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(983 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)That means the state polls are going to be off, too. We can still win this but it will be very close.
spooky3
(34,441 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)Weve been underperforming or at the very bottom of the MOE.
Look at the last polls in FL - Biden was up by about 4, hes down by about 3 in reality. That is a 7 point swing.
The polls had Biden with a roughly 8 point national popular vote lead. With 80 million votes in (likely half or more), Trump is up by 2% in the national popular vote.
Sure, that will change as big blue states come in... but it isnt going to be anywhere NEAR 8 points nationally for Joe. Theres no way that this is going to be anything but incredibly close.
Hyper_Eye
(675 posts)Republicans always have a lead in the popular vote at this point.
spooky3
(34,441 posts)spooky3
(34,441 posts)Those are not great odds.
We all knew that the national popular vote doesn't matter in determining the election. Yes, California and other blue states have not been counted, AND many votes have not been counted in other states--e.g., in Virginia, which AP has called for Biden, the votes counted so far still show Trump winning -- because many blue areas haven't been counted yet. Chances are that the national popular vote will be much closer to the prediction than what you are now seeing.
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)if it gets us to 270.
electric_blue68
(14,888 posts)I was going to say:
"I'll take a little blue creek".
gracemcdonald
(89 posts)LizBeth
(9,952 posts)until each individual circumstance plays out.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)would take time to count, and would heavily favor Democrats. And now why are they in such a rush to call these states. How have they had time to count all the mail-in ballots?
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)I agree with you,. We were told this would happen and here we are forgetting that we were told. We wanted easy blue wave and skip this part. I will wait until I hear on those two issues.
Ace Rothstein
(3,161 posts)LizBeth
(9,952 posts)possibly and the judge tomorrow is going to have conversation because they were suppose to sweep the post offices and refused.
Ace Rothstein
(3,161 posts)Trump won FL. We'll see about GA.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)off with shit going on.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)As long as I don't have to see Trump.
Skid Rogue
(711 posts)Hugin
(33,135 posts)A damning referendum.
Bradshaw3
(7,515 posts)HRC built a 3 million vote lead once the West coast results came in. Remember in 2018 that it wasn't a blue wave according to many, but once all the votes were counted it was a blue wave.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)because of our ridiculous antiquated system.
Bradshaw3
(7,515 posts)Democrats took the House in 2018. Also the stands that votes are outstanding.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)and the House couldn't get a over 400 bills even to the Senate floor for a vote because of the Republican controlled senate. Which will be the same situation after this election if we do not flip 2 more senate seats.
Bradshaw3
(7,515 posts)Let's wait till it's over before becoming morose.
Windy City Charlie
(1,178 posts)Trump needed so many states where he was polling behind and he's picking each one of them off, just like he did in 2016.
Winning is winning.
Sunsky
(1,737 posts)I don't give a damn about how big the win was.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)I'm deeply disgusted in American voters.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)onetexan
(13,037 posts)Beartracks
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