Forgive and Forget?

[angrychair]

I'm starting to become increasingly concerned that Biden and others are pushing us to forgive and forget what the Republicans have done the last 4 years.

With trump already asking for "concessions" we all know that means he is asking Biden to pardon him.

I worry this will end up like Bush and we all just be asked to pretend the last four years didn't happen and "move on".
Fuck that.

[fantase56]

1. No fuckin' way

[agingdem]

14. Yup!!

forgive racists and bigots?...never!..forgiving the odious trump cretins makes us look weak and it gives them carte blanche to spread their poison over and over again..if we fell for their phony mea culpas the first time why not forgive a second and third time?...absolving the trump-humpers for coming so close to destroying the very fabric of our country is akin to forgiving a quack doctor for amputating the wrong foot...he's learned his lesson and promises to not do it again...fuck them all!

[MLAA]

2. Somehow I don't think Leticia James will forget anything 🙂

[fierywoman]

10. And I (happily) keep seeing Veep Kamala looking straight into the camera and

saying: I know a predator when I see one.

[bottomofthehill]

3. Hate the sin, love the sinner

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Forgive ( sort of) and remember. That’s how you learn

[Girard442]

12. I might love a mad dog for what he once was.

Forgiving is pointless and forgetting is suicidal.

[MLAA]

20. Prosecute criminal behavior

and think about forgiveness after they’ve paid their debt to society. I think it will take a long time to pay off all impotus’ debts.

[bottomofthehill]

22. Forgive and remember comes with paying your debt to society.

Remembering is to make sure that the wrongs of the past don’t occur again.

[Frasier Balzov]

4. What would Lincoln do?

Or are you leaning Robespierre?

[angrychair]

8. don't care

Crimes were committed. Trump and his administration
committed crimes against humanity and should be held accountable. Anything less than full and complete accountability is unacceptable.

[fearnobush]

5. If they can govern like they campaign

Then this shouldn’t be an issue. Dems historically seek unification while fighting dirty behind the scenes. It’s one thing we’re actually good at fighting rethugs.

[Clearly fogged in]

6. If it was as easy as waiting for the gator to leave, fine.

But it's not. There are weasels, vipers, nests of bees, rats, and spiders. I could give a damn about the gator, exterminate this place.

[DanieRains]

7. Be Fair Only Prosecute Trump People Who Committed Crimes

Call it "Return to Justice".

[fierywoman]

9. I was a young adult after Watergate :NO -- it only encouraged Reagan. I was seriously into

middle age after the 2000 election furore: NO -- it came to encourage W and Cheney and finally It.



Ya basta.

[2naSalit]

11. NOT THIS TIME!

I'm not willing to do either because justice matters and we must prove that we mean it. We let Wcheney off the hook too and now look what happened. No fucking way do they not be held legally accountable.

You, we, I, no one should forgive multiple crimes against humanity.

[Blue Owl]

13. Anytime someone says it, just picture McConnell's evil, ugly grin

[liberaltrucker]

15. Nope

[Bayard]

23. Beat me to it!

[liberaltrucker]

28. ...

[Brother Mythos]

16. Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up! (Does that sound somewhat familiar?)

There's no way I'm ever going to forgive or forget how a vile person like Trump treats his opponents.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

17. No. If we just once again move on as if nothing that bad had occurred,

they will know they can get away with anything at all, and have no motivation to behave any differently in the future.

[LanternWaste]

18. I don't think Biden will issue any pardons.

I do think a handful of states will bring indictments. Beyond that though, there's just too many possibilities for me to even guess.

[angrychair]

21. I partly agree

I don't think Biden will actually give trump a pardon.

Unfortunately I do genuinely worry that we will be expected to "just move on" and that is what I cannot accept.

Its incredibly upsetting to be asked to ignore children being locked up like animals. That is just one of many things I cannot forgive or forget.

I also genuinely worry the harm this will do to the Democratic Party. The divisions this will foment is very real and significant.

[Deacon Blue]

19. No GOOJF Cards This Time

Oh yeah, they learn their lessons, as Sen. Collins reminded us. They learn they can get away with murder, like Nixon cozying up to Saigon, Reagan cozying up to the Mullahs, Bush the Lesser getting caught with his Lees around his ankles reading a comic book as 9/11 approached and drove us into Overreaction Overdrive, the Neocons sucking us deeper into the sandbox, you name it. The ONLY THING that motivates any of these Crooks, Liars and Thieves is CONSEQUENCES. How quick we are to cut them slack, how quickly the nation forgets one Long, National Nightmare after another. For God’s sake, make the pricks pay. Teddy Roosevelt said we don’t need to ask anyone to follow the law, and ignorance is no excuse (don’t think for a second that they are unaware of the criminality of their actions, look at the lengths they go to to hide evidence and throw sand in the umps’ faces) so let’s P R O S E C U T E!

Foreign policy blunders and political malpractice come
with the territory, but violations of federal and state law, and widespread violations of civil rights law are something else entirely. NO Democratic administration, whatever its foibles, has been anywhere near as RICO-able as these serial criminals and their co-conspirators. The evidence is there to be found and brought to a grand jury. Don’t be afraid of toothless threats of paybacks or fear of tit-for-tat, that’s just the ol’ False Equivalence by another name.

[SidDithers]

24. No...

Forgiveness without atonement is complicity.

Sid

[Crunchy Frog]

25. I need to try to get my family out of this country before the next fascist dictator comes along.

[Meowmee]

26. If true

It is a huge mistake... people need to go to jail, examples need to be made so fascism is stamped into the ground and so he is dead politically. Biden can’t pardon him from nys prosecution.

[smirkymonkey]

27. I'm with you.

No, no more playing nice with Republicans. They will only take the opportunity to screw us over again. We need to be ruthless with them this time and show them that we will not tolerate their corruption and dirty tricks.

[LizBeth]

29. I agree. After the speech, hearing the media, and getting to this point, don't tell me they are not

my enemy when they actively work at killing me, taking my ACAC, ignoring the pandemic, sending no help, taking away women and girls rights, allowing police immunity or whatever it is called and on it goes. If not my enemy then what?

Don't ask the American people to pretend we did not listen to 4 years of racist, misogynist, homophobic statements. If not my enemy, then what?

Four years of Trump stealing, breaking the law and giving my hard earn very few tax dollars to himself and his rich buddies taking food off my table, if not my enemy....

Pelosi gets it. Warren. Biden needs to understand.

[uponit7771]

30. We tried that twice already ... didn't work