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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGarbage In, Trash Out An embittered Trump can do a lot of damage before he's evicted for real.
Mother JonesWhos next? Likely contenders are FBI Director Christopher Wray, CIA Director Gina Haspell, even Attorney General Bill Barr (okay, Im fine with that). And which super stooges might Trump elevate? Maybe Hope Hicks becomes an acting Cabinet officialwhy not? Richard Grenell takes Haspells placenot impossible. But dont let your imagination stop there. He retains the full powers of the presidency until noon on January 20. Though he never paid any attention to his presidential daily briefings, whats to stop him from putting the nations most valuable national security secrets on a thumb drive and hold them hostage or put them on the open market? What if he orders federal troops into Portland or Philadelphia? Hes done it before. What if the next time he gets pissed at Iran or North Korea, he launches missiles?
We face a very dangerous next two months. Trumps closest advisors wont even tell him (or do not believe) that hes lost; theyre certainly not going to dissuade him from further vandalizing the country. The Republican establishment has prostrated itself to him in exchange for tax cuts and judges and to avoid being on the receiving end of mean tweets, but party leaders view him with contempt, and the feeling is mutual. No help there. His kids are complicit. Theres no indication he takes counsel from his wife, and less indication that any such counsel would be wise.
Even if Joe Biden were tempted to pull a Gerald Ford and pardon Trump in exchange for a normalish transition (which would guarantee a meltdown on the left), Trump faces criminal charges and civil lawsuits in state courts. Some kind of blanket multi-jurisdictional promise was made to Spiro Agnew to get him to go away, but heres the other thing: Trump does not want to go quietly. Its not just that he has no sense of patriotism or personal dignity; its that his brandhis psycheis built on bullying and bluster. Hes incapable of acting in the greater interest, and hes not even able to recognize that going through the motions of such sentiments are in his own interest. (See: his treatment of John McCain and Arizonas election results.)
bullimiami
(13,076 posts)This is on Trump if he is arrogant enough to try pardoning himself, or on Pence if Trump resigns to accommodate it.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,781 posts)..and yes, I think he will pardon himself. Part of me thought he'd say "f*** it!", turn over to Pence, and proceed to Mar A Lago. But honestly, I think he figures to fight kicking and screaming to the end.
procon
(15,805 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)The pardons, of course. I would expect that all his buddies will get pardons. He could do some executive orders but given the Biden will be sworn in in a little over two months, would those orders even have time to be implemented?
Anything else would require congressional approval.
He could declassify documents that could put undercover agents in jeopardy. Again, could such an order be slow-walked?
If he was smart, he would do nothing. I honestly don't care if he pardons his friends, as long as they are nonviolent.
If he wants to be able to point to something big post presidency, he should work with McConnell to push through a massive covid relief bill, so can sign it.