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applegrove

(118,600 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 05:34 AM Nov 2020

This time the pre-election polls were used like the exit polls in 2004.

Seems shy republucans just can't help from lying making it look like a democratic sure win come election day, motivating republicans to get out and vote all the while relaxing democrats on election day. In 2004 it was called the 'shy elephant' phenominon and it was exit polls that were punped up for democrats falsly. That is lying. Kerry was given the win by 2PM on election day. Thise exit polls were wrong. Democrats stayed home from voting at the end of the day. Bush ended up winning. Nobody would publish actual exit poll vote tallies during elections after that.

This time we were warned of 'shy republicans' a week or so before election day. Once again republicans were obviously lying to pollsters en mass. And they put out the meme that it was shyness, not collusion to create a false election narrative. They will try to get us to blame the machines like they did in 2004 too.

The common denominator is Karl Rove running both elections for the Republican presidential incumbants. We are going to have to ignore polling in elections to come. Or make them illegal.

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This time the pre-election polls were used like the exit polls in 2004. (Original Post) applegrove Nov 2020 OP
Yep.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2020 #1
Nope, these are 6 - 12% polling swings AFTER weighting Towards Trump ... there's something wrong uponit7771 Nov 2020 #2
Nah, stay skeptical Mersky Nov 2020 #3

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
1. Yep....
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 05:36 AM
Nov 2020

The Pollsters were lied too, YET AGAIN and they kept publishing the BS anyway to keep the "horserace" going.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
2. Nope, these are 6 - 12% polling swings AFTER weighting Towards Trump ... there's something wrong
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 05:39 AM
Nov 2020

... and people lying isn't going to cut it this time.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
3. Nah, stay skeptical
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 05:39 AM
Nov 2020

I’m seeing some bs with mail-in ballot counts and the waiting on them. Now is not the time to analyze what rove did or did not do.

There’s 236,000 reasons to question how things are going in various states.

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