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ancianita

(35,932 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:51 AM Nov 2020

Disappointment In Our Fellow Americans Is Temporary. Good Trouble Is Permanent.

Last edited Thu Nov 5, 2020, 02:56 AM - Edit history (2)

I know I'm disappointed in every single last Trumper, near and far, but I wouldn't characterize the whole nation based on its worst.

America's population is 330,000,000. (2010 Census, rounded up by media until the 2020 figure is out)

So far 68,537,064 American have voted for Trump. (tonight's updated AP count)

So far, that's 21% of the nation -- which belies the feeling kicking around lately that says we have to live with the disappointing "half" the country. As if we're evenly and permanently split.

A look at our numbers could help our outlook on fellow Americans.

Even if we just include adults, subtract the 74,000,000 under age 18, and the 10,000,000 undocumented immigrants who can't vote, and talk about voting age adults in the nation (244,200,000), Trump voters are still only 28% of all voting age Americans. Still not representative when speaking of America.

72% of American adults is much more representative of anything that could be said about all of America.

So when you hear the word half used, it kinda sounds as if the speaker means we're a clearly split nation. Even if that's unintentional, it distorts and exaggerates the power of those who disappoint us, which is not considerate or fair to us. It's more thought and talk that disempowers us.

In the heat of uncertainty in 2020, we disappointed should also remember that this is not how Biden looks at Americans in general, no matter his feelings.

Unfounded, ungrounded claims show distrust and irrational cynicism that shouldn't be passed around as anything but how the smaller numbers feel.

Americans of the 72% are beat down enough just trying to beat off gaslighting from their own leaders' contempt and racist policies and economic oppression without feeling that fellow Americans would pile on their disappointment.

A look at history can also help. It reminds me that when I'm disappointed in Americans, they're like me, born into a system they didn't make. They haven't been able to see it clearly or even if they do, they haven't been able to think or live their way out of it. It helps to remember that from the start, Thomas Jefferson didn't foresee the need to help future Americans live up to his ideal of the informed citizen when he chose not to make education a fundamental constitutional right. Or human equality.

Schools not only reflect the public, but the public's values of putting their money where their mouth is. Schools since Jeffersons' day reinforce class hierarchy. The more less educated there are, the less time and money they have to invest in education, the more easily they're persuaded to "make choices" by privatizers, whose PR attacks on teachers, "urban" dangers, etc., partly explains the downward drift of public attitudes about the worth of public education. And the pubic's own worth.

Which means that public education needs a renewed commitment by our party.
It won't happen within 50 different state school systems, because it hasn't in 200 years.

73% of Americans have little or no more than high school education attainment.
Only 27% of Americans have an actual college degree (wikipedia under "educational attainment" ).

As we see the Marjory Stoneman Douglas HS generation now step up to vote, we might think there's some Jeffersonian education going on between high schools and the Internet. But that's not enough to qualify as systematic progress.

When Biden wins, Congress, through a National Education Incentive Act (or the Cash for Smarts Act, or some other title), can get 50 states to upgrade public education geared toward college entry, because too much public education is everything but.
States can get incentive cash from Congress to help upgrade curricula in STEM and humanities, tech and multi-media labs; add an extra year to high school and whole foods to cafeterias. We've tried before, but this time we commit under a budget Title.

Congress can then reward high school graduates with free tuition upon college admission, a door into the systematic exposure of higher education's systematic teaching of the range and depth of content subjects; reading stamina; short and long term analysis; communications and writing skills ...

Such that we'd eventually get a majority of smart people in America. Also discontented, activist people. Congress could do worse than commit to more national youth initiatives, even related jobs programs in a gap year.

A federal commitment to subsidizing university level education is similar to how Obama explains the long term payoff of voting -- it's never 100%, but it's better at realizing the Jeffersonian ideal of the informed citizen.

Then we can get the numbers to ratify an amendment that makes education a fundamental constitutional right. And the ERA. And a voting ERA. End the Electoral College. The smarter our citizenry, the less bad trouble and the more good trouble they can make.




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Disappointment In Our Fellow Americans Is Temporary. Good Trouble Is Permanent. (Original Post) ancianita Nov 2020 OP
I needed to read that Chili Nov 2020 #1
After four years of this horror show, he got about SIX MILLION more votes than last time? niyad Nov 2020 #2
I hear you. ancianita Nov 2020 #3
Thank you Tree-Hugger Nov 2020 #4
Thank you so much for this thoughtful eloquence, ancianita. crickets Nov 2020 #5
Thank YOU. ancianita Nov 2020 #6
TY great post Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #7
Exceptionally thought out post... hwmnbn Nov 2020 #8
Yes. We'll do it all, progress just sometimes takes longer. Hortensis Nov 2020 #9
so that 21% /28% bdamomma Nov 2020 #10

Chili

(1,725 posts)
1. I needed to read that
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:54 AM
Nov 2020

Thank you.

Doc Rivers' quote hit me hard when he said it, and I'm feeling that way now. I'll get over it, but... it does hurt to think that so many people are lost. They're just not redeemable because they don't want to be.

niyad

(113,055 posts)
2. After four years of this horror show, he got about SIX MILLION more votes than last time?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:57 AM
Nov 2020

Right now, I have nothing but contempt and loathing for those. . . people. They have revealed just how ugly, how hateful, how ignorant, how hypocritical, how vicious and violent they are. It is going to take a while!

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
3. I hear you.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:02 AM
Nov 2020

It's gonna take me a while, too. But there's a whole context about them I'm trying to stay aware of.

crickets

(25,952 posts)
5. Thank you so much for this thoughtful eloquence, ancianita.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:27 AM
Nov 2020

You express the issue so well, but then you actually talk about how to do something about it, using strategies that are sensible and feasible if enough of us put a shoulder behind them and push. Stellar.

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
6. Thank YOU.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:37 AM
Nov 2020

We can remember, I think, that we can think our way out of this so we don't get stuck in division.

hwmnbn

(4,279 posts)
8. Exceptionally thought out post...
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:03 AM
Nov 2020

Thank you for sharing these ideas. Not only are they encouraging, they are doable.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Yes. We'll do it all, progress just sometimes takes longer.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:08 AM
Nov 2020

Nothing new about having to struggle for it.

bdamomma

(63,799 posts)
10. so that 21% /28%
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:12 AM
Nov 2020

is a minority...I thought it was majority rule.

tRump has accomplished killing and dividing Americans. POS he needs to go, so we can all move on.

Take his lawsuits and go home.

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