national popular vote compact -- suggested modification:

[unblock]

the national popular vote compact is an idea of effectively replacing the electoral college vote with a popular vote not by abolishing the electoral college (which would require a nearly impossible to ratify constitutional amendment), but rather by having enough states simply allocate their electoral votes to the winner of the national vote instead of the winner of the state vote.

if states having at least 270 electoral votes agreed to do this, then the popular vote winner would be guaranteed to be the electoral vote winner.


i think this is a cool idea, but it has a problem in that it's not stable. say we get to that point and states with just over 270 electoral votes agree to do this. great! but then what if one state that agreed decides, hey, our state is about to go for the other guy, and if we back out of the compact, then our preferred guy can win. there's nothing stopping this and any such state has a motivation to back out, ruining the whole plan.

so here's my modification: the states in the compact agree to allocate their votes according the the popular vote winner among *just the states in the compact*, not the entire nation. that's hardball, but it means that as soon as enough states agree to do this that gives us 270 electoral votes, the remaining states immediately become entirely irrelevant unless they agree to join the compact.

so as soon as we get to the tipping point, all the other states would immediately join, making the arrangement very hard to reverse.


is there any problem with this modification?

[SheltieLover]

1. Sounds great!

[SheltieLover]

2. Here's the thing nobody is talking about

If repukes want to win, then they need to take actions that are GOOD for the people of this country!
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Shitstain is running on hate to mesnerize his covididiots.

Voters are smarter this time, thankfully

[HelpImSurrounded]

3. Here's why it won't work.

As long as it is based on the popular vote of the whole nation, it is unique.

If you do what you suggest, you open the door for counter pacts. Now you can have state voting groups with states switch pacts in an attempt to "capture" states whose votes would otherwise be against them.

For example, NPVIC I is established but a state leaves leaving them with only 260 votes.

That state has a GOP government. It joins NPVIC II. NPVIC II has 1 or more states that are reliably blue but now has a red government. NPVIC II has effectively captured and nullified those states because they won't leave for NPVIC I as long as their government is red.

Eventually you've got RedPact and BluePact and no hope that majority will is fulfilled.