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CanonRay

(14,097 posts)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:31 AM Nov 2020

I think the problem is going to be that they won't let us govern

They don't want to govern when they are in power, and when we are they block everything. Personally, I think it will be even worse this time around than it was with Obama.

Executive orders can only go so far.

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I think the problem is going to be that they won't let us govern (Original Post) CanonRay Nov 2020 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author DLCWIdem Nov 2020 #1
I think it will be different. Phoenix61 Nov 2020 #2
My fear also. Please Georgia vote those 2 senators in DLCWIdem Nov 2020 #3
THIS KPN Nov 2020 #4
Of course they won't. cilla4progress Nov 2020 #5
Dems govern, Repubs rule... Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #6
Nope we need to ram it down their throat. onecaliberal Nov 2020 #7
Best part... Cracklin Charlie Nov 2020 #8
Don't underestimate the value of political capital AkFemDem Nov 2020 #9
Trump abused the hell outta EO's. Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #10
We may win in Georgia and also an Alaska senate seat is a real possibility.. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #11
Then We Have To Use The Powers Ceded to The Executive... jayfish Nov 2020 #12
As far as I am concerned, we are infinitely better off than we were with trump and GOPer Senate. Hoyt Nov 2020 #13
Not if we win the two Senate runoffs in GA. Sogo Nov 2020 #14

Response to CanonRay (Original post)

Phoenix61

(17,000 posts)
2. I think it will be different.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:35 AM
Nov 2020

Joe saw what happened when Obama tried to play nice. We are in the middle of a pandemic and it shouldn’t be difficult to squeeze the turtle and make it all his fault when legislation to help the country does on the turtle’s desk.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
3. My fear also. Please Georgia vote those 2 senators in
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:35 AM
Nov 2020

We need to mobilize in Georgia for those senate seats. My sister has not given up hope for Cunningham in NC.

cilla4progress

(24,725 posts)
5. Of course they won't.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:39 AM
Nov 2020

We will have to outwit them.

I disagree about it being harder. Biden has longstanding relationships in Congress he can call upon. I imagine some of them want to break the fever too! Will obstruction be their only legacy?

I think there was a sense with Obama that he cut the line. We were ready for him - but the old white male establishment that is the Senate was not, had no vision, thus would not work with him.

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
6. Dems govern, Repubs rule...
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:40 AM
Nov 2020

so yeah, if Moscow Mitch is still running the Senate, I expect nothing different.

AkFemDem

(1,823 posts)
9. Don't underestimate the value of political capital
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:43 AM
Nov 2020

Joe has a lot of very long relationships on the red side of the aisle, and many of those relationships are positive in nature.

Democrats won’t get free reign, but I do think he will have less resistance than Obama.

Happy Hoosier

(7,277 posts)
10. Trump abused the hell outta EO's.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:44 AM
Nov 2020

And tied it up in courts forever.

We can do that too.

Politics ain't beanbag.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
11. We may win in Georgia and also an Alaska senate seat is a real possibility..
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:47 AM
Nov 2020

so we could still get the Senate...but the Senate map for 2022 is dismal for the GOP. Richard Burr, Ron Johnson and Pat Toomey are retiring. Thus, McConnell will not have such an easy time enforcing complete gridlock.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
12. Then We Have To Use The Powers Ceded to The Executive...
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:48 AM
Nov 2020

by the republicans over the last four years. That means copious use of Executive orders. That means direct control of the Attorney General and DOJ. That means not showing up to Senate sideshow "hearings". To not do so would be to unilaterally disarm.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. As far as I am concerned, we are infinitely better off than we were with trump and GOPer Senate.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:58 AM
Nov 2020

As an example of what can happen:

If the Supreme Court sinks ACA -- and I'm not convinced they will -- the House and President can present a health care plan to the Senate. It will likely take some compromise on our part, but something will get enacted. There will be a couple of GOPer Senators who -- like McCain -- knows it's the right thing to do and understand the consequences in 2022.

Plus, there's a better chance we'll all be alive in 2022 with Biden Admin managing CV19 response.
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