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redStateBlueHeart

(265 posts)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:28 PM Nov 2020

Bush v. Gore 2000 election results - what was the "waiting game" like for you?

I was in middle school in 2000 so I didn’t follow politics. The past 3 nights have been the longest month ever - watching the votes trickle in is like waiting for paint to dry.

For those who voted in 2000 or have a better memory than I do: what was it like waiting for the race to be called?

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Bush v. Gore 2000 election results - what was the "waiting game" like for you? (Original Post) redStateBlueHeart Nov 2020 OP
I was a young man in my Libertarian phase . . . Chichiri Nov 2020 #1
I don't mind the waiting much but in 2000 I was very disappointed in the outcome. abqtommy Nov 2020 #2
It was unnerving. I did not expect the Supreme Court to call it. onecaliberal Nov 2020 #3
Well, we weren't ellie Nov 2020 #4
It was disgusting - wow, 20 years ago! NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #5
36 days of anxiety. High stress levels. Disbelief. Shock. Anger. Solly Mack Nov 2020 #6
I knew the repukes would steal it lapfog_1 Nov 2020 #7
Yes! Bush v. Gore is what brought be to DU! Scully Nov 2020 #13
I don't really remember sakabatou Nov 2020 #8
The effed-upness of that election is making me unable to sleep this week Scully Nov 2020 #9
How long did the process go on for? redStateBlueHeart Nov 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Scully Nov 2020 #10
Ugh... Chicago1980 Nov 2020 #11
Hell choie Nov 2020 #12
Painful. Bushco ran the better strategy, so Gore was always reacting rather than leading. marylandblue Nov 2020 #14
It was never really called. It was a mess in countless ways... blitzen Nov 2020 #15
Ooh, I'll have to find a good book to add to my Kindle queue redStateBlueHeart Nov 2020 #19
Very unpleasant. LisaL Nov 2020 #16
I blocked most of it out of my mind Catherine Vincent Nov 2020 #17
I was dating a Republican at the time. We broke up before the Supreme Court decided. tinrobot Nov 2020 #20
I went out with an attractive blonde way back in '09 who said on the first date Obama Jspur Nov 2020 #29
Much worse than this. Goodheart Nov 2020 #21
It was awful. Lived in FL at the time. JanMichael Nov 2020 #22
Took 35 days DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #32
I was working until around 9 or 10 Polybius Nov 2020 #23
I remember Bush telling Gore on the phone call that his brother had told Jspur Nov 2020 #27
I was in a white rage at Nader, one that simmered moonscape Nov 2020 #24
I remember thinking... DrToast Nov 2020 #25
And then 2016 was like, "Hold my beer". redStateBlueHeart Nov 2020 #35
I was a senior in Hschool and didn't want Bush to Jspur Nov 2020 #26
It was infuriating because I already knew how it was going to go down AND Jamastiene Nov 2020 #28
I was busy MissB Nov 2020 #30
Interminable DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #31
It really sucked for me. I was in Italy with a redneck asshole fraud on a business trip when... NNadir Nov 2020 #33
We have a loooong way to go ibegurpard Nov 2020 #34

Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
1. I was a young man in my Libertarian phase . . .
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:30 PM
Nov 2020

. . . so I had the perspective of an outsider. It was just kinda cool seeing things drag out -- until I realized what assholes the GOP were doing. This was a contributing factor to my becoming a progressive.

ellie

(6,928 posts)
4. Well, we weren't
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:32 PM
Nov 2020

locked down in a pandemic so I was having a normal life. Friends, work, family. And the internet was not what it is today so that part was different. We live our lives online now. I didn't even have a cell phone in 2000!

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
5. It was disgusting - wow, 20 years ago!
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:32 PM
Nov 2020

Far worse than this. In a way, this has been quite exciting - my complete hatred of trump is deeper than my hatred of Dubya - evil vs stupid, perhaps - and I just didn't think Gore fought hard enough.

This is worth waiting for, agonizing as it is (I was 44 back then...yikes - more hair, stressful job, stressful daughters! Life sure is different now...)

lapfog_1

(29,193 posts)
7. I knew the repukes would steal it
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:34 PM
Nov 2020

I turned off the news and was very angry at

1. People who said "there really isn't any difference between Bush and Gore
2. Ralph Nader and the Green Party (I was IN the Green Party but voted Democratic... and I changed my party afflation right then)
3. Hanging chads the the ballots the misaligned names
4. The operatives posing as Miami Dade residents and the "Brooks Brothers riot"

Not too longer after that I found Democratic Underground.

Scully

(60 posts)
13. Yes! Bush v. Gore is what brought be to DU!
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:41 PM
Nov 2020

Re:

Not too longer after that I found Democratic Underground.


Me too! I am the ultimate lurker- I've been around for a very long time but not a huge poster... but this site kept me sane. The Top 10 Conservative Idiots was the highlight of my week sometimes!

Scully

(60 posts)
9. The effed-upness of that election is making me unable to sleep this week
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:36 PM
Nov 2020

I remember going to bed, happy at Gore's lead and presumptive win.... and woke the next morning with that sucker punch WTF. I keep having nightmares that I will go to bed and wake up the next morning to a similar situation. I'm not worried about the court cases- it's nothing like Bush v. Gore. I'm worried about faithless electors. I'm worried about assassination attempts. I'm worried about what the loose cannon tRump will do between now and Jan 20 to further eff up this nation. But I'm not worried about court cases- and that's a big difference between this and 2000.

redStateBlueHeart

(265 posts)
18. How long did the process go on for?
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:26 AM
Nov 2020

How much time passed between election night and the recount + SCOTUS ruling?

From what I understand this election isn’t super similar to 2000 (I hope) and I don’t think Biden would ever stop a recount. I was having 2016 flashbacks on Tuesday night due to the “red mirage”

Response to redStateBlueHeart (Original post)

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
11. Ugh...
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:37 PM
Nov 2020

It was the first presidential election I was eligible to vote for.

I didn't follow politics as closely as I was in school, but i knew Bush was a dumb-ass and would be a bad president.

I don't remember the wait, but I remember the khaki bitches and their protesting... I remember Katherine Harris who was basically the pam Bondi of 2000.

I wasn't nearly as emotionally involved back then...

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
14. Painful. Bushco ran the better strategy, so Gore was always reacting rather than leading.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:44 PM
Nov 2020

At least this time, I don't feel Biden is just reacting. He knew this was coming and seems prepared.

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
15. It was never really called. It was a mess in countless ways...
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:44 PM
Nov 2020

Back then, when I used to print out things from the World Wide Web, I had a whole file cabinet full of stuff that happened. I can't remember it all. But I do remember that Pat Buchanan, anti-Semite, got thousands more votes in heavily Jewish Palm Beach Co., a way bigger percentage there than anywhere else. Yes, the famous "butterfly ballot" screw up. BUT--and this is the damn shame of it all--Florida law permitted a panel of judges to examine those irrational results and correct them. That would have given Gore the presidency. But the Florida Secretary of State, Gov., and various Courts just acted like that law did not exist. It was a tragedy. Many more nefarious things contributed as well. There are no doubt several good books that recount the whole debacle.

Catherine Vincent

(34,486 posts)
17. I blocked most of it out of my mind
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:53 PM
Nov 2020

It was a horrible mess. Most did not know it would take the USSC to install Bush in the White House. They stole it from Gore. Bush, the republicans and their PR team created the narrative that was positive for Bush and of course negative for Gore. With the help of Bush's brother and that attorney general (can't remember her name) and...after the USSC gave it to Bush, I lost a little respect for those judges. At the time I did not realize judges can be partisan. And if it was 5-4 in favor of Gore, I would have felt the same way because imo, it should have been 9-0 in favor of Gore.

tinrobot

(10,887 posts)
20. I was dating a Republican at the time. We broke up before the Supreme Court decided.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:33 AM
Nov 2020

I know... I know... we all make mistakes. She was the LAST Republican I ever dated.

Jspur

(578 posts)
29. I went out with an attractive blonde way back in '09 who said on the first date Obama
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:12 AM
Nov 2020

was the spawn of Satan. I laughed at first and she responded "No seriously I really do believe he is." Once she said that statement I made up my mind this relationship is not going be a long term relationship.

JanMichael

(24,874 posts)
22. It was awful. Lived in FL at the time.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:35 AM
Nov 2020

Once the news people started with closeups of hanging chads I almost exploded a gasket. Then the FL supreme Court said go then the supreme court said stop. Baker's ugly face pontificating on types of votes and allowable errors. Buchanan dancing around like the 4th reich was coming. Shitty Palm Beach County elections employees that designed the WORST ballot ever. Street corners full of Bush Bush Bush screaming. Smug conservative churchy people all over the place. I forgot how long it took, two or three weeks of hell? It was awful.

Polybius

(15,336 posts)
23. I was working until around 9 or 10
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:56 AM
Nov 2020

Tried to watch the results on the TV at work, but couldn't wait to get home (no smartphones then lol). I got home and turned on Headline News (damn I loved that old network), and then AOL and went on the world wide web to surf the 'net as we said then.

It was close, but Bush won and I was like "wow, first Republican President since I was a kid." Gore conceded. Then like an hour later Florida was pulled, and Gore took back his concession in a nasty phone call ("Don't get testy!" said Gore to Bush). I watched and watched and then went to bed. The next day it rocked the world! There was intense debate. The next couple of days brought recount after recount, with the results changing every time. A month passed, and finally the SC stopped any further recounts.

I'll never forget it as long as I live. 200 years from now, it will be the subject of debate with hanging chads and all.

Jspur

(578 posts)
27. I remember Bush telling Gore on the phone call that his brother had told
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:10 AM
Nov 2020

him he had votes to win Florida and Gore yelling at him "Your brother is not the final authority on this matter."

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
25. I remember thinking...
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:05 AM
Nov 2020

At the time it was happening I remember thinking, "Wow...this is historic. This might be the biggest story I'll ever witness in my lifetime."

Less than a year later: 9/11.

Guess not.

Jspur

(578 posts)
26. I was a senior in Hschool and didn't want Bush to
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:08 AM
Nov 2020

win. He reminded me too much of these dumb spoiled upper middle class douchebags I went to school with. I didn't think he deserved the presidency. Even at a young age I thought supply side was stupid and that Bush would bring the country back on it whenwe managed to get off of it with Clinton. It was also personal for me in the sense I didn't want to go to college and was strongly considering going to the army but I was going to base the decision off of the election. I felt Bush was a dumbass that would cause us to go to war with Iraq simply because he wanted to get revenge on Sadaam for what happened with his father Bush Sr. So I had already made the decision in my mind that if Bush won I would not go to the army but if Gore won I would enlist to join the army. I was pretty anxious about the results and hoping and praying Gore would come through. Unfortunately everything I feared about a Bush presidency happened. I wouldn't call myself Nostradamus since these dumb ass republican presidents are pretty predictable.

One thing I will say is I was shocked back then to see nearly half of the country vote for this dumbass Bush. Sounds familiar right but the '00 election opened my eyes to how stupid this country truly is. It's the reason why 20 years later I'm not shocked Trump got nearly half of the votes.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
28. It was infuriating because I already knew how it was going to go down AND
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:11 AM
Nov 2020

the AND is the most important part, that we would be asked to "accept" the inevitable sham SCOTUS perpetrated on voters.

I despised it then.
I despised it through the years.
I STILL despise it now, because look what it has gotten us.

If it happens again, I will despise it again.
And never think it cannot happen again.

Honestly, I have my doubts in the back of my mind it might happen again, only this time, they will say don't count the votes of several states instead of one state.

I guess I still have some trauma from 2000 lingering in my mind to fear that. People keep telling me, surely, that won't happen again. This is different. They GOTTA count the votes. There is no way SCOTUS would do that. Trump is toast for sure. They obviously missed that episode of horrors Democrats have to put up with from Republicans, weren't there, or refused to read about the horrors that happened then. It happened before. It could happen again.

They sure didn't make sure all votes were counted in 2000. They installed Bush after he went running and whining to them and our votes meant zilch. That is precedent, which means they would possibly do it again.

Now, with all this talk of "illegal" votes, which at this point appears to be mail-in ballots, mostly DEMOCRATIC ballots legally cast, the way states said voters could cast their vote this time around, I'm beginning to wonder if SCOTUS is going to screw us again. This SCOTUS isn't exactly a level playing field right now. Precedent says SCOTUS will screw voters. So, it's in the back of my mind.

2000 was extremely infuriating to me. The being told to eat crow and "accept" the "results" was actually the second worst part too. It was the salt in the wounds.

MissB

(15,804 posts)
30. I was busy
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:49 AM
Nov 2020

I’d left my career two months before, stepping out of the workforce because daycare wasn’t working for my young kids (15 months and 2.5 years).

So I was too busy to obsessively track every development. I knew what was going on and it sucked but honestly I was quite distracted with two small kids.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
31. Interminable
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:51 AM
Nov 2020

I haven't respected Nader since that day. Everyone knew what a "butterfly" ballot and "hanging chad" were.

I remember printing out Justice Stevens' scathing dissent. The SCOTUS majority was so embarrassed about their decision to stop the vote counting, Bush vs Gore actually says it cannot be used as precedent for any subsequent court cases ever.

NNadir

(33,475 posts)
33. It really sucked for me. I was in Italy with a redneck asshole fraud on a business trip when...
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 04:18 AM
Nov 2020

...it started.

He kept carrying on how Bush won.

For business reasons I had to tolerate that fucking asshole with whom I was traveling.

Happily his career, happily for me, went to shit. After he was assigned one of my projects by my boss at the time, the leading contact at the client company called me at home, on my private line to ask me, "Who is this asshole, anyway?"

My company, which I quit, lost all the business I had been doing for them, tens of millions of dollars.

However the outcome of that election destroyed the lives of millions of people. The 2000 election was a tragedy from which the country has yet to recover. The damage done however pales in comparison to the damage done by Trump/McConnell.

I am hoping that McConnell - as evidenced by his hands - is fatally ill and kicks off, and that Beshear appoints a Democrat to replace him, this to save our country.

I hate McConnell that much. I can't recall when I hoped for a fatal illness for anyone, but if there is anyone, McConnell would be it.

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