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What will they call joe if he only gets 270 EC Votes? (Original Post) getagrip_already Nov 2020 OP
President Biden and Vice-President Harris obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #1
😂😂😂 In It to Win It Nov 2020 #2
If Joe wins, the worst he would do is 271, not 269. 269 would be a tie, and it would still_one Nov 2020 #3
No. 269 would be a tie, 270 is a win. nt Alex4Martinez Nov 2020 #5
Correct. Thanks. My screw-up. My point was that this would not end up in a tie still_one Nov 2020 #11
no, you have it wrong, 269-269 is the tie, there is no scenario left for 271, only 270 Celerity Nov 2020 #12
I realize Celerity. I messed up in regard to tie, which I will edit, and also still_one Nov 2020 #14
no problem, lol, the 269-269 tie & state delegation breakdown has been my thing for a year plus here Celerity Nov 2020 #17
and it is the delegation breakdown that many do not understand, which I have seen you still_one Nov 2020 #20
we got hammered in FL, our only shot, I had been posting about FL-15 being our only chance to Celerity Nov 2020 #25
There is a scenario for 271... SidDithers Nov 2020 #29
ME-2 is more than likely going to Trump, he has (per MSNBC) a 22,000 vote, almost 8 point Celerity Nov 2020 #31
Got it... SidDithers Nov 2020 #32
it still COULD flip (I hope it does) but it is not looking good (unlike all the rest of ones still Celerity Nov 2020 #33
My math says if Joe gets 270 then Trump gets 264. No tie. mtnsnake Nov 2020 #13
I errord 270 as a tie, and others correctly pointed out a tie would be 269. It won't still_one Nov 2020 #16
270-268 TwilightZone Nov 2020 #23
Help me out here mtnsnake Nov 2020 #26
There's one in Maine undeclared even though they show it blue. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #27
Thanks! mtnsnake Nov 2020 #28
They will call itcfish Nov 2020 #4
Mr. President. And they'll call 45 Mr. One-term. SKKY Nov 2020 #6
They'll call Trump Inmate #45 lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #19
Mr. President. Tommymac Nov 2020 #7
President. Saboburns Nov 2020 #8
Mr. President samsingh Nov 2020 #9
President Biden. kairos12 Nov 2020 #10
Inmate number one - please... n/t getagrip_already Nov 2020 #15
Inmate 88, as he always wanted to be the new Hitler Celerity Nov 2020 #21
Yes, in January Leith Nov 2020 #18
We were always going to start the race miles behind the starting line. None of the GOP Neema Nov 2020 #22
Joe and Kamala need to govern. Period. NCDem47 Nov 2020 #24
"Landslide Joe" yellowcanine Nov 2020 #30
When all of the votes are counted in a state, the news agencies will call the state. Politicub Nov 2020 #34

In It to Win It

(8,228 posts)
2. 😂😂😂
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 10:43 AM
Nov 2020

I was gonna answer President of the United States

I don’t care if he wins by a hairline fracture, that’s enough of a landslide for me

still_one

(92,110 posts)
3. If Joe wins, the worst he would do is 271, not 269. 269 would be a tie, and it would
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 10:44 AM
Nov 2020

go to the House where we would lose because of the way delegations are allocated to the states.

That won't happen. There will NOT be a tie

still_one

(92,110 posts)
11. Correct. Thanks. My screw-up. My point was that this would not end up in a tie
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 10:47 AM
Nov 2020

though I stated wrong

Thanks for pointing it out


Celerity

(43,248 posts)
12. no, you have it wrong, 269-269 is the tie, there is no scenario left for 271, only 270
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 10:48 AM
Nov 2020

and its not delegates are allocated to the states

it is state delegations in the House

each state gets 1 vote

26 to win

the Rethugs have 26 now guaranteed (as we failed to claw back the only one we had a shot at, FL), and they maybe will end up with27 or 28 (depending if they claw back MI or the now tied PA delegations)

still_one

(92,110 posts)
14. I realize Celerity. I messed up in regard to tie, which I will edit, and also
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 10:50 AM
Nov 2020

delegations not delegates

Thanks


Celerity

(43,248 posts)
17. no problem, lol, the 269-269 tie & state delegation breakdown has been my thing for a year plus here
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 10:54 AM
Nov 2020

plus the crazy way Pelosi could use Article 1, Section 5 powers to block a Trump win in the House (which would start a civil war, perhaps, not joking)

I have made way too many posts on it all!!

hugz

still_one

(92,110 posts)
20. and it is the delegation breakdown that many do not understand, which I have seen you
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 10:56 AM
Nov 2020

explain in multiple threads

and people should appreciate what you are doing. I do

Celerity

(43,248 posts)
25. we got hammered in FL, our only shot, I had been posting about FL-15 being our only chance to
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:06 AM
Nov 2020

flip a FL seat, and FL-15 was instantly called for the Rethug, so it was all pointless after that

it also tipped me off that we were in deep shit in FL overall (we lost 2 seats on top of that, FL-26 and FL-27, Shalala in 27 was a surprise) plus Rump won it for POTUS (which I did call in my final map)

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
29. There is a scenario for 271...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:27 AM
Nov 2020

He's at 227 now:

NV - 6 (leading)
AZ - 11 (still to be called)
MI - 16 (leading)
WI - 10 (leading)

That's 43 EVs and gets Biden to 270.

There's one EV still to be awarded in Maine. If he gets that he's 271.

But that lonely EV is just gravy.

Sid

Celerity

(43,248 posts)
31. ME-2 is more than likely going to Trump, he has (per MSNBC) a 22,000 vote, almost 8 point
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:06 PM
Nov 2020

lead with 87% counted the last time I saw.

That is why I said no real path to 271.

cheers

Celerity

(43,248 posts)
33. it still COULD flip (I hope it does) but it is not looking good (unlike all the rest of ones still
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:21 PM
Nov 2020

up in the air, barring NC POTUS and NC Senate and Alaska Senate)

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
26. Help me out here
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:19 AM
Nov 2020

Even with your correction, I'm now coming up with 270 to 267.

NYT says there are 98 remaining votes, including the 3 from Alaska, but I'm only coming up with 97. Where am I missing that one remaining vote that would make it 538 total?

TwilightZone

(25,451 posts)
27. There's one in Maine undeclared even though they show it blue.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:22 AM
Nov 2020

If you hover over Maine, it says Biden 3 EV with Maine having 4 total.

They should probably do the red/blue stripe thing like other sites, because it's a bit confusing. They show NE red even though Biden won an EV.

SKKY

(11,802 posts)
6. Mr. President. And they'll call 45 Mr. One-term.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 10:46 AM
Nov 2020

And it's going to sting him sooooooo badly. I can't wait.

Leith

(7,808 posts)
18. Yes, in January
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 10:54 AM
Nov 2020

Until then, he's President Elect Biden.

I just googled "current presidential election results" and Biden has 69,460,135 votes (50.1%)with 238 electoral votes. da chump has 67,000,671 votes (48.3%) with 213 electoral votes. That is at the time I posted this.

That makes Biden the popular and electoral vote lead as of 6:54am PST.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
22. We were always going to start the race miles behind the starting line. None of the GOP
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:01 AM
Nov 2020

malfeasance from previous elections has been fixed, and the GOP has spent the last 4 years dreaming up more ways to cheat. My feeling is that even a 270 win reflects a landslide of actual votes.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
24. Joe and Kamala need to govern. Period.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:06 AM
Nov 2020

G W Bush "won" after Florida and never looked back after the election.

We should do the same.

Like football, a win by one point is a win.

I don't give a rat's ass what Trump or McConnell say or do.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
34. When all of the votes are counted in a state, the news agencies will call the state.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:23 PM
Nov 2020

And, once Biden crosses the 270+ electoral vote threshold with enough states, he will be declared the winner, even if there are states that are still counting. It would be ideal if Biden gets over 270k without needing PA, since that's one of the states that Trump is targeting for stopping the vote. So far, the courts have allowed the counting to continue.

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