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(36,774 posts)Keeping undecideds from getting home is going to make them want to vote Trump?
I don't see the logic.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Related, but not to be confused with iDJT, who is a #FuckingMoron.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Crappy strategies like that is what lost them the Civil War, too.
They just don't have what it takes to pull off anything at all, but they keep trying as if the South will rise again someday.
keithbvadu2
(36,774 posts)They like to be praised.
BComplex
(8,036 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)The Throggs Neck and Whitestone bridges are two big suspension bridges that connect Northern Queens to the Bronx. The Throggs Neck bridge connects the neighborhood of Bayside, Queens to Throggs Neck, in the Bronx. The Whitestone Bridge connects the neighborhood of Whitestone, Queens to the Bronx. Whitestone is probably one of the more conservative neighborhoods in New York City; it has been essentially a white enclave neighborhood until the last 15 years or so, when it's seen increasing immigration from Asian and Latino populations. Already pretty much a reactionary white neighborhood, it has become far more nativist. Whitestone would be one of the few Queens neighborhoods to actually vote for Trump. There's probably not that much different between Whitestone, Queens and some small towns in Western Pennsylvania. Bayside is more mixed (and bigger), but also is fairly conservative in some areas. It has also seen rapidly changing demographics (particularly Asian) since the mid-1990s.
George II
(67,782 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:15 PM - Edit history (1)
....a mile away from either. At the time the Throgs Neck Bridge hadn't been built yet, though. It opened about four or five years later. Both cross Long Island Sound and end up in the South Bronx - the TNB obviously in the Throgs Neck section of the Bronx.
I did my Naval Reserve duty at the Whitestone Naval Reserve Training Center, which I guess is long gone now. I don't recall Whitestone being all that conservative - it was mostly Jewish, as was my neighborhood in Flushing. As you say, it's mostly Asian now, as is Flushing - at first Chinese, now becoming more Korean. Latinos settled further west, in neighborhoods like Corona, Jackson Heights, Woodside, and of course the South Bronx.
Had I not gone to high school in Manhattan (same HS as Jerry Nadler and Grace Meng, two NYC members of the House) I would have gone to Bayside High School, almost in the shadow of the TNB.
The conservative neighborhoods in Queens back then were Astoria and to a lesser extent College Point. But THE absolutely most conservative neighborhood, indeed entire borough, was and is Staten Island. Going there almost seemed like I WAS in the midwest!
I thought it was great when Max Rose won two years ago, that was a huge surprise!
Turin_C3PO
(13,964 posts)Itll go for Trump, no?
George II
(67,782 posts)In 2016 trump got 18% of the vote citywide, but 57% in Staten Island. That's why Rose's win in 2018 was so shocking.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Whitestone was never particularly Jewish; the main ethnic Jewish area near there was the Mitchell-Linden apartments, which was more or less on the border of Whitestone, but still technically Flushing. Whitestone was historically Irish, Italian, and later some Balkans and Greek (after 1980) - mainly white Roman Catholic, which is how it sustained three full Catholic parishes. There were additional Jewish populations in LeHavre (another apartment complex), but the non-apartment residential areas of Whitestone were mainly white non-Jewish until the late 90's. Whitestone has voted conservative in most recent elections. It is probably as conservative as parts of Staten Island.
George II
(67,782 posts)....in elementary school, in a class of 40 students there were only three of us in class - two Italian boys and myself. For perspective, we lived a block from Francis Lewis Boulevard, about 2 blocks from Holy Cross High School.
Coincidentally, there was a guy in my college class in Manhattan who lived only six blocks from me in Whitestone. He was Italian and was VERY (obnoxiously) conservative.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Most Catholics went to Catholic school back then. (St. Luke's, St. Mel's, St. Andrew's and OLBS near where you were, Holy Trinity deeper in Whitestone, although I don't know if Holy Trinity was open back then).
Nac Mac Feegle
(970 posts)Over the 35 + years I've visited her relatives;
Who the hell is Throg, and how did he get a bridge named after his neck???
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Since it first opened to traffic in 1961, the Throgs Neck Bridge has served as a vital link between the Bronx and Queens. Today, amidst all the congestion so characteristic to New York City, the span helps carry over 100,000 vehicles to and from their destinations every day. It might not be the most aesthetic bridge, like the Bronx-Whitestone, located two miles to the west, but its still has a place in the hearts of many New Yorkers who would otherwise be twiddling their thumbs on the Triborough or the Whitestone.
10. Robert Moses Spelled Throgs Neck With One G to Save Money
The Throgs Neck Bridge connects the Throggs Neck section of the Bronx to the Bay Terrace in Queens. The name Throgs Neck or Throggs Neck is derived from John Throckmorton, who established his colony in the area in 1643. In referencing the land, both spellings of the name, with either one of two Gs, are accepted. However, the older and more established residents (pre-1960s) generally tend to go for two Gs.
On the other hand, the Throgs Neck Bridge is definitely spelled with one G thanks to master builder, Robert Moses, who wanted to save money with sign costs. According to Bronx Historian, Lloyd Ultan, the name change meant less paint had to be used on all the signs.
https://untappedcities.com/2016/10/10/the-top-10-secrets-of-throgs-neck-bridge-in-nyc
George II
(67,782 posts)....southbound during rush hour, is to not take I-295 all the way to the bridge. The toll booths can sometimes be way backed up (although it's better with EZ Pass now). So get off the exit about a mile or so before the bridge and take the Throgs Neck Expressway the last mile. There's a quick left turn onto I-295 again that's only a few hundred feet from the toll booths. That can sometimes save a half hour or so!