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WTF. JUSTICE ASSHOLE ALITO IS TELLING PA TO PUT BALLOTS ASIDE!!!!!!! (Original Post) a kennedy Nov 2020 OP
WHICH ballots? regnaD kciN Nov 2020 #1
Sorry, it's on, and I only heard a snippet a kennedy Nov 2020 #9
The late arriving ballots In It to Win It Nov 2020 #20
The state bdamomma Nov 2020 #34
Exactly! Agreed. In It to Win It Nov 2020 #43
The late arriving mail-in ballots that the SOS from PA already separated. Claustrum Nov 2020 #24
As far as I know, the totals we're reading don't even include them yet, right? regnaD kciN Nov 2020 #31
I don't know if they are counted. But PA SOS said they separated them already. Claustrum Nov 2020 #40
These Are Not RobinA Nov 2020 #61
These Are Not RobinA Nov 2020 #62
The ballots received after election day but mailed Bev54 Nov 2020 #29
Details Please? BlueIdaho Nov 2020 #2
Sorry, on CNN now, and I guess it is just a blip. a kennedy Nov 2020 #17
It's okay. They've been doing this already. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #23
Ok - I'm up to speed now... BlueIdaho Nov 2020 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueIdaho Nov 2020 #35
See my reply above Bev54 Nov 2020 #33
Thank You! BlueIdaho Nov 2020 #39
Not a big deal. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #3
This Aepps22 Nov 2020 #6
Agreed. The PA SoS was doing this anyway DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #7
Yeah, seems unnecessary since they're doing it soothsayer Nov 2020 #15
thats not new. drray23 Nov 2020 #4
OrangeJuliusCeasar doesn't know that.. so it will get him to STFU! hahah n/T JustFiveMoreMinutes Nov 2020 #45
no he didn't give the rethugs what they wanted Beaverhausen Nov 2020 #5
They are saying to keep them segregated but one thing I didn't understand..... leftofthestorm Nov 2020 #8
The Circuit Judge from the Supreme Court does not make a decision alone. Blue_true Nov 2020 #52
There is no stopping us! mysteryowl Nov 2020 #10
They were already doing that. madaboutharry Nov 2020 #11
+1. This is no big deal. n/t Laelth Nov 2020 #38
Not exactly. He said to separate them but go ahead and count them while he takes the Claustrum Nov 2020 #12
They've been sequestering ballots for two days. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #13
I knew someone was going to post something like this eleny Nov 2020 #14
It was me that put this stupid post....sorry...just caught a snippet and it kinda freaked me out. a kennedy Nov 2020 #27
Hey, it's been a weird four years eleny Nov 2020 #46
Thank you. a kennedy Nov 2020 #50
This is Trump pretending to file a serious suit.. ananda Nov 2020 #55
Sounds like his grifting tactics! eleny Nov 2020 #57
they can still count brettdale Nov 2020 #16
More info please. Is he speaking as official spokesman for SCOTUS or personal input? nt WePurrsevere Nov 2020 #18
I think you missed the part about them being an inconsequential amount. whttevrr Nov 2020 #19
andddd... whttevrr Nov 2020 #36
You sure seem to like spreading the despair. ZZenith Nov 2020 #21
Please put some context BlueInPhilly Nov 2020 #22
Kind of alarmist without much info. marmar Nov 2020 #25
I know, so sorry.....just freaked when I heard asshole ALITO was involved..... a kennedy Nov 2020 #32
That was in their ruling from late last week. And PA had been putting ballots aside post marked on Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #26
it's cool. It's not stopping the count. Just keeping them separate Roland99 Nov 2020 #28
Calm down. Stand and Fight Nov 2020 #37
Right, I just get another glass of wine. a kennedy Nov 2020 #53
Take the President-Elect's advice and just lay back and enjoy the show. Stand and Fight Nov 2020 #56
and I know you're right, I'm just wanting it to END and Joe/Kamala the a kennedy Nov 2020 #59
I'm actually right there with you. Totally. Having to take my own advice. Stand and Fight Nov 2020 #63
Bro, they've been doing this already since Tuesday. PTWB Nov 2020 #41
From WaPo: spanone Nov 2020 #42
Thank you, thank you, thank you. a kennedy Nov 2020 #48
We are all shot...♥️ spanone Nov 2020 #51
Please don't start a panic over a decision you don't understand. Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #44
So sorry, so sorry, so sorry..... a kennedy Nov 2020 #47
The PA ballots were already segregated. Saboburns Nov 2020 #49
and thank you.......my nerves are shot I see Alito's name and freak out. a kennedy Nov 2020 #58
Nothing to be worried about BGBD Nov 2020 #54
Scared the shit outta me! Ligyron Nov 2020 #60
So what? They were doing this already in Rice4VP Nov 2020 #64
Laughing at this thread Catherine Vincent Nov 2020 #65
I generally prefer to do some research before posting an OP AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #66

In It to Win It

(8,236 posts)
20. The late arriving ballots
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:59 PM
Nov 2020

Pennsylvania SOS was already doing that.

If you recall the Pennsylvania Supreme Court gave 3 days after election day to get the late arriving ballots that were postmarked by election day.

So it's up in the air on whether those would ultimately be counted.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
24. The late arriving mail-in ballots that the SOS from PA already separated.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:00 PM
Nov 2020

GoP wanted them separated and not counted. Alito said separate them but go ahead and count them while he takes the whole emergency case to the full SC.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
40. I don't know if they are counted. But PA SOS said they separated them already.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:03 PM
Nov 2020

I think it would be irresponsible to include them in the total without separate mentions since they know there is a current lawsuit. But I don't know the details of it either, whether they are counted at all.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
61. These Are Not
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:35 PM
Nov 2020

the provisional ballots. These are actual ballots mailed to people who requested them that were returned too late to make it by Election Day. The provisional ballots have always been a thing. These late arrivers in big numbers have never been an issue in PA because we didn’t have mail ins except for absentee until this year.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
62. These Are Not
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:35 PM
Nov 2020

the provisional ballots. These are actual ballots mailed to people who requested them that were returned too late to make it by Election Day. The provisional ballots have always been a thing. These late arrivers in big numbers have never been an issue in PA because we didn’t have mail ins except for absentee until this year.

Bev54

(10,047 posts)
29. The ballots received after election day but mailed
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:01 PM
Nov 2020

on or before, in case they hear a case to throw them out. They were already segregating them and I would like to hear the number so we know how many. PA officials are saying there are not that many. This is not unexpected. The repubs wanted them to stop counting all together and SCOTUS said no.

Response to a kennedy (Reply #17)

drray23

(7,627 posts)
4. thats not new.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:57 PM
Nov 2020

these particular ballots have been put aside days ago.
does not change anything. its a small number.

leftofthestorm

(938 posts)
8. They are saying to keep them segregated but one thing I didn't understand.....
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:57 PM
Nov 2020

was that Alito is going to take this to the whole court.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
52. The Circuit Judge from the Supreme Court does not make a decision alone.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:09 PM
Nov 2020

The Judge may request that plaintiff and defendants do a specific action, but that is not a decision. That Judge then take the matter before the entire Supreme Court and they make a decision, the Circuit Supreme Court then either grant or deny the plaintiff’s requests.

Each Supreme Court Judge serves on a Circuit, some more than one, there are 13 Circuit Courts and 9 Supreme Court Justices.

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
11. They were already doing that.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:58 PM
Nov 2020

This was late arriving ballots. It’s a small amount of ballots. No one is too excited about it.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
12. Not exactly. He said to separate them but go ahead and count them while he takes the
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:58 PM
Nov 2020

emergency case to the whole SC. The GoP wanted them separated and not counted. So Alito didn't give GoP everything they wanted.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
14. I knew someone was going to post something like this
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:58 PM
Nov 2020

This will make no difference. There aren't enough of those ballots to change the results.
This is according to the convo they had on MSNBC about this decision.

So that's wtf is happening. Nothing. It gives no benefit to Trump.

a kennedy

(29,647 posts)
27. It was me that put this stupid post....sorry...just caught a snippet and it kinda freaked me out.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:00 PM
Nov 2020

So sorry.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
46. Hey, it's been a weird four years
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:05 PM
Nov 2020

You're okay - I'm okay. It's all good. Biden will be prez elect.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
55. This is Trump pretending to file a serious suit..
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:12 PM
Nov 2020

.. so he can have his followers donate to his defense
and keep their heads full of CT’s for more grifting
and manipulation.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
19. I think you missed the part about them being an inconsequential amount.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:59 PM
Nov 2020

The Lt. Governor just went through the whole thing and he was basically saying:

This could have all been avoided if we were allowed to prep the ballots, and trump needs to get ready to leave because PA is going blue.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
22. Please put some context
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:00 PM
Nov 2020

This kind of post is not helpful and incites fear. We are already all stressed out. Thank you.

marmar

(77,073 posts)
25. Kind of alarmist without much info.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:00 PM
Nov 2020

From the description presented on Joy Reid's show, this means nothing.


Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
26. That was in their ruling from late last week. And PA had been putting ballots aside post marked on
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:00 PM
Nov 2020

Election Day But arrived after.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
28. it's cool. It's not stopping the count. Just keeping them separate
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:00 PM
Nov 2020

Meh, I'll call this good news from Alito. Basically this SCOTUS case was
GOP: We want to get ballots received after ED separated
Alito: Isn't that what's happening?
GOP: Yes. But can you say it again?
Alito: Okay. It is said again.
GOP: What about...
Alito: Shut up.


Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
56. Take the President-Elect's advice and just lay back and enjoy the show.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:13 PM
Nov 2020

We've been waiting four years for this time. A few more hours or days is going to make the victory -- once fully confirmed -- all the more sweet.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
63. I'm actually right there with you. Totally. Having to take my own advice.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:59 AM
Nov 2020

Personally, I think the media and it's statisticians are being way too paranoid. This is beyond careful. It's becoming laughable. I mean, Alaska hasn't been called for Trump yet and we all know exactly how it's going to go. It's becoming very hard to listen to them prattle on as if Trump stands a chance. So, I understand the frustration, my friend.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
41. Bro, they've been doing this already since Tuesday.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:04 PM
Nov 2020

Alito is ordering them to do what they’d be been doing already.

spanone

(135,823 posts)
42. From WaPo:
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:04 PM
Nov 2020
Even if the high court were to ultimately side with Republicans, the impact would likely be muted: Pennsylvania officials said they are already setting aside the small number of mail ballots that have arrived since Tuesday.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pennsylvania-ballots-gop/2020/11/06/064fdf94-2056-11eb-90dd-abd0f7086a91_story.html

a kennedy

(29,647 posts)
48. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:07 PM
Nov 2020

Am so sorry, just saw it, and freaked, my nerves are shot. So sorry.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
44. Please don't start a panic over a decision you don't understand.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:04 PM
Nov 2020

The requirement to keep the ballots segregated was made several days ago. That's the batch of ballots they have been discussing all day as being unable to start counting until 5 PM today.

Trump had asked that they be barred from counting them - that request was not granted. The ballots are already segregated. This changes nothng - at least yet.

In addition - the SOS said that the number of ballots at issue is minimal, and unlikely to change anything whehter they are ultimately included or not.

The next step is for the court to decide whether to hear the challenge. My guess is that when the SOS responds with the numbers of ballots involved and the reality that no matter what the court decides it will not change the outcome the court will decide the appeal is factually moot. Generally, courts don't issue advisory opinions (opinions that advise future disputes when there is no current dispute to resolve.



Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
49. The PA ballots were already segregated.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:08 PM
Nov 2020

Alito's order is an order to do something that they've already been doing. No biggie. At all.

However the WingNuts will celebrate their big "win" like it's YUGE. Cause that's what they know: lying.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
54. Nothing to be worried about
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:11 PM
Nov 2020

The late arriving ballots are nominal. We are talking about a few hundred or maybe a thousand ballots. Nothing that will change the race.

Furthermore, they are probably more R than other mail in ballots so they are probably close to a wash anyway.

Biden is leading in every contested state right now, R's should be scream to count every vote.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
64. So what? They were doing this already in
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:00 AM
Nov 2020

anticipation of such a ruling. It’s a few thousand votes, Biden is up by like 27,000 already

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
66. I generally prefer to do some research before posting an OP
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:02 AM
Nov 2020

that would alarm people.

Pennsylvania had argued that they would set aside ballots received after election day and count them separately. Alito agreed.
No ballots are being thrown out and Trump lost the appeal to the SCOTUS.

This is a victory for our side.

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