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mia

(8,360 posts)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:02 AM Nov 2020

Will Trump win the military votes?

"Military ballots could play greater role in narrow state counts

Authorities in Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania and Alaska on Thursday continued to count ballots and wait for others yet to arrive, including those cast by uniformed troops and their families stationed away from their homes.

“We anticipate military ballots could play a decisive role in this election given that these ballots are some of the latest to arrive and be counted,” said Jack Noland, a researcher at the nonpartisan group Count Every Hero, an initiative of anti-corruption advocacy group RepresentUs.

Scrutiny of ballots that were not counted or received until after Election Day has intensified as Trump’s campaign mounted legal challenges in at least three states and the president has attempted to stoke doubts about the validity of continuing vote tallies....

In a call Thursday organized by Count Every Hero, retired Gen. George Casey, who served as Army chief of staff during the George W. Bush and Obama administrations, asked state officials to include assurances when they certify state votes that all service member ballots have been counted. “We ask so much of them, they deserve to know that their voices are heard,” he said....


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/military-absentee-ballots-election/2020/11/05/cc60954a-1f78-11eb-9ec3-3a81e23c4b5e_story.html




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Will Trump win the military votes? (Original Post) mia Nov 2020 OP
Biden will win it overall Johnny2X2X Nov 2020 #1
The logistics of the mail transit slows delivery. peacebuzzard Nov 2020 #7
Today is the last day they'll be accepted in GA Johnny2X2X Nov 2020 #10
we will know today? peacebuzzard Nov 2020 #12
He could sadly. Military is very very republican traditionally. Claustrum Nov 2020 #2
Not all. TigressDem Nov 2020 #3
The military will favor Biden. peacebuzzard Nov 2020 #4
Disagree. L.Pharmstrong Nov 2020 #9
Officers would theoretically be more likely to return ballots. BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #13
CNN discussing military vote in GA just now PirateRo Nov 2020 #5
We're only talking about military votes that arrive today VMA131Marine Nov 2020 #6
Remember, military members are not a monolith. spicysista Nov 2020 #8
The military votes will not be consequential. gab13by13 Nov 2020 #11
Hard to tell. moondust Nov 2020 #14

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
1. Biden will win it overall
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:03 AM
Nov 2020

However, it will vary state to state.

And I’m not sure why military votes would be saved until the end. They’ve probably been counted all along but there will be some accepted the next couple days.

peacebuzzard

(5,170 posts)
7. The logistics of the mail transit slows delivery.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:13 AM
Nov 2020

It is paper ballots-U.S. mail.
Just the transition would be subject to current shipment issues. US carriers have cut back most routes, and the military mail may have to wait military transport, which would be subject to multiple transitions.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
2. He could sadly. Military is very very republican traditionally.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:05 AM
Nov 2020

I don't know if Trump would drive them away enough but I would still think Trump will get more out of their votes.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
3. Not all.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:08 AM
Nov 2020

Big Military folk have come out to support Biden and Trump has been disrespectful of the military. So it's complicated, but whoever people vote for ALL the votes should be counted.

Democracy is more important than one election.

EVEN though having one more term of Trump might destroy America, winning by cheating isn't going to make it better, so DEMS do not deny anyone their right to vote.

peacebuzzard

(5,170 posts)
4. The military will favor Biden.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:09 AM
Nov 2020

The vast majority are patriots, and well informed.
You will always have some that have been sidelined, but our current military overseas forces are for the most part exemplary patriots.
Especially the overseas military, they are keenly aware of the international viewpoint of the US.

 

L.Pharmstrong

(152 posts)
9. Disagree.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:15 AM
Nov 2020

The brass may favor Biden, but many of the enlisted troops still support Trump. I have had this discussion with friends who served and some who continue to serve as officers in the military.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
13. Officers would theoretically be more likely to return ballots.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:33 AM
Nov 2020

Than an enlisted soldier.

BTW, lost in this discussion is that in most states the majority of these ballots are not likely to be returned anyway, or will be returned after deadlines which are quickly approaching. And often these mentions of “overseas” ballots include expats who have no connection to the military and would not be likely Trump voters.

PirateRo

(933 posts)
5. CNN discussing military vote in GA just now
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:10 AM
Nov 2020

Still some vote count in GA, including some military but the military vote has been counted all along, so that number is smaller and still more that 50,000 to count in Philly.

Biden has consistently received more than 80% of the vote.

VMA131Marine

(4,138 posts)
6. We're only talking about military votes that arrive today
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:12 AM
Nov 2020

There are 8000-9000 ballots outstanding but that’s what hasn’t yet been returned. The actual number of these ballots that will come back today to beat the deadline is unknown, but it’s probably a lot less than the total amount out.

spicysista

(1,663 posts)
8. Remember, military members are not a monolith.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:14 AM
Nov 2020

Also, the military is disproportionately filled with minorities. Many of the military families in Georgia are people of color. I think the ones in Georgia may tilt Biden.

moondust

(19,976 posts)
14. Hard to tell.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:36 AM
Nov 2020

Military is authoritarian and brass have historically leaned right. This time they may not approve of all the chaos, resignations, obvious lies, Russian asset concerns, alienation of allies, dissing NATO, etc.

Enlisted a mixed bag. I heard stories during Bush/Cheney that quite a few far right militia types were signing up but don't know how many or if that has continued.

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