Jamaal Bowman: Mainstream media should be having Black, Latinx, Muslim, Asian and progressive voices

[melman]

Link to tweet

[msongs]

1. LP spent millions to defeat trump. the money got them the attention nt

[Budi]

2. Haaaahaaaa.. Democratcs have been doing the work for years as well.

Don't forget the Party that has been doing the work long before 'progressives' appeared. 🙄

And wtf is the need to divide off the likes of TLP & Republicans Against Trump as well as a slew of other absolutely brilliant ad writers, who put it all on the line to help this country end the horror of Trump.

What exactly are they afraid of?
Guess its difficult to continue demonizing their 4 yr long campaign against every Dem leader, when the Moderate Center continues to grow larger, stronger & threatens the wishes of the My-way-or the-highway left.

Refusal to unify keeps us exactly where we are.

Thank You to TLP & Republicans Against Trump & all the other reasonable thinking folks who put their money & voice out there to save America from the fall into total authoritarian rule.

BRAVO...

Media has hosted the anti-Trump voices of Schmidt, Rick Wilson & we're seeing an increase in voices across the spectrum, more & more.

The media will be forced to give the public what we ask for, as soon as those wishing to divide stop their bs campaign to keep it that way.

Biden/Harris have made it clear what their admin & policies will reflect. And that is a nation of all voices & unity. Yes, UNITY.

[aidbo]

25. Rick Wilson and TLP are ghouls who have promoted..

..the fascist agenda of the Republican Party for decades.

He is a liar and a grifter. A grifter of such skill that when he found himself on the outs with the Trump administration he simply turned around and saw a whole new untapped market of #RESIST people who felt helpless to do anything about Trump. So he conned them into giving TLP millions to produce ads that really ‘stuck it’ to Trump and made them feel better about their helplessness. LP’s ads were much more effective at making liberals feel good than at swaying any Republican votes for Joe Biden.

[Budi]

26. Pretty much how I look at those who aligned with guy who ..

Years ago, age 30, authored a dehumanizing vile essay on "Rape Fantasies", a guy who sought out the poorest Latino area of S Texas to dump his State's toxic Nuke sludge.
And a guy who so admired the dictator Fidel Castro.

You see, I too am so repulsed by the past alliances & hypocrisies of those who today are held in celebrity status for some unbelievable reason.

[George II]

28. Brava!!

[aidbo]

35. Lol, your talking points are off topic and stale.

But I guess you’re saying you’d rather align with right wingers than left wingers?

Are you sure you’re on the right website?

[LanternWaste]

42. More or less off topic and stale than posting "Trump will run rings around Biden"?

I do enjoy watching the inhabitants of glass houses throwing stones.

[aidbo]

61. Who posted that?

[NurseJackie]

63. LOL!

[Budi]

45. So Rape Fantasies, Toxic Nuke dumping & admiration of Comunist Dictators is Ok now?

But dredging up past Republican loyalties are not?
Suuuure. 🙄
(Its called hypocrisy btw)

See ya in the Ignore file!!

[George II]

46. Facts aren't "talking points".

[Budi]

49. K & R a million

Thank you.

I welcome the professionalism & voices of those who take on Trump's authoritarian bs at this point in time.

I don't hear them ranting on in a rentless drone targeting any of our best Democratic leaders, btw.

So there's that , as well.

Thanks George. Facts are facts...no matter how old & repulsive they are.

[melman]

27. +1

[BainsBane]

59. Let's make sure they drop their advertising campaign in GA

We wouldn't actually want to win control of the Senate when grinding an axe is so much more important.

You don't know what effect the ads had. Independents broke for Biden. That may well have been influenced by the Lincoln Project.

That said, I agree with having more diverse voices in the media. We can start by clearing out some of the self-entitled white men.

[aidbo]

62. They didn't move a single vote in Georgia. You can thank Stacy Abrams..

..and a bunch of other on-the-ground mostly black, mostly what you would call far-left organizers for Biden’s win in Georgia.

[BainsBane]

64. No, I would call them African Americans

some of whom might identify as moderates and others as progressives. And this party is theirs more than anyone else's because they bring about electoral victories.

You do not know that the LP didn't move any votes. That is what you want to believe, without absolutely any evidence.

There is no left let alone a far left in the US anymore, and there hasn't been since the deliberate destruction of the Communist party. The people who claim the mantle socialist bear nothing in common with socialism. Some claim socialism is public highways. There is no intetion for the people to gain control of the means of production. Instead, there are college kids who want free tuition and legal pot. It's as bourgeois as you can get. They talk about going back to the New Deal era. With the exception of people of color, the movement is restorationist, which is precisely why it hasn't appealed to as many people of color as "progressives" might like. The mythical past that white middle class "progressives" harken back to was a time of segregation, voter disenfranchisement, and lynching. The historical illiteracy of the whole thing is stupefying.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

3. My guess is this will begin to change once Joe's got his cabinet of

diverse and expert public servants in place. It's going to take MSM some time to catch up and get themselves into the current era but they should hurry or they'll be left behind.

I am so ready for a President who wants everyone to have a seat at the table.

[George II]

4. Mr. Bowman should watch more of the "mainstream media". Just this morning on CNN and MSNBC...

...I saw both Omar and A0C on both CNN and MSNBC.

Plus Joy Reid has people who I presume he's referring to as "progressive voices" on her show every Saturday and Sunday morning, Tiffany Cross has been rotating as host of the show (along with Jonathan Capehart, who also writes for "mainstream media" Washington Post) since Reid got the weekday slot, Zerlina Maxwell has been on both CNN and MSNBC frequently, etc. etc. etc.

As far as The Lincoln Project being "grifters", they're not in it for monetary gain, they're in it to help preserve American democracy, be it on the right or the left, or both. A grifter is "a person who engages in petty or small-scale swindling"*. They're not swindling anyone out of anything, and inasmuch as they've spent million of dollars in ads against trump and republican Senators and for Biden and Democratic Senators, they're hardly "small-scale".

*https://www.google.com/search?q=grifter&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS725US725&oq=grifter&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i61l2j69i60.1366j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[Budi]

5. Thank you. I'm seeing a more diverse media emerging.

Actually Media needs to retire RW divisionists like Chuck Todd & Greenspan.
That would help a lot.

[George II]

7. A closer look at MSNBC, the dreaded "mainstream media" outlet

Ali Velshi - regular shows sometimes seven days a week - Muslim of Indian descent
Joy Reid - daughter of immigrants from the Republic of Congo and Guyana
Ari Melber - son of an Israeli immigrant and grandparents Holocaust survivors
Aymen Mohyeldin - Egyptian immigrant
Yasmin Vossoughian - daughter of Iranian immigrants

CNN's personalities are equally divers. So what was that about Black, Latinx, Muslim, and Asian voices?

[Dem2]

11. Yep, and their guests are equally diverse

[melman]

8. Rick Wilson is a racist

He shouldn't be given a platform on cable TV or anywhere else. He should be shunned.

[George II]

9. Was that the topic of your OP?

[melman]

10. Yes

Did you not see the linked tweet Rep. Bowman rightly calls incredibly sickening?

[George II]

12. I addressed that in post #4.

[melman]

15. You did not

You did not address Rick Wilson's disgusting tweet about shooting Muslims


This one here.

Link to tweet

[George II]

16. I addressed what Bowman said, which was the topic of the OP.

[melman]

17. What do you think of Rick Wilson's Islamophobic tweet?

Which Bowman directly addresses in his own tweet.

[melman]

20. No answer

So shocked.

[OnDoutside]

22. Wilson addressed it, or did you skip that deliberately ?

Link to tweet

[melman]

23. Here's the problem with that explanation

The 2014 Peshawar school massacre happened two days after his tweet.


He's lying.

[OnDoutside]

24. OMG, are you saying he knew in advance and covered it up ???

[melman]

30. Of course not

I'm saying his excuse is clearly a lie because the dates do not match.

[OnDoutside]

48. Actually aside from anything else, I think Wilson may be mistaken which Islamic attack it was.

Link to tweet

The Date Stamp on this is 15 December 2014 3.39am

Yet another "damning" snip of the tweet has this Date Stamp 15 December 2014 7.39pm

:small

There's clear rat fucking going on here by someone

Want to know the really funny bit ? When I googled that, it brought me to the twitter page of Mike Cernovich !!!

That's who is standing shoulder to shoulder with you in this crusade Funny, eh ?

BTW, did you know there was another Islamic attack the day before the Peshawar massacre, on the Monday Dec 14, 2014 ? And I think that was the one Rick was referring to in that tweet from 2014, and bear in mind, this attack started on the Monday morning at 10am in Sydney, Australia, 16 hours ahead of Florida, so it was only Sunday the 14th in Florida.

Here are the details

Sydney siege: Two hostages and gunman dead after heavily armed police storm Lindt cafe in Martin Place

Police stormed the building after explosions and yelling were heard about 2:10am (AEDT).

Tributes flow for slain hostages

Lindt cafe manager Tori Johnson and barrister Katrina Dawson were killed in the 16-hour Sydney siege.

Multiple sources have told the ABC that Mr Johnson tried to grab the gunman's weapon when he appeared to be falling asleep.

Authorities would not confirm whether he and Ms Dawson were shot by the gunman or killed in crossfire.

Seventeen people were taken hostage by self-styled Iranian cleric Man Haron Monis shortly before 10:00am on Monday morning, but five ran free later that afternoon.

Police said three female hostages, aged 75, 52 and 43, sustained gunshot wounds and all were in a stable condition on Tuesday.

A police officer, 39, was treated for a minor gunshot wound to his face and discharged from hospital.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-16/sydney-siege-gunman-two-hostages-dead/5969162

[George II]

51. Good research. Good job! That International Dateline can sure be tricky sometimes, eh?

[OnDoutside]

53. Thanks, and yes it can be tricky.

[LanternWaste]

44. I dig how consistently you keep moving your own goalposts on this one.

I s'pose this is a taste of 2021.

No worries... Biden's President, Harris is Vice President and despite and handful of downers, we're all pretty happy about it.

[melman]

47. I haven't moved anything

and I hereby challenge you to demonstrate otherwise.

[George II]

29. My guess is yes. But an answer on Wilson's "racism" is being demanded.

[OnDoutside]

31. Indeed.

This has been used it as a tactic that can be weaponized. We need only see what happened in early March with the same sort of coordinated swarming. There is a changed landscape out there, and the Democratic Party needs all the help it can get in the fight against a fascist GOP..

[melman]

32. Why do you put racism in quotes?

Surely you know there is a mountain of evidence that proves he is a racist.

[Silent3]

34. One good reason for quotes around "racism" here is that Islam is not a race

If Rick Wilson were, as you claim, exhibiting anti-Islam bias, the correct term would be "bigotry".

[George II]

56. Just quoting you.

[George II]

50. Precisely.

[aidbo]

33. Lol! Fir not being in it for the money they sure are making a ton of it..

..and spreading it around to all their own businesses.

[George II]

38. They're not "making a ton" of money, they're getting lots of contributions. Almost all of it....

...has been spent on producing and distributing their ads.

Since their inception (NOT just this year as a famous Congresswoman claims) they've received $67 million, and have spent $60 million of it on producing and distributing their ads.

Not many major politicians can claim such a ratio of receipts to disbursements.

[melman]

39. Let's see some proof on that.

[George II]

40. Easily available on FEC.gov

[melman]

41. Oh I've seen what's on FEC

What it actually shows is quite different than your claim.

[George II]

43. ....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14517812

"Let's see some proof on that."

[Cha]

36. Yeah, Bowman should READ Your POST, Too.

Learn!

[Klaralven]

6. Mainstream media wants to keep an audience.

[JI7]

13. lol

[JI7]

14. How about jews buddhists Hindus taos and atheists ? And there is no Latinx

[JI7]

18. Some people jealous of the Lincoln Project

[Cha]

37. Seems very much SO.

[JonLP24]

19. That is the problem

They like the Lincoln Project but hate progressives. Even Republicans don't like The Lincoln Project so we are not winning them over.

[OnDoutside]

21. I watch a lot of MSNBC and I see lots of diverse contributors, even Joy has finally got her own

primetime show (overdue).

Since this LP hate is coming from the far left twittersphere, it's informative to know where Jamaal's influences are based. He struck a different tone before the election, whenever I heard him.

[treestar]

52. Mainstream media

will never do that. $$$$$$.

[demmiblue]

54. Just gonna put this here:

[melman]

55. Yes, on top of everything else Rick Wilson is a Sandy Hook truther

Quite a guy!

[George II]

57. ..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14517812

"Let's see some proof on that."

[melman]

58. see post #54

[George II]

60. That's far from "proving" that he's a Sandy Hook truther, whatever that is.