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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAZ Update - lead down to 16,985. But trump needs 60% of remaining 81k ballots
This is my first update of AZ's numbers today so this is a summary of all counts added by AZ today:
AZ
Biden: 1,643,664
trump: 1,626,679
Other: 52192
New Biden: 12,469
New trump: 14,094
New Other: 647
% New Biden: 45.83%
% New trump: 51.80%
% New Other: 2.38%
Diff: 16,985
Remaining (Est.): 81,209
Trump is averaging 53.6%. Well below where he would need to be. This is gonna end up close though
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)This morning Biden/Harris was up at least 20,000 and that remaining ballots were in favor of them. Oh well, they are still ahead.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Amishman
(5,555 posts)And while it by itself was over 60%, not by nearly enough to offset the other counties where he is coming up short
StarryNite
(9,442 posts)I'm feeling more confident that we will be a blue state for Biden!
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Most of Trump's gain was from there.
Pima County (strongly favoring Biden) is still at 95%.
The other counties might move a few hundred votes of the margin, but it's really a question of what's left in Pinal, Pima, and Maricopa. I'd bet it's about what we're seeing now in aggregate: Trump at 52 or 53. It probably won't be enough.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The biggest had 15,000, the other had 4,500 as of earlier today. My guess is one or both reported. As of earlier today, Biden had two very blue counties (+20% or more) left, they had 20,000 votes to count. Maricopa (Biden +2%) had 32,000 to count. Joe had a 20,000 vote lead at that time. Dont worry, Joe has Arizona, just a matter of time until it is official.
blitzen
(4,572 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)blitzen
(4,572 posts)But maybe there are some not listed as "cast" yet?
Deuce
(959 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)The list below shows answers to common questions regarding recounts in Arizona.[1]
Does state law require automatic recounts?
Yes. Margins requiring an automatic recount vary based on the type of election and total turnout. These can be found below.
When must an automatic recount be completed?
No set deadline.
Can a recount be requested?
Recounts may not be requested in this state.
Who pays for a requested recount?
Recounts may not be requested in this state.
Is a refund available for requested recount costs?
Not applicable. State law does not allow requested recounts.
Can a partial recount be requested?
No.
Automatic recount procedures
A. A recount of the vote is required when the canvass of returns in a primary or general election shows that the margin between the two candidates receiving the greatest number of votes for a particular office, or between the number of votes cast for and against initiated or referred measures or proposals to amend the Constitution of Arizona, is less than or equal to the lesser of the following:
1. One-tenth of one per cent of the number of votes cast for both such candidates or upon such measures or proposals.
2. Two hundred votes in the case of an office to be filled by state electors and for which the total number of votes cast is more than twenty-five thousand.
3. Fifty votes in the case of an office to be filled by state electors and for which the total number of votes cast is twenty-five thousand or less.
4. Two hundred votes in the case of an initiated or referred measure or proposal to amend the constitution.
5. Fifty votes in the case of a member of the legislature.
6. Ten votes in the case of an office to be filled by the electors of a city or town or a county or subdivision of a city, town or county.
B. Subsection A does not apply to elections for precinct committeemen, school district governing boards, community college district governing boards, fire district boards or fire district chiefs or secretary-treasurers or boards of other special districts. [2]
Arizona Revised Statutes
Automatic recounts are paid for by the county or town, depending on the race.[3] There is no set a deadline for the completion of an automatic recount.
Current difference is 0.51
My estimated final difference is 0.26
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)be in effect. There is going to be around 3,350,400 votes cast. One tenth of 1% would be 3350 votes, looks like Joe will stay way above that based upon where the outstanding votes are. So, no recount is likely to happen.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,841 posts)LeftInTX
(25,243 posts)Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)going to be some other mystery group of uncounted ballots? This is exhausting
ETA: per the math from the SOS, theres only 34,245 ballots left to count. Where did you get 81,000 from?
Roland99
(53,342 posts)I've never seen stats on remaining on their election results page
The estimate I use comes from:
https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html
And that would include a bump up of 46k that was added yesterday (which I presume to be provisionals?)
EDIT: Ah, I see how the 34k is calculated
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)It states that 3,354,572 votes were cast.
So far the count includes 3,320,327 (B 1,642,664; T 1,626,678; Jorgensen 49,984)
Roland99
(53,342 posts)guess we'll find out soon
LisaL
(44,973 posts)It could just mean in 34,000 ballots presidential race was left blank.
Tribetime
(4,684 posts)Are called for Joe..even though there may be recounts
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)There shouldnt be one in Georgia, but the SOS is a Republican who has stated one will be done. The Arizona SOS is a Democrat.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The dump maybe was mostly very red Pina County (Trump +16%). Pina County had 15,000 uncounted votes last I looked at a DU post, but very blue Pima County (Biden +20%) had 18,000 left to count.
Dont worry, Trump is done unless the 32,000 remaining votes in Maricopa County really go against Joe.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)triron
(21,995 posts)That could be good news for Biden.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)but needs 60.3%. It changes slightly with each update.
https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html
It's very close.
marmar
(77,072 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)This is the time consuming portion of an election that we usually dont pay attention to because its usually been decided before this
edhopper
(33,567 posts)and it's still this close.
Fuck Repuke voters.