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BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:38 AM Nov 2020

I hope to see the Trump family absolutely ruined.

Them losing the election just isn’t enough for me.

After these assholes have robbed four years of all our lives with their corruption, incompetence, and depravity, I feel vengeful as hell.

I want their reputations and businesses to be destroyed. I want investigations into their years of criminality.

That orange fuck should not just be allowed to retire into the sunset with the usual perks afforded to an ex-president. He and his horrid family need to be vanquished from public life.

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I hope to see the Trump family absolutely ruined. (Original Post) BlueStater Nov 2020 OP
Exactly what you said . CatMor Nov 2020 #1
As a second option, I'd accept never hearing a peep from that entire family again. n/t forgotmylogin Nov 2020 #39
Have their social media accounts closed. Forever. fierywoman Nov 2020 #43
Yes, that would be like heaven. CatMor Nov 2020 #93
Romans 12:19 Captain_New_York Nov 2020 #89
Psalm 109 8:15 Xipe Totec Nov 2020 #124
May what he did... zentrum Nov 2020 #125
K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2020 #2
I posted this here before: ret5hd Nov 2020 #3
...and all his "friends" disavowing knowing him. Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #68
Trump doesn't have friends. He has accomplices. N/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #126
That's delicious. I'll sleep better having experienced that vision. jaxexpat Nov 2020 #77
id love to see him go through endless appeals with that and being denied . AllaN01Bear Nov 2020 #86
Oh, he'd be approved immediately for SSDI nt intrepidity Nov 2020 #113
Me, too! ARPad95 Nov 2020 #4
im really afraid Squidly Nov 2020 #5
He already said he isn't going to do that lunatica Nov 2020 #28
My sentiments exactly. Paladin Nov 2020 #6
Eric is a natural Turbineguy Nov 2020 #51
Lol. GB_RN Nov 2020 #65
You're right! Turbineguy Nov 2020 #74
in my county they would wear either traditional horizontal AllaN01Bear Nov 2020 #91
Most used car salesmen are decent people, not the way the stereotype is. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #97
They probably will be. Turbineguy Nov 2020 #7
And when there is no more pay for play, I bet those Barr $35,000 Christmas parties ResistantAmerican17 Nov 2020 #26
Stay Away From Upper-Story Windows, Donald... The Mafiya Has NO Tolerance For Deadbeats nt smb Nov 2020 #121
Oh hell yeah I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2020 #8
They will be. Half a billion of debt is the tip of the iceburg. joshcryer Nov 2020 #9
I want them all to sink to the bottom liberalmuse Nov 2020 #10
Karma will work her magic. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2020 #11
Loathsome human beings-and I use that term loosely (not the loathsome part) Dread Pirate Roberts Nov 2020 #12
More than vanquished-- flor-de-jasmim Nov 2020 #13
Great points. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #103
Ivanka can go sell more Goya gohuskies Nov 2020 #14
They stole billions. Johnny2X2X Nov 2020 #15
Except for Mary Trump, I agree still_one Nov 2020 #16
+1 pandr32 Nov 2020 #54
I want Cokehead Junior picking up litter on the highway wearing an orange jumpsuit hatrack Nov 2020 #17
Make sure someone is filming this Blue Owl Nov 2020 #22
Hell yeah! LuvNewcastle Nov 2020 #101
I want to sit next to you while we watch it, lol stopwastingmymoney Nov 2020 #128
We should not make him a martyr Cicada Nov 2020 #18
No witch hunts qdouble Nov 2020 #30
Lady justice has scales as well as a blindfold Cicada Nov 2020 #45
The only thing I want to see having the Trump name on it is his headstone when his day comes. usaf-vet Nov 2020 #42
Yes, there are mentally ill people in this country. This person is one of them. gristy Nov 2020 #72
They are vile criminals Yeehah Nov 2020 #19
+1000 llmart Nov 2020 #20
They had their little moment, at our expense Blue Owl Nov 2020 #21
They have been ruined for a generation Demovictory9 Nov 2020 #23
A refrigerator box under a bridge comes to mind. lamp_shade Nov 2020 #24
I hope that AG Letitia James dedicates the rest of her life prosecuting them on the various crimes.. George II Nov 2020 #25
The environment will thank you. JohnnyRingo Nov 2020 #27
Amen hot2na Nov 2020 #29
I could not agree more. warmfeet Nov 2020 #31
Of course, but almost impossible. If it helps, if worst comes to worst Hortensis Nov 2020 #32
I'll be satisfied to see every last ounce of karma paid in full lunatica Nov 2020 #33
Not President Biden's call DeSmet Nov 2020 #34
I want Trump on tape calling his supporters stupid and saying he despises them. Lonestarblue Nov 2020 #35
That would put a huge dent in his cult following as in the movie "Face in the Crowd" Peregrine Took Nov 2020 #41
I disagree DeanMH Nov 2020 #36
I want history to remember the name of MF45 as synomous with Benedict Arnold kimbutgar Nov 2020 #37
Bill Maher yesterday listed all of them in his "Memorial" segment question everything Nov 2020 #38
I fear his getting 70 million+ votes may intimidate the new administration Peregrine Took Nov 2020 #40
Yes, he got more votes than Barack Obama did believe it or not. totodeinhere Nov 2020 #60
He and his whole family need to be extra careful. Putin may order a hit to prevent blabbermouth... machoneman Nov 2020 #44
Or he might go into exile in Russia. totodeinhere Nov 2020 #61
I just want to see all of them get the same justice as the rest of us. Grammy23 Nov 2020 #46
Trump living on Social Security would make a good reality show, but revenue from the show 1plus1equals1 Nov 2020 #47
I genuinely believe Trump and his criminal children will flee the US and seek PatrickforO Nov 2020 #48
On Jan 20th - officials need to serve them with court orders to seize their passports. nt iluvtennis Nov 2020 #50
Siberia is nice this time of year. Dios Mio Nov 2020 #53
+ agree. Karma is coming their way including Melanoma and Jared. nt iluvtennis Nov 2020 #49
Nuremberg tiptonic Nov 2020 #52
But actually what will happen in my opinion is that he will pull a Grover Cleveland and totodeinhere Nov 2020 #55
I don't think so VA_Jill Nov 2020 #59
Don't count on it. According to actuarial tables he probably has at least another totodeinhere Nov 2020 #63
He has a galloping case of frontotemporal dementia. He has trouble talking, drinking, walking now. diane in sf Nov 2020 #104
Come on. Only as physician could diagnose that. n/t totodeinhere Nov 2020 #145
I think by 2024 he'll be so declined that it won't be possible. Gore1FL Nov 2020 #62
He's already declined but he managed to serve out a four year term. totodeinhere Nov 2020 #66
He is getting physically weaker. He was even cutting the rallies short JI7 Nov 2020 #71
"Weekend At Donnie's" nt smb Nov 2020 #122
Oh VA_Jill Nov 2020 #56
I cannot wait for the document dump. Gore1FL Nov 2020 #57
Trump Has The Shredder Ready OhioTim Nov 2020 #73
Personally, I think that Putin is going Dan Nov 2020 #58
I get that folks seek vengence against the Trumps vlyons Nov 2020 #64
If convicted of a federal crime, would he continue to receive his presidential pension, or not? totodeinhere Nov 2020 #94
Asset forfeiture. Would be so fitting. calimary Nov 2020 #138
Trump's financial house of cards... Jon King Nov 2020 #67
The Trump Crime Family OhioTim Nov 2020 #69
Does Ivanka look good in orange? McCamy Taylor Nov 2020 #70
preferably by prison terms! lastlib Nov 2020 #75
They need to be held accountable. StarryNite Nov 2020 #76
Can we include their GOP cronies too? Investigations may just help dreamland Nov 2020 #78
Lock them UP Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #79
rendered penniless and powerless or they WILL stoke a cult rebellion. nt Grasswire2 Nov 2020 #80
I knew (or perhaps know is technically accurate) a person so much like Drumpf that it's frightening. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #81
I want them GONE. Period. DinahMoeHum Nov 2020 #82
Donald Jr Demovictory9 Nov 2020 #83
There needs to be consequences!! Catch2.2 Nov 2020 #84
From your monitor to Karma's checklist. sarge43 Nov 2020 #85
So do I. Any gutter in NYC will do fine for them. Autumn Nov 2020 #87
Yes. yardwork Nov 2020 #88
FINISH THEM!!! LovingA2andMI Nov 2020 #90
Me too. Also I'd like to see Trumpism destroyed. Lanius Nov 2020 #92
Preach It Brothers and Sisters!!!!! OverBurn Nov 2020 #95
I want to see this January 20th heading to the White House Dukkha Nov 2020 #96
I like Mary Trump WestLosAngelesGal Nov 2020 #98
And ALL of their enablers around them. WyattKansas Nov 2020 #99
I wish our country was more vindictive of those who have tried to destroy our country. BComplex Nov 2020 #100
New York Is Itching To Get At Him colsohlibgal Nov 2020 #102
Scorch the earth, salt what's left, and banish it from memory obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #105
I want every crime uncovered and paid for. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #106
Everything seized to pay off his .... Brainfodder Nov 2020 #107
Absolutely. LucasD Nov 2020 #108
Amen sellitman Nov 2020 #109
I wholeheartedly agree. SergeStorms Nov 2020 #110
...because if they aren't.... 2024 intrepidity Nov 2020 #111
Me too. C Moon Nov 2020 #112
Blue...he will never have another good day...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2020 #114
That's a good start. Progressive dog Nov 2020 #115
this llashram Nov 2020 #116
A reality show on Fox OxQQme Nov 2020 #117
BlueStater.... Upthevibe Nov 2020 #118
My wish is for the full unraveling summer_in_TX Nov 2020 #119
I want to see him living penniless in a disused refrigerator box on a sidewalk in the Bronx pecosbob Nov 2020 #120
all they do is sell their last name...i don't believe that they are gonna make much money everyone dawn5651 Nov 2020 #123
He should face any actual charges we can prove and go to prison. TigressDem Nov 2020 #127
Id like to see every grifted penny returned to the US Treasury. And every crime prosecuted. bullimiami Nov 2020 #129
I want them to suffer the fate drmeow Nov 2020 #130
I protested Nixon and saw him get away with it Jarqui Nov 2020 #131
I remember President elect Biden saying he would not "stand in the way" MasonDreams Nov 2020 #132
Controlling the Senate would really help with the investigations AdamGG Nov 2020 #133
All in. ffr Nov 2020 #134
Agreed TlalocW Nov 2020 #135
My wish would be that we never, EVER hear one single word about them again. n/t ailsagirl Nov 2020 #136
RE kicked and RE recommended. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2020 #137
This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Nov 2020 #139
Hell yeah.. this is just the start Cha Nov 2020 #140
Exactly. People should wear garlic around them and not see them after dark. kairos12 Nov 2020 #141
k&r n/t lordsummerisle Nov 2020 #142
TOTAL ASSET FORFEITURE! HAB911 Nov 2020 #143
Spot on. honest.abe Nov 2020 #144

Captain_New_York

(161 posts)
89. Romans 12:19
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:32 PM
Nov 2020

“Revenge not yourselves, my dearly beloved; but give place unto wrath, for it is written: Revenge is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord.”

I don’t mean that justice should not be meted out. But as a penalty for breaking the law and deter future lawbreaking.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
124. Psalm 109 8:15
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:56 PM
Nov 2020

8 May his days be few;
may another take his office.

9 May his children be fatherless
and his wife a widow.

10 May his children be wandering beggars;
may they be driven from their ruined homes.

11 May a creditor seize all he has;
may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.

12 May no one extend kindness to him
or take pity on his fatherless children.

13 May his descendants be cut off,
their names blotted out from the next generation.

14 May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the Lord;
may the sin of his mother never be blotted out.

15 May their sins always remain before the Lord,
that he may blot out their name from the earth.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
3. I posted this here before:
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:40 AM
Nov 2020

Financially forced to live in some Section 8 housing, minimal food stamps, scowled at every time he steps outside, his coked-up son stealing the loose change from the dresser every time he comes to visit, his daughter pushing a grocery cart with all her belongings while ranting at passerby, his phone going "beee-beee-beeeep the number you have dialed is no longer in service..." every time he tries to call Putin...etc etc etc.

Squidly

(783 posts)
5. im really afraid
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:41 AM
Nov 2020

that Joe will want to just move on and not push for them to be held accountable....THERE'S STILL NEW YORK THOUGH!!!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
28. He already said he isn't going to do that
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:38 AM
Nov 2020

Various times.

The thing about being a fair person is that holding people responsible and accountable is part and parcel of fairness.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
6. My sentiments exactly.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:43 AM
Nov 2020

The boys can end up as used car salesmen; Ivanka can go live with her patents in China....

GB_RN

(2,347 posts)
65. Lol.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:50 PM
Nov 2020

I’m not sure that they’d even be competent as used car salesmen. And while used car salesmen are a fun stereotype to make fun of, I’d hate to demean THAT by associating it with the likes of those two slimy bastards. 😁

AllaN01Bear

(18,162 posts)
91. in my county they would wear either traditional horizontal
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:33 PM
Nov 2020

alternating stripes of white and black, or a orange jumpsuit. both would be grand.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
97. Most used car salesmen are decent people, not the way the stereotype is.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:43 PM
Nov 2020

I've been buying all of my cars used for some time now, and feel I know what I'm talking about.

Turbineguy

(37,319 posts)
7. They probably will be.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:44 AM
Nov 2020

Last edited Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump has loans coming due and he will not have the US Treasury to steal the money from.

ResistantAmerican17

(3,801 posts)
26. And when there is no more pay for play, I bet those Barr $35,000 Christmas parties
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:29 AM
Nov 2020

at drumph properties don’t happen any more. No more Saudis renting entire floors and never showing up, no more loan bailouts for plastic man and his plastic princess. The list is as endless as the grifter family corruption.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
8. Oh hell yeah
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:44 AM
Nov 2020

Don't want any peace or comfort given to those traitors. I want them to dissapear in jail for the rest of their lives.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
10. I want them all to sink to the bottom
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:44 AM
Nov 2020

Never to resurface again. And to take everyone who anchored themselves to them with them. For the rest of their short, miserable lives, Amen.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
11. Karma will work her magic.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:46 AM
Nov 2020

For the evil never flourish. Nor do things end well. Paying the piper will be tough.

flor-de-jasmim

(2,125 posts)
13. More than vanquished--
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:49 AM
Nov 2020

I want every dime of taxpayer money returned. I want a moratorium on Jared's ability to evict people who are unable to pay their rent on time due to the crisis the Trumps created/exacerbated.

I want all the trademarks granted them in the past 4 years to be abolished.

I want reparations paid to every career federal employee who was forced to leave (or whose working conditions were made so horrible that they resigned), and I hope the Biden administration finds ways to recover the institutional memory (through hire-backs or some other means).

I want them to have to hand write and hand sign personalized letters of condolence to the families of every life lost under their watch, the content of which must include some personal aspect of the person's life to be memorialized.

I could go on and on.

I'm generally a pacifist, willing that people simply vanish into the ether without harming anyone on their way. Not this time. Not this cabal.

gohuskies

(1,156 posts)
14. Ivanka can go sell more Goya
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:51 AM
Nov 2020

Jared can continue his family tradition of going to prison. And Dumb (donald jr) and Dumber (eric) can grift some dumb rw contractor to build the tRump family wing at Supermax. Private suites for Stephen Miller, Bill Barr, Rudi G, Devin Nunes and Ron Johnson are included.

Johnny2X2X

(19,047 posts)
15. They stole billions.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:51 AM
Nov 2020

The backdoor deals will pay off. And they funneled trillions to their friends with the expectation of payback after he leaves office.

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
17. I want Cokehead Junior picking up litter on the highway wearing an orange jumpsuit
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:52 AM
Nov 2020

I want Gums pushing a broom in a prison kitchen.

I want Ivanka sucking cocks for pocket change in a Greyhound station bathroom in Omaha.

I want Fat Daddy hooked up to a defective Russian ventilator.

I want the Duchess of Nipple marooned on South Georgia so that she can be subjected to a mass pecking attack by king penguins before a bull elephant seal rolls over on top of her.

I want Jared to flee into the Brazilian rain forest, so that he can camp on top of a nest of bullet ants.



Cicada

(4,533 posts)
18. We should not make him a martyr
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:53 AM
Nov 2020

Most of his supporters are delusional, believing crazy things. You and I know the Trumps deserve ruination but if we completely destroy them about 100 million people will view that as horribly undeserved. Many of them will go berserk and resort to violence. A person visiting Los Angeles sat in the first row watching a musical performer in a chair. The performer crossed his legs and the visitor shot him dead. He was confused when arrested, explaining that the performer had pointed the bottom of his shoe at him. In his country that was an outrageous insult, exposing the bottom of your shoe to someone was the vilest insult imaginable. A lot of Trump supporters are basically as weird in their view of the world as that person. We don’t want to drive them to insane behavior.

Hornets will not react well to a stick in their nest even tho the bastards richly deserve it. I want to just ignore the Trumps except for seeking monetary damages for tax fraud and other frauds. We can ruin them financially for frauds, I think that will be enough.

qdouble

(891 posts)
30. No witch hunts
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:42 AM
Nov 2020

However, if they committed tons of crimes, why should law enforcement not investigate and possible prosecute?

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
45. Lady justice has scales as well as a blindfold
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:16 PM
Nov 2020

Lady Justice sits atop the courthouse blindfolded, holding a scale. You rightly argue for the blindfold, all should be treated equally. But justice also requires balancing the pros against the cons of a judgment. A judgment which causes more harm than good should be avoided. If prosecuting Trump would cause someone to detonate nuclear bombs should we do that? No. Sammy the Bull Gravano murdered people. But he was given a break in return for his testimony which brought down his entire crime family including his boss John Gotti. The greater good from not being fair to the victims of Sammy justified giving him a break.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
42. The only thing I want to see having the Trump name on it is his headstone when his day comes.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:04 PM
Nov 2020

And let's start with taking away ALL ex-president life long benefits. Not one cent, no SS protection, no presidential library, and never able to run for elected office again.

gristy

(10,667 posts)
72. Yes, there are mentally ill people in this country. This person is one of them.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:03 PM
Nov 2020

BTW, do you have a news report on this story? It sounds a might apocryphal.

Yeehah

(4,585 posts)
19. They are vile criminals
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:54 AM
Nov 2020

and must be punished for ALL of their crimes.

To deter other fascists. George AWOL Bush and his criminal cabal got off scot-free for trumping up an illegal war. See where that got us?

llmart

(15,536 posts)
20. +1000
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:54 AM
Nov 2020

I want to see Iwanka on a street corner somewhere holding a cardboard sign saying, "Will work for food."

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. I hope that AG Letitia James dedicates the rest of her life prosecuting them on the various crimes..
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:29 AM
Nov 2020

...that they've committed over the years.

Senior
Junior
Eric
Ivanka
Jared

JohnnyRingo

(18,627 posts)
27. The environment will thank you.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:35 AM
Nov 2020

Yes, his name should be held accountable for the atrocities against our nation and the world in general. I hope for the day the name Trump becomes notorious and fades into the history books, much like how no one is named Hitler anymore.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
31. I could not agree more.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:43 AM
Nov 2020

It is important that they all face the consequences of their actions. Without the rule of law, we will lose our Democracy. Investigations, indictments, prosecutions, fines and prison sentences are required to preserve whatever semblance of Democracy we still possess.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. Of course, but almost impossible. If it helps, if worst comes to worst
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:44 AM
Nov 2020

for them economically, just having a few tens of millions and being classed with the little people at that level will feel like ruin to these creeps.

Even reserved Bob Woodward agreed with a description of Trump as second generation of a four-generaton white collar crime family. And after all this exposure and the inevitable spotlight in the future, I'm guessing their favorite old ways of bringing in money are going to pretty much be closed to them.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
33. I'll be satisfied to see every last ounce of karma paid in full
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:45 AM
Nov 2020

Even that which we don’t know about, like some bad treatment of the servants or for every person they fired for no cause or for abusing factory workers who made their products. I’m sure the list is endless.

DeSmet

(257 posts)
34. Not President Biden's call
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:50 AM
Nov 2020

My suspicion though the FBI has a huge chip on their shoulder and want some justice for what the Trumps did to the FBI. Follow the money. Particularly the COVID relief package Jared has his hands on.

Lonestarblue

(9,977 posts)
35. I want Trump on tape calling his supporters stupid and saying he despises them.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:51 AM
Nov 2020

It probably exists already if some staff person used a voice memo. It needs to go public when Trump can no longer retaliate.

Peregrine Took

(7,413 posts)
41. That would put a huge dent in his cult following as in the movie "Face in the Crowd"
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:03 PM
Nov 2020

for them to actually hear and see him mock them.

DeanMH

(12 posts)
36. I disagree
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:51 AM
Nov 2020

President-elect Biden has called for reconciliation, re-uniting, and healing. It's wrong to consider continuing the vengeful cruelty of the past four years irregardless of whom it is. A leopard does not change it's spots. Their behavior will no doubt continue to be deplorable but for the time being we should offer the olive branch and ask for their acceptance and support.

...and then, allow the judicial department to investigate the family and the courts to decide their fates.

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
37. I want history to remember the name of MF45 as synomous with Benedict Arnold
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:52 AM
Nov 2020

When his misdeeds are discovered and facts back him up that he used our government as his personal piggy bank and slush fund. I want his cult members to be embarrassed and shamed they ever supported him.

It’s my sincere fantasy.

question everything

(47,470 posts)
38. Bill Maher yesterday listed all of them in his "Memorial" segment
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:52 AM
Nov 2020

Individuals that we will be glad to see gone. Yes, starting with Steve Miller and Barr.

Peregrine Took

(7,413 posts)
40. I fear his getting 70 million+ votes may intimidate the new administration
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:59 AM
Nov 2020

which seems inclined to seek healing.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
60. Yes, he got more votes than Barack Obama did believe it or not.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:44 PM
Nov 2020

The new administration may well decide it is too device to go after him. Of course state authorities in New York are independent of the feds and they might still go after him regardless.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
44. He and his whole family need to be extra careful. Putin may order a hit to prevent blabbermouth...
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:15 PM
Nov 2020

...from spilling the beans on their arrangement. Maybe the Saudis will repeat the Khashoggi (sp) episode, again to hide their involvement with Trump's evil empire. That or a disgruntled former support mad that he blew the election.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
46. I just want to see all of them get the same justice as the rest of us.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:19 PM
Nov 2020


If they committed fraud, charge them with that and let a jury decide.

If they cheated on taxes, let the trials begin.

If they defrauded anyone, anywhere, bring on the jury.

If they committed treason, time to pay the price.

Just let justice be done.

If they end up penniless, so be it.

1plus1equals1

(205 posts)
47. Trump living on Social Security would make a good reality show, but revenue from the show
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:21 PM
Nov 2020

would have to go to paying his back taxes and rehab for the rest of us.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
48. I genuinely believe Trump and his criminal children will flee the US and seek
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:31 PM
Nov 2020

asylum in someplace like Russia.

Because they are sure in for a slew of indictments, and they will be state level, not federal, so Trump can't even resign and have Pence pardon him.

He IS going golfing at this time. Might be easier to keep the Secret Service at a distance long enough to slip out and, say, catch a boat or a small airplane.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
55. But actually what will happen in my opinion is that he will pull a Grover Cleveland and
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:42 PM
Nov 2020

run again in 2024. I don't think we have seen the last of him.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
63. Don't count on it. According to actuarial tables he probably has at least another
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:49 PM
Nov 2020

ten years. And as far as prison goes, he has the resources and support to drag the legal process out indefinitely. And he knows that if he were elected again in 2024 that would make him immune to prosecution again.

diane in sf

(3,913 posts)
104. He has a galloping case of frontotemporal dementia. He has trouble talking, drinking, walking now.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:23 PM
Nov 2020

Notice how he never eats in public? And he’s already incontinent. In 4 years, he’ll probably be unable to speak and in a wheel chair. The people around him are spewing the 2024 stuff to calm him down.

Gore1FL

(21,128 posts)
62. I think by 2024 he'll be so declined that it won't be possible.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:46 PM
Nov 2020

He's a health wreck facing a lot of stressful music.

If Ivanka or Don Jr runs in 2024 I suspect they'll inherit at least part of cult following.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
66. He's already declined but he managed to serve out a four year term.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:50 PM
Nov 2020

I think he'll run even if they have to wheel him around on life support.

Gore1FL

(21,128 posts)
57. I cannot wait for the document dump.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:43 PM
Nov 2020

There are a lot of files the democrats wanted for years. In a few weeks, they'll have the keys to the cabinet.

Dan

(3,550 posts)
58. Personally, I think that Putin is going
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:44 PM
Nov 2020

To have someone stick a needle in Trump.

He has turned from being an asset to a real liability.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
64. I get that folks seek vengence against the Trumps
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:50 PM
Nov 2020

I actually don't hate them. I don't hate anyone, because anger and hatred are poison. What I want is justice, which is a virtue.

I guarantee you that there will be a presidential criminal investigation into their crimes. Some of which we don't even know about yet. And then the chips will fall as they must. Trump's evil degenerate karma is ripening even as I write this.

Karma is a law, as sure as gravity. And like gravity, it never stops working. If you don't keep your feet under you, you will fall. Trump is beginning his great fall now. I don't have to contaminate my honor and peace of mind with wishing him ill. I just have to be patient and let his evil karma bear the consequences of his anger, sadism, and corruption.

He probably will lose his property. I expect that he will be convicted on RICO charges of running a criminal enterprise for 30, 40 years. In which case, the gov would confiscate what's left of his property, because one is not allowed to profit from a criminal enterprise. What's left at that point will be whatever the banks and lenders have foreclosed for non-payment of his debts. So I don't have to wish his destruction. I just have to use reason and logic to see what awaits him as the consequences of all his evil deeds.

I look forward to the day, when I can see a picture of him after he gets his 1st 2-minute prison haircut with electric clippers.
Buzz buzz buzz. No more comb-over pompedour. Just his very bald pate for the whole world to see. Then he can go back to his gray solitary cell and stare at the walls for 23 hr a day. I would send him a book, but alas! I don't think he reads.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
94. If convicted of a federal crime, would he continue to receive his presidential pension, or not?
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:40 PM
Nov 2020

Plus his biggest asset has always been his name. He retains millions of followers and I think he would probably find ways to make money if necessary.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
67. Trump's financial house of cards...
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:52 PM
Nov 2020

We will see many Trump properties go under, or be sold off over the next few years. Their financial and legal issues going forward will be constant.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
81. I knew (or perhaps know is technically accurate) a person so much like Drumpf that it's frightening.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:18 PM
Nov 2020

Fancies himself a "businessman" when the closest he's ever come to an actual business was a thinly-veiled "biz-op" scam. It feel quite short of fraud, because there was an actual product, so all lawsuits were of a civil (not criminal, as opposed to polite) nature and even if he ever lost one (he was great at grinding people down until they lacked any wherewithal to continue the fight.

He was actually contemptuous of these people, because they clearly didn't have the drive and focus to make their "businesses" succeed. People, and often situations, were either The Best Thing Ever or the farthest thing from it. Rarely anything in between.

One differing aspect is that he found Christianity, but it is of the John Hagee - Creflo Dollar variety. Like most of these people, he cherry-picked Biblical passages that bolstered his perception. His overwhelming favourite was "The gold of the wicked is laid up for the righteous."

Now, here is the little anecdote that connected my mind from this thread to this miscreant. Oh, I should have mentioned that he is very smart, especially in technical ways and it's his Borderline Personality Disorder that's the big problem. He has a younger brother that is almost the exact opposite, except that he is brilliant. Quite literally the finest technical mind I've ever encountered. Taught himself UNIX system administration from a book in incredibly short time, for example.

He and I got along very well, and one of the best compliments I ever received was him saying that he wishes we could think of a business we could partner up in. One day, I told him that I thought it was entirely possible that no one that had ever had anything to do with his brother ever came out the better for having known him.

He thought for a moment and said "I think you're right."

It took me a long time to get there, but I trust you now see the connection. I find it to bee a very damning indictment of someone's life. Two lives, with one writ incredibly large.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
99. And ALL of their enablers around them.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:47 PM
Nov 2020

They all need to be persecuted into oblivion and under total agony and pain for their evil deeds.

BComplex

(8,042 posts)
100. I wish our country was more vindictive of those who have tried to destroy our country.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:47 PM
Nov 2020

By reputation, we're not. Except when it comes to Cuba, of course. Then I don't guess we'll ever get over it. Russia? Sure. Cuba? not so much.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
102. New York Is Itching To Get At Him
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:44 PM
Nov 2020

He has been a career fraudster and deadbeat and likely is beholden to the Soviets.

He is dirty up to his Ugly Mug.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
105. Scorch the earth, salt what's left, and banish it from memory
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:29 PM
Nov 2020

I want them all to be bankrupt, in prison, and international pariahs.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
107. Everything seized to pay off his ....
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:33 PM
Nov 2020

Golfing tab for one....

A portable dunking booth could pay off the national debt?





LucasD

(73 posts)
108. Absolutely.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 06:00 PM
Nov 2020

I fear that he has enough money tucked away to hire/keep the slimiest lawyers for his defense.
His entire existence has been possible because of those lawyers, they're well seasoned at protecting tRump.

There is a slim chance that he may find a certain gift from Russia in his coffee cup, or take a thirty story tumble out of a first floor window, unless he has stolen enough tax payer money to pay off the Putin's Russian mob.



intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
111. ...because if they aren't.... 2024
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 07:40 PM
Nov 2020

We must learn that when we let them off without consequences, they come back later. History has proven it.

OxQQme

(2,550 posts)
117. A reality show on Fox
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 09:30 PM
Nov 2020

The drumpfs and all their enablers on a deserted island.
For life.
No way off.
No phones.
An armada of Joe boats circling offshore, far enough to be seen.
A squadron of drone eyes 24/7. With bright lights. So they know they're being filmed.
Drop MRE's once a month.
A huge TV screen on the biggest boat showing happy dances streamed from around the world.

Upthevibe

(8,038 posts)
118. BlueStater....
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 09:52 PM
Nov 2020

The new Attorney General (as well as the Southern District of New York) needs to go through EVERYTHING these classless and sorry excuses for human beings have done. If it's determined that crimes were committed, they need to be prosecuted and, if found guilty, sent to prison.

summer_in_TX

(2,734 posts)
119. My wish is for the full unraveling
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:37 PM
Nov 2020

of their criminal enterprise, irrefutable proof of their crimes, and for convictions and prison time for every one who has committed crimes. Likewise, I hope for full proof of the obstruction of justice and the corrupt collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia as well as other authoritarian leaders in countries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the UAE, and China.

Truth and justice – but then depolarization between us on the left with many ordinary Americans who got caught up by Trump's charismatic demagoguery, some of whom are in our families perhaps. Even the obnoxious ones in my town who paraded up and down in their pickups with their flags and Trump signs.

And, dare I say it, for members of Congress on both sides of the aisle to slowly step away from hyper partisanship and figure out places where they have common ground.

Last but not least, for our various media to focus less on conflicts and more on solutions and areas of cooperation.

Oh, and peace on earth and goodwill to all mankind.

pecosbob

(7,537 posts)
120. I want to see him living penniless in a disused refrigerator box on a sidewalk in the Bronx
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:38 PM
Nov 2020

Throw a penny at him and he'll rant about crowd size and fake news...

dawn5651

(603 posts)
123. all they do is sell their last name...i don't believe that they are gonna make much money everyone
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:46 PM
Nov 2020

but i would love to see all of them including individual 1 charged for the things they have done.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
127. He should face any actual charges we can prove and go to prison.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:47 PM
Nov 2020

His family should pay for whatever part they did play and I am sure they had some culpability.

However, they actually had to live with him, so they have suffered much and maybe there is some way to reprogram them. IDK.

Maybe if Ivanka could get real English lessons she would realize what he ACTUALLY said and be appalled.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
131. I protested Nixon and saw him get away with it
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 12:20 AM
Nov 2020

I've never forgotten it.

If you do not want this kind of behavior in the highest offices in the land, you have to be willing to punish those who commit it - as a deterrent,

Trump would have locked Hillary up if he'd been able to. Ditto for Obama.
But he couldn't because they did not commit any crimes.

If Trump committed bank fraud, insurance fraud, tax evasion, etc, he should be help to account. He should not get a free pass after getting the Russian to help him steal the White House and obstructing Mueller so we couldn't find out.

Biden's answer to this is simple: "It is up to the Attorney General of the United States to uphold the laws of the land. Donald Trump has nothing to worry about if he's done nothing wrong."

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
132. I remember President elect Biden saying he would not "stand in the way"
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 12:56 AM
Nov 2020

Of his Attorney General, doing his job. In other words, the Atty. Gen. makes those decisions. The President should not interfere with law enforcement.

AdamGG

(1,288 posts)
133. Controlling the Senate would really help with the investigations
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 01:01 AM
Nov 2020

I'm very skeptical that Susan Collins actually won by 8 points. Hopefully, without the sociopath pied piper on the ballot, we can generate more turnout than the other side for the Georgia special elections.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
134. All in.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 01:04 AM
Nov 2020

Make such a horrible example of them, that no one would dare betray the United States as they did.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
135. Agreed
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 01:28 AM
Nov 2020

This is the first time he's ever truly lost. He's had deals go south; he's been bankrupt, etc. but he either got bailed out or just walked away whether it was ethical or legal, and as long as he didn't lose money or appear to, he counted it as a win. He'll always say that the only reason he didn't get a second term was because of voter fraud or whatever, but in his mind that will still be a loss. Cheating is part of his life and any endeavor he's part of. He may have been cheated in his mind, but also he wasn't smart enough to out-hustle the hustlers who hustled him, and that's a loss in his book.

TlalocW

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