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It's ridiculous. I get reporting about the lawsuit but it's ridiculous to pretend that these lawsuits have much merit and, more importantly, will alter the total if they somehow get SC approval.
The two lawsuits have to do with ballots postmarked by election day but delivered after the election, which have been segregated, and are not included in any count right now, and the other about curating ballots in two counties that might not be legal under state law but we're looking at probably a few thousand votes at most.
None of this is going to change who wins PA and it's disingenuous of Williams to imply it could.
spanone
(135,823 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)nt
jayfish
(10,039 posts)
In 1986, Williams was hired as press secretary and legislative assistant in the staff of U.S. Representative Dick Cheney. Williams was appointed Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs in 1989, following Cheney's appointment as United States Secretary of Defense, and worked as press secretary of the Defense Department.
While serving as a Pentagon spokesperson, he was accused of allegedly working to cover up the large-scale irregular military activities that had occurred during the US invasion of Panama under the pretense of apprehending Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega,
BKDem
(1,733 posts)Fuck Pete Williams.
jayfish
(10,039 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,876 posts)Piece of, uh, work now.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)The fact that he is saying that only confirms that Trump really has lost....
Spazito
(50,290 posts)part of the GHW Bush administration. He was, is and always be a republican asshole, imo.
"In 1986, Williams became press secretary for U.S. Representative Dick Cheney and followed Cheney to the United States Department of Defense as Cheney became United States Secretary of Defense to be the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs in 1989 during the George H. W. Bush administration."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Williams_(journalist)
(link for those who don't know the asshole's previous history)
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)... that those segregated ballots were mixed with the other ones, violating a previous Supreme Court agreement.
Evidence cited? Nope! Just slinging crap, as usual!
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)If theres an issue with a ballot where I live, people have a chance to cure it, and it can be treated as a provisional ballot. Id think that would be SOP, but maybe in PA this should be codified to prevent stuff like this.
The longer this drags on, the more creative theyre going to get with these lawsuits.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)that was heard prior to the election. The court ruled the ballots could be accepted but needed to be separated from the regular ballots. After the election the case could be re-assessed as to whether those ballots would be counted. I heard something...I think...unless I was dreaming, about the PA legislature, and its ability to step in and do a dastardly deed. I do not think the media is responsible for any of this, and should not be blamed. Calling the election does not make it so.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)...was the Trumpers saying some voters with questionable ballots were able to cure any deficiencies by election officials. Trumps saying that goes against the law, but officials are saying theres nothing in the law that explicitly prohibits this. These ballots were ordered to be provisional, which is usually what happens anyway.
Now CNN is saying its about late arriving ballots.
I give up.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)fighting each and every vote to not count, by any means possible, legal or not. Those judges weren't put there for nothing. Maybe soon.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)talking about why they're not calling it. i think they're trying to drag this out as long as possible because they know people will tune in.
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 6, 2020, 04:10 PM - Edit history (1)
the spoiled/provisional ballots favor Biden enough to call the state for Biden. It's an unusually high number.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Over and over again, watching Trump try to come up with some new angle that turns the tables in Pennsylvania, and time after time it falls apart again. We're getting into muon territory for how long these hare-brained schemes survive the light of day. It draws out the energy of the Trump supporters, wasting it in futile hopes. By the time Pennsylvania is called for Biden, they should be exhausted.
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)brooklynite
(94,502 posts)If you can't tell me what he said about the lawsuits, I can't determine if your interpretation is correct.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)I laid out what he said and put why I thought he was wrong. Don't like it? Not enough for you? Oh well. You're free to watch MSNBC yourself.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)If so, I get it... but maybe lighten up on it a bit, there's still a half-day left in the afternoon.
malaise
(268,930 posts)that is all
Zeus69
(391 posts)Provisional ballots usually happen when someone didnt get their mail in ballot in time. So would probably skew Democrat, if anything.
There are 15k provisional in Allegheny that should skew Democrat. Also stories of Dems (esp. African-Americans in Delaware County) voting provisional instead of using mail ballot.
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)He would know a wee bit more than Pete Williams