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FXN has Arizona called for Biden (Original Post) Shermann Nov 2020 OP
This happened many hours ago. PTWB Nov 2020 #1
I think the call was too early exboyfil Nov 2020 #4
Their decision desk is pretty independent. PTWB Nov 2020 #6
AP called it too JonLP24 Nov 2020 #9
This says that Fox can see the handwriting on the wall... brooklynite Nov 2020 #2
LittleFingers must have gone ballistic when he heard Faux say that. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2020 #3
I don't think so LeftInTX Nov 2020 #8
It will probably be settled by tonight.... getagrip_already Nov 2020 #5
The Fox News website is "interesting" LeftInTX Nov 2020 #7
 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
1. This happened many hours ago.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 05:52 PM
Nov 2020

It’s still very close. This is what 538 says:

Arizona. We may need to do a longer post on Arizona later. What’s left to count is mostly mail votes that were returned late in the process — on Monday or Tuesday. There’s some ambiguity about how many ballots this actually is; Edison Research seems to think around 450,000. If so, Trump would need to win those votes by 21 points to overtake Biden’s current 93,000-vote lead. They’re disrupted fairly evenly throughout the state.

Wait — outstanding mail votes? Shouldn’t those be good for Biden, as in other states? Well, not necessarily, because Republicans have a fairly strong mail voting program in Arizona and — this is the key part — the mail ballots that were returned later in the process (the ones yet to be continued) were significantly redder than the ones that came in earlier on, as Democrats sent their votes in early. For instance, the party registration of the votes that came in Monday and Tuesday were: 23 percent Democratic, 44 percent Republican, and 33 percent independent or other parties. That is to say, a 21-point GOP edge, which would put Trump on track to tie things up.

But … here’s the bad news for Trump. Party registration may be a misleading indicator in Arizona. It has a lot of ancestral Republicans who have now turned into swing voters. Biden also had a big lead among independents in polls. And earlier batches of mail ballots were considerably stronger for Biden than party registration alone would suggest. So probably these ballots are going to come in more for Trump than for Biden, but not as strongly as he needs.

There’s also the fact that two other news organizations, the Associated Press and Fox News, have called the state for Biden. I’d assume they’ve put more work into looking into this than I have, so that shifts my priors a bit, but you never know and you will get incorrect calls occasionally. Overall, I’d say this is Likely Biden but I don’t think the state should have been called yet.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
4. I think the call was too early
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 05:55 PM
Nov 2020

I am not sure what Fox News is up to. It seems to help, but nothing they do would intentionally help Biden or the Democrats.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
9. AP called it too
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 06:16 PM
Nov 2020

Biden is leading in Maricopa County. Where are the Trump voters going to come from? It isn't like Pennsylvania with blue areas that have yet to count ballots.

brooklynite

(94,358 posts)
2. This says that Fox can see the handwriting on the wall...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 05:53 PM
Nov 2020

...and isn't willing to go out on a limb for Trump.

LeftInTX

(25,132 posts)
8. I don't think so
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 06:16 PM
Nov 2020

Some of their site is not biased.

I just don't know how accurate it is.

There are 600,000 outstanding mail ballots. Only 3 million votes have been counted. Too much uncertainty for me.

getagrip_already

(14,632 posts)
5. It will probably be settled by tonight....
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 05:57 PM
Nov 2020

AZ will do a data dump at 6pm and 9pm their time. They think that will b everything.

LeftInTX

(25,132 posts)
7. The Fox News website is "interesting"
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 06:14 PM
Nov 2020

I remember they kept Obama's approval ratings at a pretty high level (Jan 2009 level) and they didn't show the fluctuations prior to the 2012 election.

I would be cautious about this. It is probably not even related to Fox News bias.

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