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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:29 PM Jan 2012

CBS Poll: Romney Bests Obama, Paul Comes Close

CBS Poll: Romney Bests Obama, Paul Comes Close

A new national poll from CBS News shows President Obama down two points to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in a direct matchup, 47 – 45. Other Republican candidates compete against Obama as well with Rep. Ron Paul only down a single point at 46 – 45, and former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum with only a four point deficit at 47 – 43.

CBS analysis said it’s all about independent voters in the general election data, as no candidate (President Obama or any GOP one) seems to be able to attract a significant portion of the other sides' party faithful. From CBSnews.com:

If the general election were held today, it would break down along highly partisan lines no matter who gets the Republican nomination. A large percentage of Republicans rally be hind any of the Republican nominees, though Romney does the best among registered Republicans with 90% of their vote. About nine in 10 Democrats pick Barack Obama over any of the Republican candidates. Independents show a preference for both Mitt Romney and Ron Paul over Barack Obama, though independents choose the President over the rest of the field.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/3841


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CBS Poll: Romney Bests Obama, Paul Comes Close (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2012 OP
Yuck Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #1
That's alright...... FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #3
i don't believe it. barbtries Jan 2012 #2
YES jberryhill Jan 2012 #4
Yes. Yes it is. dawg Jan 2012 #6
If it is close, they can steal it, so it had better NOT be close. tblue37 Jan 2012 #17
Not can - will. They will steal it if it is anywhere near close. Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #28
Absolutely! nt tblue37 Jan 2012 #47
Yes it is stupid....thanx to Fundamentalist Conservatives accumulating power over the long term opihimoimoi Jan 2012 #8
i blame it on the media barbtries Jan 2012 #10
Yes, part of the blame is on factionalizing progressives. joshcryer Jan 2012 #13
Sadly, yes. n/t markpkessinger Jan 2012 #33
See BS. asjr Jan 2012 #5
Probably just a caucus/primaries bump. mvd Jan 2012 #7
Just think: ProSense Jan 2012 #14
Romney would put us back to the 19th century in ways, too mvd Jan 2012 #31
Except, of course, that he might not have actually technically won the caucuses Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #20
Yeah, but the media spin is about mvd Jan 2012 #30
Wait until he has to defend what he did to his fucking dog, for Dog's sake: coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #39
Time to stop the circular firing squad. DevonRex Jan 2012 #9
we got this same bullshit four years ago....don't buy it spanone Jan 2012 #11
Polls like this are meaningless right now. boxman15 Jan 2012 #12
It is also corporate CBS BULLSHIT and no, it means NOTHING now. RBInMaine Jan 2012 #18
Obama will be fine. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #15
From your mouth to God's ear!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #19
My ass Autumn Jan 2012 #16
Damn too early, call me two months before the General nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #21
+1 n/t markpkessinger Jan 2012 #35
Please 1stlady Jan 2012 #22
It's meaningless ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2012 #23
How many Republicans will stay home if Romney wins the nomination. sarcasmo Jan 2012 #24
And which one will mount a third-party campaign taking the right-wingers with them? Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #40
I agree the Paulbots won't vote for Romney. sarcasmo Jan 2012 #45
Very few. Their hatred of Obama will overrule their dislike of Romney. Angleae Jan 2012 #42
The only purpose of this poll is to get Repigs to line up behind Romney. MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #25
It's an early poll.....and most people aren't paying much attention, but..... marmar Jan 2012 #26
It is early and Mitt has been campaigning. I wouldn't Kdillard Jan 2012 #27
Don't panic! The GOP candidates are getting all the attention right now book_worm Jan 2012 #29
Wow, so the news is all Romney, all the time 24/7 and he only eeks out by 2pts? high density Jan 2012 #32
This is all before pacs for Obama show Romney saying he likes to fire people marlakay Jan 2012 #34
BS graywarrior Jan 2012 #36
If the media reported now how it will be in November sadbear Jan 2012 #37
Maybe the party needs to go further right. Karmadillo Jan 2012 #38
I'm sure these margins are going to fluctuate over the next months The Genealogist Jan 2012 #41
I have been saying this all along bowens43 Jan 2012 #43
The problem: Many Americans are convinced Obama has done something wrong, chrisa Jan 2012 #44
Oh, they have an idea, all right. HughBeaumont Jan 2012 #46

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,391 posts)
1. Yuck
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:35 PM
Jan 2012


What is it that people (i.e. Independents) like about Romney? Paul?

I wouldn't expect those results to stand for long.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
3. That's alright......
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:37 PM
Jan 2012

Because those folks will get theirs!
They will be served...although, unfortunatly,
so will we.

tblue37

(65,215 posts)
17. If it is close, they can steal it, so it had better NOT be close.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:20 PM
Jan 2012

I guarantee Obama had a much bigger mandate in 2008 that we were told, and we also probably won a lot more seats in both houses than we heard about!

opihimoimoi

(52,426 posts)
8. Yes it is stupid....thanx to Fundamentalist Conservatives accumulating power over the long term
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:47 PM
Jan 2012

as in stacking the SCOTUS as they did = W for 8 disaster years



The SHALLOWEST PRESIDENT in US HISTORY.....canardly make sense ..does he?

Thats what Conservatism gets when it goes for SHALLOW

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
13. Yes, part of the blame is on factionalizing progressives.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:08 PM
Jan 2012

We'd be much stronger if the Democratic Party wasn't itself really three parties (conservatives, moderates, leftists).

mvd

(65,156 posts)
7. Probably just a caucus/primaries bump.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:45 PM
Jan 2012

Wait until Romney has to defend his flip flops and Wall Street record in debates with President Obama.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
14. Just think:
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:15 PM
Jan 2012

the Republican primary looks like it's coming down to a contest between a candidate who wants to send Americans back to Iraq and one who wants to send Americans back to the 19th century.

mvd

(65,156 posts)
31. Romney would put us back to the 19th century in ways, too
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:57 PM
Jan 2012

He wants to end Medicare as we know it, is anti-union, wants lower taxes on the rich, is anti-choice.. he's very conservative in his latest positions, but best we don't tell Repukes that.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
39. Wait until he has to defend what he did to his fucking dog, for Dog's sake:
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 11:48 PM
Jan 2012
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1638065,00.html

Romney may have even run the car through the carwash while his dog was still in the carrier atop the roof:

https://www.facebook.com/DogsAgainstRomney

This message brought to you by the K-99%

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
12. Polls like this are meaningless right now.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:06 PM
Jan 2012

Wait till voters have a clear choice between Obama and Romney and any potential third partier. Then we can start to analyze these things.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
15. Obama will be fine.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:19 PM
Jan 2012

The folks who are paying attention right now are folks who actually care what the GOP has to say ... once the GOP picks some one, the game will be very different.

Obama should win in a landslide, equal to, or larger than the way he beat McCain.

Unless Democrats get stuck in a circle jerk.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
21. Damn too early, call me two months before the General
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:31 PM
Jan 2012

That is when polls start to matter, and anybody with half an inch of political sophistication knowns this. People, in general, do NOT plug into the election until six weeks prior to the election.

 

1stlady

(122 posts)
22. Please
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:49 PM
Jan 2012

They said the same thing in 08 with John McCain. There were all these polls saying McCain will win because he attracts more independants. I remember it as if it were yesterday, because they had me a little worried with those polls and I was thinking Obama was going to lose. And like others have mentioned, the only poll that matters is the one before election day. Obama's going to destroy Mittens in the debates anyway, so I'm not worried.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
23. It's meaningless
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:53 PM
Jan 2012

Besides, no one is over 50%......a lot of undecided people stick with the incumbant, as long as things are not imploding and are getting better. Remember '04.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
40. And which one will mount a third-party campaign taking the right-wingers with them?
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:19 AM
Jan 2012

I see Ron Paul taking his loons on a tilt at the windmills type of tour with him.

They despise Romney.

 

MjolnirTime

(1,800 posts)
25. The only purpose of this poll is to get Repigs to line up behind Romney.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:56 PM
Jan 2012

It has no bearing on reality.

marmar

(77,049 posts)
26. It's an early poll.....and most people aren't paying much attention, but.....
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:56 PM
Jan 2012

...... only a four-point deficit for SANTORUM?



Kdillard

(3,887 posts)
27. It is early and Mitt has been campaigning. I wouldn't
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:14 PM
Jan 2012

pay attention to the polls until after the nomination,and the debates between whomever wins it and Obama happens.

high density

(13,397 posts)
32. Wow, so the news is all Romney, all the time 24/7 and he only eeks out by 2pts?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:59 PM
Jan 2012

Doesn't look good for him.

marlakay

(11,424 posts)
34. This is all before pacs for Obama show Romney saying he likes to fire people
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 11:03 PM
Jan 2012

Just show that over and over throughout the country and Obama will win easy.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
37. If the media reported now how it will be in November
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 11:15 PM
Jan 2012

They'll have nothing to talk about for the next 10 months.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
41. I'm sure these margins are going to fluctuate over the next months
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:34 AM
Jan 2012

Of course people polled are more interested in Romney and Paul; the news does glowing stories on them, and spends a huge chunk of the news on them. After failing to properly report on the day's disgusting Repuke nonsense, they turn and crap all over President Obama, emphasizing how hard a battle it is going to be for him. But if those numbers are looking anything like that come September and October, and Romney or any of the other kkklown kkkar folk somehow gets elected, within 6 months people will be remembering the Obama presidency as a fantastic time for them. It is hard times right now, but with any one of these idiots in office, especially with the house and senate in Repuke hands, people are going to know a whole new level of suffering.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
43. I have been saying this all along
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 07:04 AM
Jan 2012

to the average american, Romney is a reasonable, likable alternative. Most Americans pay absolutely no attention to to politics. He looks and sounds presidential, that is all that's required.Although I think Obama will win,it won't be easy.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
44. The problem: Many Americans are convinced Obama has done something wrong,
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 09:44 AM
Jan 2012

but when you ask them what he did wrong, they have no idea.

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