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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnybody else troubled that this election is even close,
that so many of our countrymen and women can support such a vile, criminal, ignorant, belligerent POS.
It really makes me question where we are going as a country. And it is a bit depressing .
And don't say it's not close, even if Biden wins by 10 million votes, that is still nearly half the voters for Trump. Way too many in a sane country.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)my only explanation is that the vast majority are simply a cult, brainwashed by decades of fox and rush.
42bambi
(1,753 posts)brainwashing of America. Thankfully, more than half of us knew enough not to watch Fox or listen to Rush. Hubby was in the Air Force for 20 years and he said almost everyone (except him) would listen to Rush - every damn day! He, to this day simply cannot understand what the Hell were they thinking!
Skittles
(153,150 posts)but we will soon know how "close" it is
NorthOf270
(290 posts)Aepps22
(166 posts)As an African American I knew this country was more deplorable than people assumed
jrthin
(4,835 posts)welcome to DU
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)has an 80% chance of serving on juries and no hides. It's just a coincidence of numbers, but it surprised me. A belated welcome to DU Aepps22.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Hell, used to be one in a softer way.
The final alliance of the racist, religious nuts and economic survivalist. They make a potent group. And there are a shit ton of them.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)Phoenix61
(17,002 posts)after everything he has done, would consider voting for him again is mind boggling. Proof racism, misogyny, and other nasty ideas arent as dead as they need to be.
because its not ... even close
tomorrow will tell
✌🏻
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)Trump as soon as possible. They are corrupted for a generation.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)They're all about the power. Full Stop.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)They know one big thing very well (the rich shouldn't pay any taxes).
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)trump is viewed as too hateful, greedy, incompetent, bigoted, etc., by a bigger chunk of population than it appears.
mvd
(65,173 posts)But it is amazing to me that Dump got in the WH. There are some serious stupidity and selfishness problems in the US.
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I often think of the LBJ statement about what a poor White man would allow if he was convinced that he was better than any Black man. I see White people that are pitifully poor being rabid Trump supporters, because he gives them false images of other people, races, nationalities, and they can hate those people.
I think these feelings were there for some, and Trump was the thing that exposed all the racism and hatred.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)costs the economy something like $12 trillion dollars. I didnt read the story, just the headline. I already knew that problem is costly.
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,748 posts)Something happened to me on Nov 9 2016. Anxiety way up, for four years now. Got a prescription to prove it.
But something way worse happened to them, and this country will never be the same again.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)touches on how I felt, that something seriously wrong had happened, that something broke in this country that will never be put back together again.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)I have been ranting that it is disgusting that there is even a hint of a question of who will win... I am mortified that more than a handful of people would consider voting for trump (certainly understandable that a fringe few might live in this country...but)
I am very troubled
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)To me it is a rather clear choice between Good (Joe) and evil (Trump). I have a hard time seeing how anyone can justify supporting evil.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)230,000 Americans dead, and counting, in nine monthsmore people than we lost in the five years of WWII. Children in cages on the border. Civil unrest in our cities due to BLATANT racial bias. 40 million Americans unemployed. A crashed economy ...
NO INCUMBENT should expect to be re-elected under these circumstances, and yes. It pisses me off, to no end, that Trump STILL has as much support as he does.
-Laelth
triron
(21,999 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)Then I'll see how close it was. Obama and Romney was supposed to have been close.
The 2018 midterms were supposed to have been close.
Both were blowouts.
I think it's better to be cautious, but the GOP seems to have lost
women who live in the suburbs and college educated white people.
People are tired of Trump's shit.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)IMO, trump activated the worst in deplorables and those people are just more hateful and unassumingly racist than they were before trump got elected. They have become much more extreme in the last 4 years. I dont recall seeing a credible attempt to kidnap a governor in modern US history.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)He has had far more vilification for a football player who respectfully kneels than murderers and attempted kidnappers. He even has praise for those who engage in vehicular assault.
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)And they're PROUD of it... willing to die for the man who could care less about them...
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Bluepinky
(2,268 posts)Havent felt right for 4 years. I think Biden is a strong candidate and will win tomorrow due to a vigorous turnout. But the next 2-3 months will be bad, Trump will want to take us all down before he goes. 😡
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)The key is the determination to sending it back crawling under the rocks where it tries to hie when it is denied an environment where it can flourish.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)captain queeg
(10,171 posts)I've read a lot of posts here about "followers" who mindlessly believe in some "strong" leader. I'm surprised anyone still thinks he is strong but a lot of people won't admit they were deceived. As it becomes more and more clear what a weak LOSER he is a lot of those types will abandon him.
But after he is gone we'd do well to remember the deep racist hatred they were trying to hide before.
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)I agree and have often wondered how any sane person could actually vote for this asshole without vomiting all over their ballot. And yes, it is depressing.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)This country has never stopped troubling me, to be honest, but it's most depressing now.
Pointless military conflicts, superstitious thinking, racism, growing inequality, etc.
Edit: Most people that I meet disappoint me too.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)saying this is close. Not close, I do not think. I have never seen an election that is so not close.
edhopper
(33,570 posts)where it is very close.
And even 45% nationally is still way too many.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)edhopper
(33,570 posts)Too many Americans.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Americans supporting Trump but the election is not close. I am not going to get into all the reasons there are so many Americans supporting Trump. There are lots of reasons. Just had an hour conversation earlier today about the issue and have been talking about it for months and about tired of it.
edhopper
(33,570 posts)65 million out of 140 million is to close.
Jspur
(578 posts)he cheated but for him to get nearly 50 percent of the votes was ridiculous. I remember being in hschool at the time and thinking how could a guy this stupid nearly get half of the votes that Gore should have won easily by a margin of 80-20. That election to me was an introduction to how stupid this country is. So I'm not shocked that this election will be close.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)... at least Kennedy beat creepy Nixon.
He later delivered newspapers in 1963, and a customer opened his door to read the headline and proclaim his great joy about the assassination too.
RockCreek
(739 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)More that I can possibly say.
Talitha
(6,582 posts)Beartracks
(12,809 posts)msongs
(67,395 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)that many people elect in their districts.
And im very familiar with the bigotry in this country.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)I was a teenager.
Trump is the worst.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)states has me on edge. I know that just about every poll has Biden ahead, but when Nate Silver still says that Trump has a 10% chance it gives me the creeps.
edhopper
(33,570 posts)feeling this.
lettucebe
(2,336 posts)out those he started with. How can this possibly be a close race? Perhaps in the electoral college but certainly not the popular vote. I'm be shocked if he managed to get the same vote tally as before. I think the young vote is going to swing strongly in Biden's direction.
We'll see. I was sure wrong in 2016.
edhopper
(33,570 posts)and that is troubling.
But when you say not close? Last time it was roughly 63 million to 66 million, but even if this is 63 million to 73 million, doesn't almost 65 million Americans voting for this hateful charlatan disturb you.
I don't see 8% or 10% comforting. Yes that would be a great victory, but it is a vote between a good man and a waste of a human life.