "high" of power.....

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
36. Power lust has infected the GOP, all the way down to the MAGAT hordes.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 04:38 PM
Oct 2020

That's why Turd is constantly using the adjective "powerful" when he is referring to anything he favors. It lathers up the hordes.

Frasier Balzov

(2,639 posts)
3. The demographic trends of the electorate are against the Republican worldview.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:47 PM
Oct 2020

Packing the federal courts is their way of hanging on.

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
15. Frasier Balzov, good point...
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:00 PM
Oct 2020

That leads me to another question regarding the lower courts. Can judges who aren't qualified or who lied under oath be impeached? Also, can those courts be expanded too if/when we have the power?

Frasier Balzov

(2,639 posts)
35. If precedent shall be our guide.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 04:34 PM
Oct 2020

Don't throw litigants, witnesses and counsel in jail capriciously.

Avoid relationships which make you appear less than impartial or reveal you to be corrupt.

Don't drink and hold court.

Don't otherwise become mentally enfeebled according to a medical standard.

https://ballotpedia.org/Impeachment_of_federal_judges



lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
37. Impeachment is impossible unless we take 2/3 of the Senate,
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 04:39 PM
Oct 2020

and that is mathematically impossible this time around. It is probably impossible in electoral terms, for the foreseeable future.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
4. People with a lot of money always want more
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:49 PM
Oct 2020

Why would the Koch's work so hard to protect their cash cow?

And, as someone posted above - power. Plus, winning a huge victory.

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
16. Thank you wryter2000....
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:03 PM
Oct 2020

I get what you're saying about money. Is there speculation that McConnell is someone who's financially benefited from some of the money that Sheldon Whitehouse was talking about?

pandr32

(11,553 posts)
6. He seems to be a huge fan of James Buchanan
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:52 PM
Oct 2020

Some say he was the true architect of the kind of the kind of 'capitalist radical right' politics that have been gradually put in place over many decades.
'Democracy in Chains' is a book that makes the case.

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
17. Thank you, pandr32...
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:05 PM
Oct 2020

Interesting....I know very little about James Buchanan. I'll check him out..

pandr32

(11,553 posts)
38. You're welcome
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 05:25 PM
Oct 2020

The book is hard to put down and it will certainly explain the rotten root of the political right wing.

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
41. pandr32....
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:21 PM
Nov 2020

Thanks for telling me about this book. I'd love to have more of an understanding and it seems like this book will help...

ananda

(28,834 posts)
11. It's most definitely about money and his wife's financial interests..
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:58 PM
Oct 2020

.. along with aiding and abetting whatever Putin wants.

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
18. Thanks, ananda....
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:12 PM
Oct 2020

Yea, for some there just never seems to be enough money.....

I haven't delved into McConnel's possible or probable dealings with Putin and Russia, but of course I know his nickname is "Moscow Mitch."

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
20. He has to keep fighting
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:19 PM
Oct 2020

fighting to the very end, fighting the fear he knows comes from looking into the abyss. He has a lot to fear.

In It to Win It

(8,224 posts)
13. For Mitch and probably many other republicans, it's not about abortion or anything religious.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:59 PM
Oct 2020

However, they will use the abortion issue to get what they want.

I know, with certainty, that Mitch McConnell is for having money in politics. He doesn't want that to change. The judges he picks will likely cement that for him.

As a side bonus, he will also say for the religious fanatics that the judges (who he wants to protect unlimited money in politics) will ALSO protect religious freedoms and ban abortion.

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
23. In It to Win It, thank you.....
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:34 PM
Oct 2020

I completely agree that he uses the abortion and other religious issues for his purposes.

A good friend of mine feels that voting rights and overturning Citizens United are the first things we need to do if/when (I'm superstitious so that's why I've been saying "if/when" ) we get back the Presidency, the Senate, and keep the House. The work that will need to be done to repair the damage and in some cases restructure systems seems overwhelming...

samnsara

(17,604 posts)
14. my dad, bless his heart, always watched military shows on tv...usually on the History channel..
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:00 PM
Oct 2020

...lots about WWll and Hitler. Sometimes I would sit with him and watch them. One of the scariest things I ever heard was Hitler already had 'Generals' in place to take over different parts of America. I feel this is happening now. I just wonder what part of America General McConnell was promised....or General Barr...

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
25. Samnsara, Thank you....
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:44 PM
Oct 2020

I've also watched a lot of documentaries about WWII and Hitler. I didn't know that Hitler already had Generals in place over here. That's terrifying....

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
21. For the same reasons that someone with enough money to last 20 lifetimes spends all their
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:24 PM
Oct 2020

waking hours pursuing more.

For the same reason said billionaires will throw ethics to the side and steamroll over anything and anyone standing in their way of more.

The same reason they can close their eyes to the devastation and suffering their direct actions cause.

In some ways they're not human. In some ways they are. In some ways we all are.

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
26. Doremus...You are SO right about the whole money situation...
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:52 PM
Oct 2020

I simply DON'T get it! One thing we ALL know is that at some point we're going to die. I'm starting to think they aren't human and are really some kind of robots from the dark side. It just doesn't make sense to me

jmbar2

(4,861 posts)
24. I've had the same questions going through my mind
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:37 PM
Oct 2020

What could make him such a horrible person?

Here's a good article that provides some insights. He's basically a machiavellian money grabber. It's about power.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/04/20/how-mitch-mcconnell-became-trumps-enabler-in-chief

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
28. There is no such thing as too much money.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:56 PM
Oct 2020

Money and power that is all they give a shit about. Power leads to money and money leads to power. Two sides of the same coin.

They are killing the ACA because it will give the ultra rich the tiniest of tax cuts.

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
32. Statistical....You're right....
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 04:29 PM
Oct 2020

The abuse of power and the lust after money...... It just makes me sad....

forthemiddle

(1,375 posts)
30. I know many Republicans
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 03:02 PM
Oct 2020

I come from a very purple area, so 1/2 of my friends and family are Republicans, and 1/2 are Democrats.
In 2016 almost every single one of the Republicans said the only reason they were voting for Trump was because of the judges. It has always been the goal of Republicans to remake the Judiciary, and they succeeded. Nothing nefarious, just their political philosophy.

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