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This is why I think there is cheating. NC Cal Cunningham - look at his polls (Original Post) Maraya1969 Nov 2020 OP
Similar to Susan Collins Ananda62 Nov 2020 #1
How many VBM ballots were delayed in NC? YessirAtsaFact Nov 2020 #2
27% missing in Miami Dade. True Blue American Nov 2020 #14
his sexting and affair hurt him JI7 Nov 2020 #3
K&R, Voter suppression works and pollsters minimize its efficacy uponit7771 Nov 2020 #4
And Biden was slightly favored also n/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #5
Yeah, hard to explain that happening with so many coti Nov 2020 #6
Dejoy sabotage aeromanKC Nov 2020 #7
It's apparent vollehosen Nov 2020 #8
That, and Cooper won by over 200,000 votes. I don't believe Trump or Tillis blm Nov 2020 #9
How does Cooper have 150,000 more votes than Biden? marie999 Nov 2020 #20
I get the suspicion, but it's like watching a boxing match. Almost every loser was robbed. Hoyt Nov 2020 #10
There is no doubt some cheating, but expect to hear that Trump supporters were energized to come out andym Nov 2020 #11
the polls are wrong everywhere BainsBane Nov 2020 #12
It's all over the place Ohio was 8% off Michigan Pennsylvania and Wisconsin Tribetime Nov 2020 #13
Machines are rigged. We're going to keep scratching our heads and rainin Nov 2020 #15
Joe just took Wisconsin! True Blue American Nov 2020 #16
Republicans either lie in polls or cheat at the polls elias7 Nov 2020 #17
Cal Cunningham hasn't conceded. There are more ballots to come in. It's not looking good , though octoberlib Nov 2020 #18
Is a given for at least 40 years that if reTHUG is involved in an election there is indeed abqtommy Nov 2020 #19
I don't think sexting helped him, do you? LisaL Nov 2020 #21
Moscow Mitch may have done a deal with Putin to retain power... ElementaryPenguin Nov 2020 #22

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
2. How many VBM ballots were delayed in NC?
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:13 PM
Nov 2020

Are there enough of them to make a difference? Needs to be looked at.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
14. 27% missing in Miami Dade.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:19 PM
Nov 2020

Judge Emmett Sullivan was have a hearing today. He ordered DeJoy to get them out!

Someone is going to be indicted for this.

JI7

(89,233 posts)
3. his sexting and affair hurt him
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:13 PM
Nov 2020

but that doesn't mean there wasn't cheating.

But he did go down in polls after the above.

coti

(4,612 posts)
6. Yeah, hard to explain that happening with so many
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:14 PM
Nov 2020

of our candidates. Seems more likely to me that there was consistent anti-Dem cheating to me than somehow all the polls were wrong for weeks and months.

vollehosen

(130 posts)
8. It's apparent
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:14 PM
Nov 2020

That there is a systematic polling error in Republicans' favor this year. Whatever adjustments were made based on 2016 were not sufficient. I see no reason to trust any of the polls this cycle (for President or Senator) at this point.

blm

(112,996 posts)
9. That, and Cooper won by over 200,000 votes. I don't believe Trump or Tillis
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:14 PM
Nov 2020

won legally.

Rethgs knew if they tried to include stealing governorship that it would be completely unbelievable.

andym

(5,442 posts)
11. There is no doubt some cheating, but expect to hear that Trump supporters were energized to come out
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:15 PM
Nov 2020

and vote more than even in 2016-- and they under polled due to resistance to polling and lying.
As for the cheating, we will find out if the USPS etc played a role.

BainsBane

(53,010 posts)
12. the polls are wrong everywhere
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:16 PM
Nov 2020

Fuck polls and fuck pollsters. If I never see another as long as I live, it will be too soon.

Tribetime

(4,681 posts)
13. It's all over the place Ohio was 8% off Michigan Pennsylvania and Wisconsin
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:17 PM
Nov 2020

Or way off it's just not right there's no way all those polls are wrong they have to investigate

rainin

(3,010 posts)
15. Machines are rigged. We're going to keep scratching our heads and
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:21 PM
Nov 2020

suggesting stupid theories like "shy voters" and losing elections until we face this fact. Check out this article on the topic. We're no where near secure at this point. https://www.wired.com/story/voting-machine-makers-hackers-ess/

elias7

(3,990 posts)
17. Republicans either lie in polls or cheat at the polls
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:33 PM
Nov 2020

In fact, in my experience this is the chief difference between Democrats and Republicans. Republicans believe that the ends justify the means and so therefore have no compunction about lying or cheating. Democrats believe the ends do not justify the means and are generally honest.

The reason they became a Democrat was first and foremost that I thought most Republicans that I have met are assholes, and most Democrats I have met are pretty decent people. One group is selfish and lacking empathy. The other group will place the needs of others above their own.

The sad politics of it are that the Republicans have been successful in convincing poor and middle-class white people that somehow their policies - which basically favor the rich and screw everyone else - are in their own best interest. They’ve done this by using abortion, the Second Amendment, taxes (most people do not even make enough money to either pay taxes or have it substantially impacted by tax policies of either party), socialism (what the F does that even mean?), etc. it is easier to Gish gallop a bunch of lies and appeal to someone’s emotion than to try to unpack this jibberish in a rational manner that actually requires some thought.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
22. Moscow Mitch may have done a deal with Putin to retain power...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 04:15 PM
Nov 2020

Or GOP operatives hacked it themselves.

Perhaps they ended up throwing Trump under the bus - leaving him vulnerable.

Now Moscow Mitch will be the GOP party leader once again.

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