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(29,556 posts)northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)no matrix
(17 posts)"Country before party" beautiful expressed in the land that we love.
Spazito
(50,253 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,921 posts)I was expecting Hit the Road Jack.
Brother Buzz
(36,409 posts)calimary
(81,192 posts)Goodheart
(5,318 posts)BComplex
(8,029 posts)Thank you, Lincoln Project. You've made this election as bearable as was possible for a bunch of rebels to do, and I appreciate all you've done.
AllaN01Bear
(18,114 posts)thank you The Lincoln Project.
bdamomma
(63,822 posts)Let's make Lady Liberty proud again.
We need to be normal again.
CatMor
(6,212 posts)crickets
(25,959 posts)Then all of a sudden I hear Flip Wilson's voice in my head saying, "Chris gonna find Ray Charles!" Morning made. Likely only people over a certain age will get it, but there you go.
😄
wryter2000
(46,031 posts)He also created "What you see is what you get."
crickets
(25,959 posts)Duppers
(28,117 posts)We LOVE our country. And g.d. those fakes, those know-nothings who claim we don't. It is they who don't love the democracy that built the country.
Indykatie
(3,695 posts)This final one is simply magnificent.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Owl
(3,641 posts)brer cat
(24,544 posts)Beautiful ad!
My Pet Orangutan
(9,224 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,963 posts)The Obamas will always be beloved by people all over the world.
LuvNewcastle
(16,843 posts)They had a lot of patriotic fanfare with Ray Charles doing that song live on the convention floor. Whoever planned that convention that year was a master at manipulating emotions. I never was a Republican, but when I saw that convention, I knew then that the race was over. Reagan was always going to beat Mondale, of course, but that convention with Ray Charles was a fucking barn-burner.
sheshe2
(83,711 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Thank you for everything, Lincoln Project fighters.
C_U_L8R
(44,997 posts)Now let's all vote and win this !!
My Pet Orangutan
(9,224 posts)RGTIndy
(203 posts)Before they turn into the "Oh My God the Deficit is Out of Control! Austerity! Austerity! Austerity! Project". But I'll take it.
My Pet Orangutan
(9,224 posts)RGTIndy
(203 posts)I think you're crazy. But it won't be long until we find out.
My Pet Orangutan
(9,224 posts)they are focused on burning the GOP to the ground. How? In the most effective way. Civil rights. Voting rights. Ethics reform.
RGTIndy
(203 posts)I guess we'll see. I think they had power and influence in the Republican Party and Trump took it from them, and they want it back. But sure, maybe you're right.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)was McCain's campaign manager the first time he ran , then worked on John Kerry's campaign. Reed Galen, another founder said that he's open to working on Democratic campaigns as well. They hated Trump from the start and made their own decision to turn against the Trump Republican party. Trump didn't take shit from them. They're doing fine.
RGTIndy
(203 posts)It should come as a shock to no one. And you are free to form some centrist neocon/neoliberal coalition with them. I don't happen to trust them to be on our side after the election, at least not on the issues that I care about. But maybe I'm wrong. I'm certainly not standing in the way of your love fest.
JI7
(89,244 posts)Hekate
(90,624 posts)...is patriots who love their country. They are patriots who disagree with Democrats on various issues. But they are patriots who recognize Fascism when they see it, and they could see Trump and his cult coming a mile off. No Party name is worth the destruction of the United States as a republic.
Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace sat in the darkened convention hall after Trumps catastrophic acceptance speech and talked for the MSNBC cameras about what they had just witnessed. You know what Steve talked about? The US Constitution. It was as heartfelt and heartbroken a soliloquy as I have ever heard.
When he says the goal of The Lincoln Project is to destroy the GOP as it is today because it has become rotten to its core I believe him.
RGTIndy
(203 posts)But I am a progressive Democrat, and once the election is over, assuming we prevail, I have no interest in their "Third Way" centrism, their supply side economics or their "Dick Cheney was a hero" nonsense. If you think we should be the John McCain Party, more power to you. I don't.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)And I will support ANYONE who is going to help heal Our country.
This includes The Lincoln Project.
And Joe Biden.
I will stand shoulder to shoulder with both of them in SOLIDARITY.
Purity has been put on hold. Hopefully forever.
WE ARE ALL AMERICANS.
Hekate
(90,624 posts)But speaking solely on my own behalf, Ive been a Democrat my entire life: Senator Eugene McCarthy was the first presidential candidate I worked for.
One thing Ive learned: purity tests and purges ensure Democratic losses. Democratic losses means Mitch McConnell remains the Senate Majority Leader and some right wing hack gets to be Speaker of the House. Democrats and other Left of Center voters who sit on their asses in midterm elections, either because they fail to see the importance or they are trying to send a message, ensure that a Democratic POTUS will be crippled.
My interest in purity tests is nil, at this point. If we dont win elections, we will get nothing. If we dont win this election and the next and the next, Fascism will continue to roll over us & you can bid a fond farewell to the republic.
Your characterization of my comment about John McCain is insulting, but I really dont care.
RGTIndy
(203 posts)And I never once said that the work of the Lincoln Project to help us win shouldn't be welcomed and praised. I'm only talking about after the election. If we win and you somehow think we should reward the Lincoln Project by moving to the center, or if you naively believe that the Never Trump Republicans are going to help us with a liberal agenda, well, I don't agree. Count me in for the purity test when it comes to national politics and the new President's agenda. (and no, that doesn't mean we need AOC to run in Omaha). We need a bold progressive agenda, not some third way triangulated bullshit agenda. If you think moderate republican-lite is the way forward to win elections, I think you need to leave the '90's and join us in the '20's. And while it was not my intention to insult you, much like you, I don't really care. As for me having been on DU before, well that's just crazy talk. Of course not.
betsuni
(25,447 posts)agendas -- it's 2020. The Lincoln Project's members aren't elected officials, they work on campaigns. The 2016 platform was the most progressive in history, so's this year's. Kamala Harris has one of the most progressive voting records in the senate. Why would Biden chose her as his VP if he's not progressive? And finally, Republicans won't control the House as they did in the '90s.
Establishment
Centrist
Moderate
Third way
Neoliberal
Triangulation
Republican lite
Progressive Democrat (close enough to FDR Democrat)
Authoritarian
I need "status quo" "corporatist" or "incrementalism" to win at 2016 Clinton/Trump Election bingo.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As you've both summed up and then beat down the petulant catalogue of paper bullets that has been constantly nipping at the heels of the Democratic platform like a littler of over-active puppies since I've been on DU.
betsuni
(25,447 posts)RGTIndy
(203 posts)Im a county vice chair and a max donor and I will GUARANTEE that Ive done more to elect Joe Biden than you have. So dont fucking lecture me. I simply dont think your Republican friends can be trusted once the election is over. But you are free to love anyone you want. I think George W. Bush is a war criminal. Your friends think he is a great man and a great President. They are never going to be my friends. Sorry.
RGTIndy
(203 posts)And Im sure youre a good Democrat and you do more to help the party than make thousands of posts on a message board. Best of luck.
panfluteman
(2,065 posts)Telling Trump to leave the White House. But this is so much more positive than that.
VA_Jill
(9,962 posts)should really be o ur national anthem. I can't sing the other one any more.
Hekate
(90,624 posts)My Pet Orangutan
(9,224 posts)wiggs
(7,811 posts)iluvtennis
(19,843 posts)StarryNite
(9,442 posts)Thank you The Lincoln Project. Your work to make change this election cycle has been outstanding.
Auggie
(31,156 posts)wryter2000
(46,031 posts)Ray Charles takes that song to a heavenly level.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,309 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)calimary
(81,192 posts)Republicans (or whatever becomes of what we've long known as the GOP).
It's been fun. But I think we trust them beyond this point - AT OUR PERIL.
If they aren't or don't become full-on DEMOCRATS, my fear is that they'll go back to a lot of the ideas that make up the lifeblood of the GOP body politick. Cutting taxes for the rich, ignoring everybody else - AND what they need help with, going for the bucks regardless how it harms the ecosystem, shortens life on this planet, and shortens OUR life-expectancy. In other words - "starving the beast." That's how that hideous worshipper of the god of greed and selfishness, Grover Norquist, described it. Cut taxes so we can't pay for programs that help the poor, the sick, the homeless, the needy, the unemployed or underemployed, the general welfare. Oh, yeah. THAT old thing. "... to promote the general welfare ..."
https://www.acslaw.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/ACS_KeepFaith_Chap-4.pdf
Notice, it's "GENERAL welfare," too. NOT "to promote the affluent welfare" or "to promote our friends' and allies' welfare" or "to promote the privileged welfare" or "to promote the pre-selected/pre-determined recipients-whom-WE-find-worthy welfare" or "to promote the welfare exclusively of those who agree with us on the issues".
"... to promote the GENERAL welfare." That means the REST OF US WHO AREN'T YOU AND DON'T LOOK LIKE YOU OR BELIEVE AND WORSHIP YOUR WAY, Republicans.
My Pet Orangutan
(9,224 posts)but I don't see it.
These people are Republicans. bent on burning to the ground, those who betrayed the party of Lincoln.
Clearly fogged in
(1,896 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)betsuni
(25,447 posts)Cha
(297,055 posts)My Pet Orangutan
(9,224 posts)Cha
(297,055 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,587 posts)bdamomma
(63,822 posts)let's get it back again. Please.
Thank you Lincoln Project.
radius777
(3,635 posts)who agree with us on a foundational level (democracy, voting, the rule of law, etc) while disagreeing on policy issues.
Throughout history people who have had ideological or policy differences - when faced with the threat of fascism or authoritarianism - have put their differences aside to fight for the greater good - and that's what TLP is about. They stated they would've even supported Sanders if he was our nominee, who has wide policy differences with TLP but who believes in democracy and the rule of law as they do, and they will continue to support Dems until Trumpism and the GOP who enabled him is destroyed.