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Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:03 PM Nov 2020

California backs Prop 22: Great news for Uber, Lyft as their drivers can work as indie contractors

Californians have overturned lawmakers in two critical ballot measures covering the gig economy and online privacy, with broader implications for the whole country.

Proposition 22 passed with 58 per cent of the vote (with 83 per cent of votes counted) and will exempt app-based drivers from legislation that required companies like Uber and Lyft to treat their drivers as employees rather than independent contractors.

That legislation – AB5 – came into effect in January and required gig economy companies to provide drivers with a range of benefits including health insurance and paid time off in the US state. It was a landmark piece of legislation that was vigorously fought by those companies and was upheld repeatedly in the courts.

Those same companies – notably Uber and Lyft – put Proposition 22 on the ballot and spent an extraordinary $200m in a campaign to get voters to back it, claiming, somewhat misleadingly, that they would have to shut down their businesses because of the additional costs of AB5.

There was a $20m counter-campaign funded by labor unions – who planned to get those same drivers to unionize – but the slick and well financed Uber/Lyft effort had the desired effect and a majority of voters passed the measure. Uber’s share price went up 12 per cent on Wednesday; Lyft’s by 8 per cent. Money well spent.

The decision is likely to have a big impact across the United States, with many states looking at California – where most of the gig economy companies are based – to decide how to approach the issue in their own jurisdictions. Uber, Lyft, Doordash and other companies are certain to rollout similar campaigns wherever state legislatures consider forcing them to recognize drivers as employees.

https://www.theregister.com/2020/11/04/california_election_propositions/

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California backs Prop 22: Great news for Uber, Lyft as their drivers can work as indie contractors (Original Post) Klaralven Nov 2020 OP
That's not good news. The drivers already work as indie contractors. brush Nov 2020 #1
This is NOT good news. BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #2
+1 Agreed. Not good news at all. c-rational Nov 2020 #3
turn drivers into serfs. hope patrick stewart is happy about this nt msongs Nov 2020 #4
They had such a strong campaign against this, MoonchildCA Nov 2020 #5

brush

(53,759 posts)
1. That's not good news. The drivers already work as indie contractors.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:06 PM
Nov 2020

They wanted to have permanent employee status with benefits. Now they're still stuck paying their own insurance, healthcare, etc.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
2. This is NOT good news.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:07 PM
Nov 2020

Workers do not get any benefits and their commercials were BS funded by big buisness/$$$$$. This is a win for Uber and Lift....not the workers!
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MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
5. They had such a strong campaign against this,
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 11:26 PM
Nov 2020

Everyone was fooled, including my husband.
Their spokespeople were Uber/Lyft drivers who “just wanted their independence” to work when they wanted, spend time with their family, and it was going to give them health insurance.
They flooded the airwaves with this, and the majority of the voters thought they were doing what the drivers wanted.
I really wish people would learn to just follow the money. Ballotpedia is such a great resource to figure all this shit out.

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