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update on the Judge Sullivan USPS hearing. Thanks.
jmbar2
(4,874 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,702 posts)hlthe2b
(102,234 posts)This is from this morning's article. I'll have to see if there is any update:
The Postal Service reported the timely processing which includes most mail-handling steps outside of pickup and delivery of 93.3 percent of ballots on Election Day, its best processing score in several days, but still well below the 97-percent target that postal and voting experts say the agency should hit.
The Postal Service processed 115,630 ballots on Tuesday, a volume much lower than in recent days after weeks of warnings about chronic mail delays. Of that number, close to 8,000 ballots were not processed on time, a small proportion but one that could factor heavily in states such as Michigan and Wisconsin, which do not accept ballots after Election Day and could be decided by a few thousand votes.
Earlier Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan of the District of Columbia had ordered the Postal Service to sweep 12 postal processing facilities that cover 15 states for ballots. But the agency rebuffed that order and said it would stick to its own inspection schedule, which voting rights advocates worried was too late in the day for found ballots to make it to vote counters.
The directive came after the Postal Service disclosed that more than 300,000 ballots nationwide could not be traced. Those ballots received entry bar code scans at processing facilities, but not exit scans. The agency said the likelihood of that many ballots being misplaced was very low; mail clerks had been ordered to sort ballots by hand in many locations, and items that were pulled out for expedited delivery were not given an exit scan.
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We know yesterday that if the sweeps were doing their job, mail that was identified as ballots and were in the system should have been pulled out and delivered, and it may be that affects what we see as the scores, said Allison Zieve, an attorney representing the NAACP, which brought the lawsuit against the Postal Service with other civil and voting rights groups. The problem is, in part because of the timing and in part because they havent given us all the information we asked for, its hard to know whether the numbers we saw today the low scores for example in Atlanta and Central Pennsylvania its hard to assess how big a problem that is.
Superimpose that on the blue and red electoral map and... Al Gore's 6th grade classmate might say .. "Did they ever fit together...?"
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)a subscription to, had this beginning visible that you may already have seen:
U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan said "someone may have a price to pay" after the USPS failed to comply with an Election Day order he issued on the quick delivery of any remaining mail-in ballots.
By Jacqueline Thomsen | November 04, 2020 at 01:12 PM
A federal judge in Washington, D.C., Wednesday angrily spoke out against the U.S. Postal Services failure to comply with an order he issued Election Day meant to make sure mail-in ballots were delivered on time, saying he would eventually call on Postmaster General Louis DeJoy to appear in his court.
Sedona
(3,769 posts)By Jacob Bogage and Christopher Ingraham
November 4, 2020 at 12:19 PM EST
Nearly 7 percent of ballots in U.S. Postal Service sorting facilities on Tuesday were not processed on time for submission to election officials, according to data the agency filed Wednesday in federal court, potentially leaving hundreds of thousands of ballots caught in the mail system during an especially tight presidential race.
The Postal Service reported the timely processing which includes most mail-handling steps outside of pickup and delivery of 93.3 percent of ballots on Election Day, its best processing score in several days, but still well below the 97-percent target that postal and voting experts say the agency should hit.
The Postal Service processed 115,630 ballots on Tuesday, a volume much lower than in recent days after weeks of warnings about chronic mail delays. Of that number, close to 8,000 ballots were not processed on time, a small proportion but one that could factor heavily in states such as Michigan and Wisconsin, which do not accept ballots after Election Day and could be decided by a few thousand votes.
Earlier Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan of the District of Columbia had ordered the Postal Service to sweep 12 postal processing facilities that cover 15 states for ballots. But the agency rebuffed that order and said it would stick to its own inspection schedule, which voting rights advocates worried was too late in the day for found ballots to make it to vote counters.
Baitball Blogger
(46,702 posts)Yonnie3
(17,434 posts)Lots of quotes of the Judge on Twitter
Nothing about today on either source
Yonnie3
(17,434 posts)Nov. 4, 2020, 1:26 PM
Postmaster General Louis DeJoy may have to testify under oath about his agencys failure to follow court orders to avoid delivery disruptions for mail-in ballots during the election.
U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan in Washington said at a hearing Wednesday that he was shocked at the behavior, including not completing a mandatory sweep of mail-processing facilities to look for undelivered ballots by 3 p.m. on Election Day.
At some point, the postmaster is either going to have to be deposed or appear before me and testify under oath, Sullivan said. The court has been very clear that it expects full compliance with its orders.
Sullivan blasted the U.S. Postal Services legal team for failing to notify him promptly once the agency realized it couldnt meet the deadline he set for conducting the sweep of facilities in more than a dozen troubled regions, including many in Democratic-leaning urban areas or swing states.
The court would have been very sensitive to any complaints that it was impossible to comply with the order, Sullivan said. It just leaves a bad taste in everyones mouth for the clock to run out, game over. There was not compliance with a very important court order.
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