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joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:27 AM Nov 2020

Toomey (R-PA), Johnson (R-WI), and Burr (R-NC) won't seek reelection. Biden cabinet picks?

Biden offers them cabinet / administrative positions, they resign from the Senate. Burr and Toomey would be replaced by Democratic appointments (Dem governors in those states). Johnson would be replaced by a special election (which we could win). That's 3 Senate pickups.

Idea posed by the Votemaster on electoral-vote.com:

If the Republicans control the Senate with 51 or 52 seats, there is one ploy a President Biden could try. Sens. Pat Toomey (R-PA), Ron Johnson (R-WI), and Richard Burr (R-NC) have all announced that they will not seek reelection in 2022. Biden could offer one or more of them cabinet positions. It just so happens that all three of their states have Democratic governors. In Pennsylvania and North Carolina, the governor appoints the new senator, who would surely be a Democrat. In Wisconsin, there is a special election, which a Democrat would have a decent shot at winning.


I think Biden can make the case. Let's do this guys.
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Toomey (R-PA), Johnson (R-WI), and Burr (R-NC) won't seek reelection. Biden cabinet picks? (Original Post) joshcryer Nov 2020 OP
No to Johnson. He is a partisan hack. muntrv Nov 2020 #1
So he's better off in the Senate? joshcryer Nov 2020 #2
Seriously? Burr is a crook. Johnson is Putin's boy and Toomey? Who knows. dem4decades Nov 2020 #3
These guys aren't stupid. They aren't going to give up the Senate. Ace Rothstein Nov 2020 #4
They can't be trusted. Johnson tried to spread the lie about Hunter Biden having child porn on his JI7 Nov 2020 #5
Why would they accept? FBaggins Nov 2020 #6
Oh, I doubt they would, but, offering the olive branch. joshcryer Nov 2020 #8
There are some things you don't do on principle exboyfil Nov 2020 #7
No way, no how, no never PRETZEL Nov 2020 #9
Interesting plan Cirque du So-What Nov 2020 #10
It would have to be planned out, but look, this is how they operate. joshcryer Nov 2020 #13
No traitors allowed. Cracklin Charlie Nov 2020 #11
Putting a weasel in your henhouse Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #12
Fuck Russia Ron, Burr's going to jail. Toomey might be an option if they can win one the runoffs OnDoutside Nov 2020 #14
Isn't Burr under investigation for stock dumping at the start of CV-19? JanMichael Nov 2020 #15
Burr is a crook and RoJo is a Moscow Mule. deminks Nov 2020 #16
Are there enough votes left in Pa. oswaldactedalone Nov 2020 #17
Johnson and Barr are beyond considering, being traitors and crooks (inside trading). lark Nov 2020 #18
I doubt Biden will LiberalFighter Nov 2020 #19
The same Ron Johnson that tried to drag Hunter through Rice4VP Nov 2020 #20
Governors have done this on more than one occasion. dsc Nov 2020 #21
dude ... Cosmocat Nov 2020 #22
North Carolina replacement MUST be the same party NewJeffCT Nov 2020 #23
And then, when they've resigned from the senate he could fire them AleksS Nov 2020 #24
I'd say the likelihood of that happening is almost nil. MineralMan Nov 2020 #25
Definitely a possibility. But only if they provide some real inside dirt and leverage. FreepFryer Nov 2020 #26

JI7

(89,233 posts)
5. They can't be trusted. Johnson tried to spread the lie about Hunter Biden having child porn on his
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:31 AM
Nov 2020

computer. and burr has those ethics issues .

Maybe Toomey could be given some ambassador type position but I don't trust any of these .

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
8. Oh, I doubt they would, but, offering the olive branch.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:33 AM
Nov 2020

I don't know if there's even a case there to be made.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
7. There are some things you don't do on principle
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:32 AM
Nov 2020

This is one of them. Johnson and Burr are a hard no. Johnson is a conduit for Russian misinformation. Burr decided doing inside trades was more important than executing the duties of his office and protecting those who elected him.

All three supported Trump the last four years. Burr showed some resistance to Trump.

I don't know as much about Toomey.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
9. No way, no how, no never
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:33 AM
Nov 2020

First off, as just said, Johnson is a partisan hack who's been a Biden conspiracy theorist for the last 3 years. Ain't no way I want anything to do with this jackass.

Toomey and Burr are both retiring. With Toomey's seat, I see this a Dem pickup as is so why?

Cirque du So-What

(25,900 posts)
10. Interesting plan
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:34 AM
Nov 2020

but will each of the respective governors appoint Democrats to their Senate seats? Without a doubt, a repug guv wouldn’t hesitate to fill a seat vacated by a D with a R, but would these Democratic governors want to avoid the inevitable outcry from repugs?

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
13. It would have to be planned out, but look, this is how they operate.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:35 AM
Nov 2020

We need to start fighting fire with fire.

A lot of people don't remember that in 2010 dozens of Republicans ran as Democrats, then switched parties after the won. We need to do something else we're fucked for the next two years. And then, are we going to be able to pull a 2006 or a 2018? With the way this election has gone? I have my doubts.

OnDoutside

(19,943 posts)
14. Fuck Russia Ron, Burr's going to jail. Toomey might be an option if they can win one the runoffs
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:36 AM
Nov 2020

I like it.

JanMichael

(24,869 posts)
15. Isn't Burr under investigation for stock dumping at the start of CV-19?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:43 AM
Nov 2020

If that hasn't been resolved not a likely cabinet appointment unless as a joke.

deminks

(11,011 posts)
16. Burr is a crook and RoJo is a Moscow Mule.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:50 AM
Nov 2020

I would not want them anywhere near a government job, ever.

oswaldactedalone

(3,489 posts)
17. Are there enough votes left in Pa.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:54 AM
Nov 2020

to swing it to Joe? Per the CNN report from Philly just now, it could be in doubt. Someone talk me down.

lark

(23,058 posts)
18. Johnson and Barr are beyond considering, being traitors and crooks (inside trading).
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:04 AM
Nov 2020

Johnson is the worst of the worst, a total Russian whack job. He should be considered for nothing but prison. Barr, an inside trader, the same and I think Toomey is almost as bad. If we are just down 1 seat, Toomey might be the answer because he's not an out and out traitor criminal, AFAIK, like Johnson and I don't remember hearing about him being one of the grifters. So, depending on who Toomey actually is, and the laws of the state of PA, that could be a good idea if it changes the Senate..

dsc

(52,147 posts)
21. Governors have done this on more than one occasion.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:18 AM
Nov 2020

I doubt any of the three would agree to leave the Senate and I have to admit, I would have a hard time accepting Johnson in any role. Burr and Toomey would be less bad than Johnson but still not quite problematic. I could live with either of them if it gave us the Senate and thus allowed us to have a freer hand with all other appointees.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
23. North Carolina replacement MUST be the same party
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:25 AM
Nov 2020

by law in that state (I looked it up before when the insider trading issue with Burr came up)

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
24. And then, when they've resigned from the senate he could fire them
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:29 AM
Nov 2020

From the cabinet! Take that suckers!!

MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
25. I'd say the likelihood of that happening is almost nil.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:32 AM
Nov 2020

Most likely, none of them would accept that idea, and we don't want any of them in the cabinet anyhow.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
26. Definitely a possibility. But only if they provide some real inside dirt and leverage.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:32 AM
Nov 2020

In addition to the seats, we could benefit from understanding, investigating and potentially addressing whatever took place to keep the Republicans so uniformly aligned against national security in the last session.

Give any Republicans with knowledge or participation in any illegal activity of that nature a chance to help restore a bit of the balance of what they might have cost their country.

And Cabinet positions aren’t forever.

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