so...what happens on Inauguration Day?

[cab67]

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Assuming Biden is declared the winner and Trump refuses to concede, what would actually happen in the White House?

Trump would no longer be president. He would no longer be CIC of the armed forces. He would no longer have access to the nuclear codes. He wouldn't be able to act as president, and I'm not really worried that half of Congress would try to pretend otherwise.

But Trump would still have Secret Service protection. Would they be obliged to prevent his forced removal from the White House if he decides he's not leaving? Could they stop someone from literally dragging his ass out the door if he decides not to cooperate?

What agency would actually remove him? Secret Service? Federal marshalls? DC police? Military? Biden and Harris themselves? I'd be in favor of a bunch of half-starved wolverines, but that's just me.

I assume Biden could set up somewhere while Trump's filth is washed from the White House, but how long could that take?

just curious.

Edited to add - My concern is not whether there will be confusion over who the president is. If Biden wins, he'll be the president at noon on January 20. Trump's concession is a nonissue. I'm not worried that Congress or the military, or parts of either, would try to act as though Trump is still preident - I'm confident they won't. But I don't really see him slinking away. My worry is that his removal from the Oval Office would be under less than orderly conditions.

[soothsayer]

1. Never going to come to this, I don't think

He’ll go to Maralago some day to golf and never come back

[Thekaspervote]

4. This..absolutely

[dchill]

8. And we can build a big, beautiful wall around it.

For our own protection.

[Miguelito Loveless]

9. This would be the best case ending

I cannot see Trump standing there watching Biden get sworn in.

[Thekaspervote]

2. Biden addressed that yesterday. Essentially said it wasn't necessary for him to concede

[dchill]

3. Is it possible that the Secret Service will be assigned...

... to the removal detail?

[dflprincess]

5. He doesn't have to formerly concede.

The Constitution is clear, his term ends at noon on January 20th.

[getagrip_already]

6. as joe's campaign said - the us gov't is perfectly capable of removing a trespasser from the wh.....

The ss is only there to protect him from the public, not from federal agents (or state leo's for that matter).

They may even be the ones tasked with removing him.

And if he is found to be trespassing at 12:01, he can't pardon himself since he would no longer be potus. They could charge him with a felony and prosecute him.

[Ohioboy]

7. If he has to be dragged out it will be a first

I don't know if anyone has these answers yet?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. We'd love it and his base would love it. They'd say "He was fighting to the end for our America!" nt

[Ohioboy]

22. The way Trump loves attention anything is possible

[Siwsan]

10. There's no requirement for him to concede

Once Joe takes the oath, trump* is persona non grata and will be removed, if necessary. Probably federal marshals.

And, yea, it's doubtful the Bidens will be able to move into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue for a while. It will have to be totally disinfected and swept for all KINDS of bugs. It would be nice if trump* would just move on, early.

[bearsfootball516]

17. Heck, Biden doesn't even have to take the oath.

The Constitution states that the new president's term begins at noon on January 20th. The oath is more symbolic than anything.

[Hoyt]

11. trump will leave. By January he will be more than willing to hide somewhere else as a nationally

disgraced loser. He'll still have millions of cult members to stroke his ego. They vast majority of us will move on.

[joshcryer]

12. He has to transition by law.

He has to give access to everything in the White House by law. While it's possible what soothsayer is saying happens, he still has to operate with the transition team. The main giveaway though is that he is absolutely not going to grant Biden the respect of mutual understanding and respect. This is going to tarnish the GOP brand for quite some time. Biden is going to be able to use this to his advantage unifying the country.

[marylandblue]

13. I'm not sure how it would go exactly, but even if he is sitting in the White House,

At 12:00 pm on Inauguration, the entire Federal Government starts talking orders from Biden. So the Secret Service would have to escort the intruder out of the White House, same as any other unauthorized person.

More likely though, they would avoid a scene and convince him to go voluntarily. He's really not completely delusional, he just likes to act that way because it scares people.

[grumpyduck]

14. I don't know, but I would guess

that the agents assigned to him would be covering the "former president" and the ones on Biden would be covering the "president." So the ones on donnie's detail may be required to get him outta there.

[qazplm135]

15. If Obama committed a crime tomorrow

his SS agents aren't going to prevent his arrest.

Same thing with Trump.

[Midnightwalk]

18. There is no way Trump will be around.

He already wasn’t doing the job he was elected to do. He’ll lose some more court cases and then next time he crashes from the speed high he’ll move out. The only thing that would keep him around is some new grift scheme with McConnell.

MAGATs will also lose interest in a month or so.

Just guesses.

[Statistical]

20. At noon at Jan 20th Trump is no longer President. If he is still in the WH he is tresspassing

and an active threat to the safety and security of the President.

It will never come to that even Trump isn't that stupid but yes I would fully expect the secret service and/or mall police to literally drag Trump from the WH crying and screaming like they would any other crazy man who illegally refuses to leave.

Stop giving Trump God Emperor like power. None of this process requires Trump to concede or his active assistance. He doesn't choose to give up the Presidency his term ends at exactly noon on Jan 20th. Period. Then he is private citizen Trump illegally trespassing in the white house one of the most secure buildings in the world.

[Paladin]

21. Biden's crowd will be twice as big as trump's.

And trump won't attend.

[jimfields33]

28. We still have a serious pandemic

There will be no crowds. The swearing in may be private.

[Steelrolled]

23. The thought that Trump won't leave is just a joke by idiots

on social media. Of course they are now a major source of news.

[Suburban Warrior]

24. Trump will be...

...spending the rest of his presidency at Mar a Lardo and playing golf. I doubt he will be in anywhere near D.C. on Inauguration Day

[MyOwnPeace]

29. My thought exactly..........

he'll be there by Thanksgiving and not be seen in DC ever again.........

[grobertj]

25. As CIC, President Biden would have access to just a bit more

than the Secret Service. It seems to me I read somewhere that the military has quite a few troops.

[kskiska]

26. His stuff has to be removed from the White House

by the time the new residents arrive after the swearing in. It's usually done in a very short time. Of course, I'm sure most outgoing presidents begin this process earlier.

[Iwasthere]

27. He'll go

The crowd clapped Bush's departure during Obama's historic [link:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158275777518113&id=795858112| Inauguration