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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:45 AM Nov 2020

George Will, of all people, nails it.

Ransacking his mental thesaurus in search of exactly the wrong words, and finding them, President Trump, in his early-Wednesday-morning coda to his kamikaze campaign, distilled into six words a suitable cri de cœur for the leader of a party that has now lost the popular vote in seven of the past eight elections:

'We want all voting to stop.'


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/america-is-battered-but-a-somewhat-happy-ending-is-in-sight/2020/11/04/6c59db62-1ec8-11eb-b532-05c751cd5dc2_story.html
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George Will, of all people, nails it. (Original Post) ehrnst Nov 2020 OP
Well said, indeed Roland99 Nov 2020 #1
These times bring out the wit in people Beringia Nov 2020 #2
True Kitchari Nov 2020 #3
:) Will has a great talent for finding the right words. Hortensis Nov 2020 #4
:) Will has a great talent for finding the right words. Hortensis Nov 2020 #5
We must all be truly stunned into silence if George Will is our spokesman. jaxexpat Nov 2020 #6
Nah, it's the usual "only Nixon could go to China" stuff... JHB Nov 2020 #15
I Don't Always Agree With His Positions COL Mustard Nov 2020 #22
The party loses the popular vote in aggregate for the Senate too bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #7
Hey, Donnie Dimwit! July Nov 2020 #8
Exactly. His spreadneck Deplorables are too stupid to grasp that. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2020 #21
We want all testing to stop to "We want all voting to stop" PWPippinesq Nov 2020 #9
Nice! Isn't it funny how trump was "hands-off, let them sink" Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #10
Exactly! Nt ecstatic Nov 2020 #11
Excellent point. llmart Nov 2020 #13
When George Will is against you. tRump, you're toast! ananda Nov 2020 #12
The GOP "has now lost the popular vote in seven of the past eight elections." Botany Nov 2020 #14
George Will's quote should be used in the history books. nt NoRoadUntravelled Nov 2020 #16
There is this point to make cojoel Nov 2020 #17
Rather 'nice' of him to list them without attributing them to Republicans, eh? Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #35
All along for Trump ballots are deadlier than bullets. gordianot Nov 2020 #18
I have to disagree robbob Nov 2020 #19
Yes, word weasels. They will say "there is a chance a shiny object might have been there" and their Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #24
Some Republicans Soxfan58 Nov 2020 #20
😎👍 COL Mustard Nov 2020 #23
There are Republicons which means tRumpists & tRumpissers & tRumpanzees. There are also conservative Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #25
Yes!!!!! Soxfan58 Nov 2020 #29
You are exactly right, ehrnst. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #26
Pendejo45's strategy appears to be ... aggiesal Nov 2020 #27
Ohh....I LOVE this. sdfernando Nov 2020 #28
What Will utterly FAILS TO MENTION UpInArms Nov 2020 #30
George Will has all the best words Hekate Nov 2020 #31
Will is always at his best when he is a critic McCamy Taylor Nov 2020 #32
I hope everyone keeps this in mind; warmfeet Nov 2020 #33
yes, that does nail it Skittles Nov 2020 #34
Nice sentence George, but you were part of that party for the last four decades. Did you not c-rational Nov 2020 #36
my old letter to the editor nemesis bigtree Nov 2020 #37
good, Im glad someone else saw that and commented - it Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2020 #38
"I see that it is once again time for my occasional feint towards the center" struggle4progress Nov 2020 #39
everyone in the room clapped and cheered when he said it disalitervisum Nov 2020 #40
Ouch! That article is going to leave a mark. Warpy Nov 2020 #41

JHB

(37,158 posts)
15. Nah, it's the usual "only Nixon could go to China" stuff...
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:56 AM
Nov 2020

We have plenty of people with sharp wits and acid-tongues, but they're usually consigned to obscurity for being "too strident" and don't get nationally-visible columns, op-eds, and political talk show invites.

COL Mustard

(5,896 posts)
22. I Don't Always Agree With His Positions
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:20 AM
Nov 2020

But he has a way with words. He’s also a huge baseball fan.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
7. The party loses the popular vote in aggregate for the Senate too
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:15 AM
Nov 2020

Yet there they are, in power, singing along with Mitch

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. Nice! Isn't it funny how trump was "hands-off, let them sink"
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:32 AM
Nov 2020

on controlling the virus. But now, he wants to get involved and tell the states what to do with voting?

Botany

(70,483 posts)
14. The GOP "has now lost the popular vote in seven of the past eight elections."
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:50 AM
Nov 2020

Don't tell me that the libs/dems are out of sync with America.

cojoel

(957 posts)
17. There is this point to make
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:15 AM
Nov 2020

There is this quote:

His rhetoric was calculated, with feral cunning, to preemptively delegitimize the election. So, the list of this century’s failures of governance now includes a sixth episode crammed into just 20 years: the intelligence failures preceding 9/11; the Iraq debacle; the 2008 financial crisis; unpreparedness for, and feckless national leadership during, a pandemic; and the inability to nimbly adapt to the pandemic by conducting elections that bolster public confidence.


What George Will doesn't say that all six of these "failures of governance happened during Republican administrations: three for GWB and three for Trump.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
18. All along for Trump ballots are deadlier than bullets.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:32 AM
Nov 2020

Well dressed prosecuting attorneys are his greatest threat.

robbob

(3,524 posts)
19. I have to disagree
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:38 AM
Nov 2020

He chose his words very deliberately; when he said “all voting must stop” he was implying that votes were still being cast well past the closing of polls, and THIS was how his “victory” would be stolen. tRump and his handlers are word weasels; they manipulate their gullible followers by implanting false ideas in their minds. For example, for weeks now they have been creating the notion that there is something inherently corrupt about mail in ballots.

It won’t work this time. The correct response is simply ALL the legitimate votes must be counted.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
24. Yes, word weasels. They will say "there is a chance a shiny object might have been there" and their
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:27 AM
Nov 2020

They will say "there is a chance a shiny object might have been there" and supporters will go "Ooo! Shiny object! Those commie demoncrats stole it!"

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
25. There are Republicons which means tRumpists & tRumpissers & tRumpanzees. There are also conservative
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:31 AM
Nov 2020

The conservatives will have to form a new party because there is no room for reasonable conservatives in the tRump-Republicon party. It is so far gone into fantasy and selfishness that it is truly the Greed Over People party.

We should encourage conservatives to form a new party that we can deal with. In the short run it will badly split the vote on the right and in the long run it will help heal America.

aggiesal

(8,910 posts)
27. Pendejo45's strategy appears to be ...
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:46 AM
Nov 2020

I'm winning, stop counting.
I'm losing, keep counting.

El Pendejo Grande.

sdfernando

(4,929 posts)
28. Ohh....I LOVE this.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:49 AM
Nov 2020

Too bad the tangeranus won't understand a word of it. Most of these words are not in his vocabulary and he is way too lazy to even look up "cri de cœur" even though anyone with a modicum of intelligence could figure it our without cracking a book, or a smartphone!

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
30. What Will utterly FAILS TO MENTION
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:17 PM
Nov 2020
So, the list of this century’s failures of governance now includes a sixth episode crammed into just 20 years: the intelligence failures preceding 9/11; the Iraq debacle; the 2008 financial crisis; unpreparedness for, and feckless national leadership during, a pandemic; and the inability to nimbly adapt to the pandemic by conducting elections that bolster public confidence.


9/11 - GWB ... REPUBLICAN

the Iraq debacle - GWB ... REPUBLICAN

the 2008 financial crisis - GWB ... REPUBLICAN

unpreparedness for, and feckless national leadership during a pandemic - DJT ... REPUBLICAN

the ability to nimbly adapt to the pandemic by conducting elections that bolster public confidence - DJT ... REPUBLICAN

........

Gee ... I wonder what those things have in common?

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
33. I hope everyone keeps this in mind;
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:22 PM
Nov 2020

"the republican party has lost the popular vote in seven of the past eight elections." They have won the white house far more often than this in the past eight elections.

This must change. Democracies do not function this way. You lose the popular vote, you lose, period.

I am not a fan of oligarchic or autocratic forms of government. Despots and kings are right out.



My favorite scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

c-rational

(2,590 posts)
36. Nice sentence George, but you were part of that party for the last four decades. Did you not
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:08 PM
Nov 2020

realize what an abomination of a party you helped build.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
37. my old letter to the editor nemesis
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:10 PM
Nov 2020

...wrote my little essays freehand with pencil and yellow legal pad.

Got a few to Will published in newsprint.

I'd wait a week or so for a telephone call on my land line after his article had appeared, and I'd have rushed my letter into the snail mailbox. The voice at the other end of the line would be asking me if I'd agree for them to publish (no guarantees they'd say, but it was almost certain). I'd hang up and be over the moon at the prospect of reading my name and opinion on the WP editorial page. Next couple of mornings I'd drag myself out of bed and check the paper. When I'd found the piece... man. Nothing sweeter in my young life. 12 different times, one on the Clinton impeachment, one in their now-defunct magazine.

My man, Will. He's still trash.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
38. good, Im glad someone else saw that and commented - it
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:12 PM
Nov 2020

was a slip, ok, but you know dang well thats what he really wants - overt facism.

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
41. Ouch! That article is going to leave a mark.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:51 AM
Nov 2020

Will has always had a good command of the English language, he's just been wrongheaded. It's nice to know he had a few standards, after all, low ones but he had 'em.

He'll be back to excoriating us five minutes after the next Democrat gets sworn in.

Current counts in the slow to report five states all have Dumdum ahead. I hope it doesn't last through tomorrow until news dump time.

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