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Celerity

(43,316 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:56 AM Nov 2020

IF Peters hangs on in MI, it looks like the best we can do is 50-50 (if Bullock wins, Collins loses

AL Jones lost (as expected)

so we are at 46

we won in CO and AZ

so we are at 48

now the bad news

SC Graham romped to a win (polls were dead wrong)
NC (AGAIN) Tillis looks to have eked out a win (Cunningham sex scandal fucked him, it look like, another one the polls were fucked on)
IA Pigfucker Ernst won
KS Bollier got beaten (sibelius would have had a much better shot, not happy with her at all)
TN we got blown away (so raging, as I have been for a year, that Tim McGraw has now TWICE turned down running for open seats in a 2 year period, after promising for a decade plus he would run when he is 50yo (he is 53 now)
KY Traitor McTurtle won
TX Hegar lost
GA Ossoff looks to have lost
GA Special. Warnock made the runoff, but only got 29% or so, he will get pounded in the runoff I fear by the criminal slag Loeffler

wild card

Gross in Alaska, but that is a real long shot


this leaves us needing Peters to hang on, and he is trailing atm (Detroit hopefully cares him over the top)



and then Bullock and Gideon need to win


to get to 50-50

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IF Peters hangs on in MI, it looks like the best we can do is 50-50 (if Bullock wins, Collins loses (Original Post) Celerity Nov 2020 OP
collins appears to be thumping gideon nt msongs Nov 2020 #1
MSNBC has said all night that ranked choice voting will doom Collins Celerity Nov 2020 #3
Ossoff could get a runoff as well jcgoldie Nov 2020 #2
perhaps but the margin is fairly big, I hope you are right Celerity Nov 2020 #5
Its the same 300 k that Biden is down by jcgoldie Nov 2020 #9
Looks like Collins is gonna win ybbor Nov 2020 #4
Ranked choice voting may save us there Celerity Nov 2020 #6
I know ybbor Nov 2020 #10
not looking good for that Amishman Nov 2020 #12
if she (Collins) is at 50% + 1 vote after the initial vote, then its over, correct? Celerity Nov 2020 #18
Any chance that the early votes haven't been counted yet? Polybius Nov 2020 #7
As a Michigander.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2020 #8
I think he'll win, but we will see. n/t demmiblue Nov 2020 #11
Isn't it about the same as the Trump vote? qanda Nov 2020 #13
I'm Saying... LovingA2andMI Nov 2020 #15
Crap so there is a chance Biden could lose MI helpisontheway Nov 2020 #16
It would be because of backlash against Whitmer and the lockdowns nt maryellen99 Nov 2020 #20
Kornacke and Carville said the vote coming in now is radius777 Nov 2020 #23
Well....We Will See BUT... LovingA2andMI Nov 2020 #26
Remember, there are still millions of votes to be counted. radius777 Nov 2020 #29
if Peters goes down, and/or McConnell is the Majority leader, Biden is fucked, SCOTUS is fucked Celerity Nov 2020 #17
It really hurts that someone as unqualified as Ernst beat a smart person like Greenfield. madaboutharry Nov 2020 #14
I am pissed at Tim McGraw in TN, Sibelius in KS, Stein and/or Foxx in NC (Cunningham and his Celerity Nov 2020 #19
I read on another board that Biden's comments about energy/climate change radius777 Nov 2020 #27
Bullock loses. demmiblue Nov 2020 #21
yes, and Collins will win, so we are FUCKED Celerity Nov 2020 #22
Yeah, those of us who rely on the ACA are fucked... demmiblue Nov 2020 #24
Can't believe how Collins would win, radius777 Nov 2020 #25
Maine elected that shitehawk nazi LePage as governor Celerity Nov 2020 #28

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
9. Its the same 300 k that Biden is down by
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:02 AM
Nov 2020

NYT thinks thats surmountable... in fact Ossoff is in a much better position because he doesnt need to win just get Perdue under 50%.

Amishman

(5,555 posts)
12. not looking good for that
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:09 AM
Nov 2020

She's at 50.4%, 80% reporting, and the lower reporting % counties are red.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
8. As a Michigander....
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:01 AM
Nov 2020

Peters down by 350K+ at this point is a LOST even if Detroit comes in at strong. Sorry, it's just not enough as it is not like John James is not going to get ANY VOTES in Detroit. This Michigan seat is likely a goner.

That sucks for Peters. He's a good guy but his campaign here was just not it this year.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
15. I'm Saying...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:12 AM
Nov 2020

It's Looking VERY tight and when it was VERY tight in 2016, we were QUITE disappointed.

Michigan is either CLEAR or It's Not. There is not a "Middle" as a voter here for over 35 years.

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
16. Crap so there is a chance Biden could lose MI
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:24 AM
Nov 2020

I really thought Michigan would be blue. Especially with a popular governor. Ugh

radius777

(3,635 posts)
23. Kornacke and Carville said the vote coming in now is
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:16 AM
Nov 2020

'same day' voting which leans red, but the next batches are going to be heavily blue. Carville said he spoke w/Granholm (former Michigan governor) and they feel good Biden (and I would think Peters as well) will pull it out.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
26. Well....We Will See BUT...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:27 AM
Nov 2020

Here's the thing. The Peters/James race, Peters SHOULD be A LOT closer. The worry is Detroit at this point. To be frank, James does not have to win or overwhelming take Detroit. He just has to shave off votes and yes, some Detroiters who are African-American MIGHT vote for James because, he is a empty suit and African-American.

Crossing my fingers for Gary but the numbers ARE WORRISOME. Period.

As fo Biden, Split Ticket in Urbanized areas. He must be the Split from this point forward. Chance at this point 50/50.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
29. Remember, there are still millions of votes to be counted.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:36 AM
Nov 2020
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-us-election-results/michigan#president
....
Michigan may not report a winner on election night, and the secretary of state has indicated that processing early votes could means results aren’t close to final until Friday, Nov. 6. Early returns in Michigan have often skewed to the right, as Democratic-leaning Detroit tends to be among the last areas to return ballots.
....
How many votes have been counted?
3.81M out of 5.03-5.56M estimated total votes
Michigan is currently midway through the vote-counting process. Bloomberg News estimates that between 69% and 76% of the votes state-wide have been counted. Of the votes that remain to be counted, a majority of them come from places that leaned Democratic in 2016.


It's not just Detroit but also suburbs, which have trended blue all over the country.

Celerity

(43,316 posts)
17. if Peters goes down, and/or McConnell is the Majority leader, Biden is fucked, SCOTUS is fucked
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:24 AM
Nov 2020

any major legislation is fucked


and gaining seats in 2022 is not a given

our best shots will be (bold are best)

North Carolina open
PA Toomey

FL (Rubio)
IA open unless Grassley runs as a 89 year old
GA special winner in 2020
WI Johnson (omg, he needs to GO)

but we have some to defend too (I do not see losing any f these, maybe 1 at most)

NV, NH, CO, AZ, VT (might be open and the popular Rethug VT governor might run)


It is going to be INSANE hostility if the Rethugs control the Senate. Biden will be utterly kneecapped.

If Breyer retires or dies, the court will stay 6 -2 hard RW as long as they have control of the Senate. Same thing if Sotomayor dies (chronic diabetes that is getting worse), it could be 6-1 hard RW for ages

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
14. It really hurts that someone as unqualified as Ernst beat a smart person like Greenfield.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:11 AM
Nov 2020

Republicans have the worst people.

Celerity

(43,316 posts)
19. I am pissed at Tim McGraw in TN, Sibelius in KS, Stein and/or Foxx in NC (Cunningham and his
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:34 AM
Nov 2020

sex scandal never would have happened, Tillis was a sitting duck), Susan Rice in Maine, Vilsack in Iowa, Sally Yates and Abrams in GA, and Begich (ex Senator) in Alaska. ALL refused to run and all were the best candidates (flip a coin between Stein and Foxx).

Beto I will give a pass on, as Cornyn was never going to lose.

I was on this for well over year here on DU.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
27. I read on another board that Biden's comments about energy/climate change
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:30 AM
Nov 2020

in the debate may've shifted the dynamics of the race, as the last few polls showed movement away from what it was all along, a tie, to an easy win for the R's.

demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
24. Yeah, those of us who rely on the ACA are fucked...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:21 AM
Nov 2020

as well as those with private insurance who also benefit from it's protections. Millions upon millions will be affected.

Yes, I know that the fate of the ACA is pretty much a done deal, but now there is no hope for something comparable.

All judicial appointments will be blocked, including any potential Supreme Court seat. Etc.

The Senate will block legislation that actually helps people. People will then get frustrated about the government. Then we have to deal with the FUCKING ELECTORAL COLLEGE in four years.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
25. Can't believe how Collins would win,
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:24 AM
Nov 2020

she's terrible. Wonder what Maine voters like in her. Gideon seems so much better. And Biden likely will carry Maine by a solid margin.

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