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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:16 PM Jan 2012

Five years ago today Apple changed the world of smartphones and mobile computing forever.

Steve at his best. Watch this and witness how completely amazed the crowd was.

#!

A smartphone retrospective

This is what high-end smartphones looked like in 2007:



Smartphones were an established consumer-electronics market with devices that people thought were pretty cool, but often frustrating and with serious shortcomings and design flaws.

Then this happened:



http://www.marco.org/2010/08/19/a-smartphone-retrospective

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Five years ago today Apple changed the world of smartphones and mobile computing forever. (Original Post) onehandle Jan 2012 OP
Actually... tledford Jan 2012 #1
LOL! Windows Mobile 6! Yeah, that's the same. onehandle Jan 2012 #2
Facts are SO annoying and get SO much in the way ... tledford Jan 2012 #8
Interpretation of the facts is subjective. LanternWaste Jan 2012 #43
Really, and Apple didn't steal the concept of the MAC interface from Xerox, huh? How about the Treo still_one Jan 2012 #12
BZZZT. Wrong answer!! Gates had NOTHING to do with making PC's affordable for the masses. cliffordu Jan 2012 #15
Technically you are correct about the hardware, but it was the software and development environment still_one Jan 2012 #26
It was Steve Ciarcia, he wrote articles explaining how to build a PC clone bananas Jan 2012 #49
There you go! cliffordu Jan 2012 #88
You know I cannot buy a windows branded computer even today nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #22
Yes I did know that, but it was usable software that made it viable /nt still_one Jan 2012 #27
And windows, by your argument, came from IBM nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #28
Actually it was Kendel with CP/M where IBM and MSFT evolved on the PCs. The transformation occurred still_one Jan 2012 #89
PCs for the masses were because of Phoenix Technologies jmowreader Jan 2012 #31
I do remember the Phoenix BIOS in my sister's AT, 286 nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #32
LOL! iOS is rip-off of PalmOS. jayfish Jan 2012 #45
If that was true, then Palm should have sued Apple... onehandle Jan 2012 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #50
What are you talking about? MattBaggins Jan 2012 #52
I remember that phone! REP Jan 2012 #3
While I was a fan of Windows mobile, all the way to Windows CE nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #11
There is also an Android phone which is NOT a windows device, and a viable alternative /nt still_one Jan 2012 #14
Yeah but I know enough apps that run on apple nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #18
understood /nt still_one Jan 2012 #24
They may be more perception than reality MattBaggins Jan 2012 #54
No, there are no creative writing apps on the android nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #93
Ah yes, Windows CE Canuckistanian Jan 2012 #84
Can you get me one of those? cliffordu Jan 2012 #13
If I told you the guy who invented the refrigerator died, how would you react? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #4
"He's on ice now" REP Jan 2012 #5
BWAHAHA! +1 n/t LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #21
LOL bigwillq Jan 2012 #57
Very Nice we can do it Jan 2012 #6
Apple thanks you for the free ad time. marmar Jan 2012 #7
YES. Because after reading this post I am going to buy an iPhone. Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #9
Five years ago? Is that when Apple banned the first app they didn't approve of? Heywood J Jan 2012 #10
self delete cliffordu Jan 2012 #16
Flash? Five years ago, Steve Jobs that Flash was a 'bag of hurt' for mobile. onehandle Jan 2012 #17
You mean the one whose parts I picked because they were made outside the PRC? Heywood J Jan 2012 #19
All phones and computers are made by slave labor in China. MattBaggins Jan 2012 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #70
So you agree that they are not all made in China MattBaggins Jan 2012 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #79
More than aware MattBaggins Jan 2012 #81
two points nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #20
FYI: the plural of "virus" is "viruses" ... Puzzler Jan 2012 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #51
It is not virii MattBaggins Jan 2012 #69
K&R... SidDithers Jan 2012 #23
Good thread. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #25
All hail the Great and Powerful Jobs! downwardly_mobile Jan 2012 #29
Actually, I drive a Nissan 350Z and I don't have kids REP Jan 2012 #34
So you have a Blackberry, huh? Joe the Revelator Jan 2012 #36
+1000. closeupready Jan 2012 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #53
I bought arugula at Wal-Mart earlier this evening...just saying. bullwinkle428 Jan 2012 #91
See, that's the problem right there -- arugula used to be a good upper-middle-class marker -- downwardly_mobile Jan 2012 #92
I think the Treo was the big leap, 5 years before the iPhone stevenleser Jan 2012 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #56
Yup. REP Jan 2012 #62
You cant point to failed products as great leaps forward stevenleser Jan 2012 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #86
No, I never asserted that. I said that the great leap forward was the Treo nt stevenleser Jan 2012 #87
great marketing eShirl Jan 2012 #35
with aid of Chinese child labor..... bowens43 Jan 2012 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #58
My Samsung Blackjack was working just fine at that time... JCMach1 Jan 2012 #38
iPhone satisfaction at 75%; closest competitor (Samsung) at 47% onehandle Jan 2012 #39
Samsung can take care of itself JCMach1 Jan 2012 #40
Apple's business plan is not market share, but profit share. onehandle Jan 2012 #41
Share price... I know which one I would buy! JCMach1 Jan 2012 #44
Whoops. NPD: iPhone surged, Android slipped in Oct. and Nov. onehandle Jan 2012 #48
How about worlwide sales MattBaggins Jan 2012 #68
Just wait for Samsung to tell Apple to piss off MattBaggins Jan 2012 #67
Apple is a major client, so unlikely. nt onehandle Jan 2012 #90
Oh brother Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #47
Traded my iPhone for a Motorola Atrix (Android) and never looked back. tledford Jan 2012 #61
Yawn... give me back a phone that actually works as a PHONE Steve... ddeclue Jan 2012 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #60
you mean the iPhones where if I hold them funny they lose the signal? ddeclue Jan 2012 #63
When someone ran a red light into my car, I was able to call 911 on my iPhone REP Jan 2012 #64
you are lucky.. ddeclue Jan 2012 #65
Yes. I came close to being killed by an idiot who can't see red (lights or my car) REP Jan 2012 #75
that's the definition of lucky having a working iPhone.. ddeclue Jan 2012 #80
No - walking away from Buick Lucerne vs Nissan 350Z is! REP Jan 2012 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #73
I have close friends who unfortunately do... ddeclue Jan 2012 #74
I have a close friend who was molested by her Blackberry. REP Jan 2012 #76
don't particularly like them either. I've had a Storm I and a Storm II. ddeclue Jan 2012 #78
I'm just teasing you. I am glad you have something you like (for real) REP Jan 2012 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Jan 2012 #77
Oh, yeah?! Norrin Radd Jan 2012 #66
Can you play angry brids on that? MattBaggins Jan 2012 #72

tledford

(917 posts)
1. Actually...
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:27 PM
Jan 2012

HTC released the Touch with Windows Mobile 6 on June 5, 2007, over three weeks before the first iPhone was released (June 29).

Beware the Apple kool-aid.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. LOL! Windows Mobile 6! Yeah, that's the same.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:35 PM
Jan 2012

So funny.

The smart thing that Windows did was dump everything they did then and took their time to weakly catch up, sorta. HTC, Samsung, Google and others are about to pay Apple A LOT of money for simply stealing from Apple to get to market.


tledford

(917 posts)
8. Facts are SO annoying and get SO much in the way ...
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:51 PM
Jan 2012

... of what we want reality to be. Just ask the average Fox News viewer.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
43. Interpretation of the facts is subjective.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jan 2012

Interpretation of the facts is rather subjective, and may also interfere with our perceptions of reality.

(six of one and half a dozen of the other, you see...)

still_one

(92,116 posts)
12. Really, and Apple didn't steal the concept of the MAC interface from Xerox, huh? How about the Treo
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:06 PM
Jan 2012

that was the first real smart phone. PCs for the masses were because of Bill Gates, who made it affordable for the personal user.

No question that Apple took existing ideas, inovated them, and turned them into more usable interfaces for the masses

However, as far as the development environment goes, at least currently, Microsoft is light years ahead of everyone else with the Visual Studio, their .net languages such as C# and respective tools associated with the development environment, Apple doesn't even come close.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
15. BZZZT. Wrong answer!! Gates had NOTHING to do with making PC's affordable for the masses.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:10 PM
Jan 2012

That would have been the folks manufacturing IBM clones.

Bill just got a little vigorish every time DOS got loaded on one of those machines. Which for years was EVERY time.

still_one

(92,116 posts)
26. Technically you are correct about the hardware, but it was the software and development environment
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:44 PM
Jan 2012

which made it accessable and usable.

Ask any developer today which IDE is better?

bananas

(27,509 posts)
49. It was Steve Ciarcia, he wrote articles explaining how to build a PC clone
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:36 PM
Jan 2012

"Ciarcoa's Circuit Cellar" was a well-known monthly column for electronics hobbyists,
shortly after the IBM PC came out,
he gave detailed instructions on how build a PC clone,
including the BIOS.

When anyone could build it at home, manufacturers had to sell it cheap.

Wozniak sold the Apple I as a DIY kit for hobbyists.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
22. You know I cannot buy a windows branded computer even today
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:28 PM
Jan 2012

at the Windows store (which is a bad copy of a mac one... yup, same mall, five store fronts from each other, funny stuff).

So the people who made those boxes affordable were the MANUFACTURERS who loaded windows on them... and the cost of the OEM licence was the same regardless of who it was.

But you knew this.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
28. And windows, by your argument, came from IBM
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jan 2012

Gates borrowed it.

(In reality Gates borrowed this from IBM, while his counterparts at Apple borrowed the Mouse, this is for completeness sake)

In reality both companies did yeoman's work to get the technology into the hands of people, and future historians of Technology will recognize BOTH equally.

Call it a sneaky, but I also doubt those historians will be working on either Mac or Win machine.

still_one

(92,116 posts)
89. Actually it was Kendel with CP/M where IBM and MSFT evolved on the PCs. The transformation occurred
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:08 PM
Jan 2012

when MSFT split from IBM's OS2 and went NT.

I do agree with your assessment completely though


jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
31. PCs for the masses were because of Phoenix Technologies
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 11:04 PM
Jan 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Technologies

In your computer is a program called the Basic Input/Output System, or BIOS. It is the program that tells your computer's microprocessor it's in a computer rather than a traffic light, a dishwasher or a brake system. And for the first few years of the PC's existence, the only 100-percent IBM-compatible BIOS available was made by IBM. There were a couple of problems with this, one being that real IBM PCs were expensive, the other that real IBM PCs were only available from stores IBM thought good enough to sell their products. You couldn't walk into Kmart or an appliance store and buy an IBM PC. (The flipside is, the stores IBM thought good enough could actually fix the damn thing if something went wrong...not that much COULD have, since a Genuine IBM PC was built like an anvil.)

There were other computers that ran MS-DOS, but those "compatibles" ran only software that was coded very strictly for MS-DOS (which meant it couldn't directly call the hardware, and all the good DOS software does that) or software that was made specifically for your model of computer.

Phoenix Technologies decided to make a version of the BIOS that wouldn't infringe on IBM's copyright. They formed two teams of engineers: one had access to the IBM programming manuals for the PC, and they wrote specifications for each thing the BIOS does. They handed these specifications to the other team, who were chosen because they'd never read the IBM documentation. The second team wrote the BIOS.

Without this software, no PC clones could have been made and without it Windows wouldn't have been successful--anyone who could afford a $5000 piece of equipment could also run it from the command line.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
32. I do remember the Phoenix BIOS in my sister's AT, 286
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 11:47 PM
Jan 2012

that thing was still close to 3K... and stats wise, anybody wants to laugh?

It even ran a Word Processor (from the floppy, kids should go ask what those were), that no longer exist.

Irony moment, I was so afraid of breaking it. These days I am the tech, and she is afraid of breaking them.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
46. If that was true, then Palm should have sued Apple...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:55 AM
Jan 2012

...instead of circling the drain.

And btw, I loved Palm. There are still aspects of the system I remember with fondness.

My Handspring Visor Edge sits on a shelf in my office in a place of high respect. I can still feel the metal beauty in my hand.



Response to jayfish (Reply #45)

MattBaggins

(7,901 posts)
52. What are you talking about?
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 07:30 PM
Jan 2012

Apples frivolous lawsuits instead of competing?

Which dumbass claim are we talking about?
That Samsung should have made it's phones triangles since apple invented the rectangle?

Rounded and beveled corners that are well known engineering structural design?

Making the area surrounding screens black so as not to distract from the screen? A concept predating anything Apple thought up?

Apple's lawsuits are a petty childish ploy.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. While I was a fan of Windows mobile, all the way to Windows CE
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:05 PM
Jan 2012

(For the record that little HP device WORKED very well, would not mind... oh never mind, the IPAD does the same better), most people did not flock to Win 6.0 or later devices.

There were two points they COULD HAVE done that. For example when they released devices about the size of a small netbook running WIN 4.0 I think, but the marketing was never there, and yes I WANTED ONE, just could not find it. Which was the other problem, distribution.

If I had to buy a smart phone right now... I'd get an Iphone, not a windows device. No, not hype, My IPOD, not a phone, still works.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
18. Yeah but I know enough apps that run on apple
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:18 PM
Jan 2012

that just work for my needs, including fiction writing apps, one of which is pretty sophisticated.

I don't feel like chasing for apps.

MattBaggins

(7,901 posts)
54. They may be more perception than reality
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 07:33 PM
Jan 2012

Apple has more android apps because they have 20 tic tac toe apps as opposed to Androids 5.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
93. No, there are no creative writing apps on the android
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 02:21 AM
Jan 2012

and nothing like the one I use...

They are that specialized.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
4. If I told you the guy who invented the refrigerator died, how would you react?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:39 PM
Jan 2012

A salient Twitter post I saw.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
9. YES. Because after reading this post I am going to buy an iPhone.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:59 PM
Jan 2012

And I never would have thought to buy one otherwise.

Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
10. Five years ago? Is that when Apple banned the first app they didn't approve of?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:04 PM
Jan 2012

Was that when they decided you shouldn't have the choice to use Flash? Or was that when the phone stopped working when you held it in your hand? Or is that when the first Chinese worker committed suicide rather than make them under slave-labor conditions?

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
17. Flash? Five years ago, Steve Jobs that Flash was a 'bag of hurt' for mobile.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:17 PM
Jan 2012

It took Adobe that long to conclude that their ancient technology was indeed, bad for mobile and ended its development.

LOL!

Oh and Foxconn makes tech for everybody. All phones and computers are made by slave labor in China.

Feel free to abandon whatever box you are on.

Lastly, Android and Microsoft are banning apps and developers.

Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
19. You mean the one whose parts I picked because they were made outside the PRC?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:20 PM
Jan 2012

And how you didn't address the rest of the points, such as the censorship? Although, I guess with such a witty repartee as "Flash is ancient", I shouldn't be surprised.

Response to MattBaggins (Reply #59)

Response to MattBaggins (Reply #71)

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. two points
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:21 PM
Jan 2012

1.- Is flash under active development any longer?

2.- Feel free to stop using your box right now, whatever you are typing on. Yes slavery is an issue but it is not Apple Specific. As the joke goes, the morning shift produces your iphone, the afternoon shift your samsumg.

Oh and censorship... there is a reason I don't have to worry about viruses on Apple... and they are pretty much going to publish almost anything. Yes, I know a few devs who were on the Android is best bandwagon until they ran into the issues of an open garden. They now grumble around but develop for Apple.

Puzzler

(2,505 posts)
33. FYI: the plural of "virus" is "viruses" ...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:26 AM
Jan 2012

... even if the plural ended with an "i" it would only be one "i" and not "ii". (If it were to have two "i's" the singular would be "virius" like "radius&quot .

Response to Puzzler (Reply #33)

MattBaggins

(7,901 posts)
69. It is not virii
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:09 PM
Jan 2012

it is viruses and has been for a while when the word was used by biologists.

Virus from the ancient latin was both a mass noun and an irregular one. It is a natural plural word that was borrowed.

You say campuses and anuses or campi and ani?

 

downwardly_mobile

(137 posts)
29. All hail the Great and Powerful Jobs!
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:51 PM
Jan 2012

Honestly, this kind of stuff is puke-worthy.

Forget the fact that Jobs was a deadbeat dad, that he exploited Wozniak, that he ripped off his first big idea from Xerox, or that the factories in China that make the iCrap had to put up suicide nets. What really gets my goat is not the man himself, but the Jobs-worship.

And make no mistake, what Apple has been for the past decade, what makes its products so "special" is nothing more than the blindingly obvious fact that these products are nothing more and nothing less than class markers for the contemporary American upper-middle class.

They can drive Priuses, they can join CSAs and pay premium prices for their ramps and arugula, they can afford to subsidise their post-collegiate children for at least a few staycationing hipster years in Williamsburg or Silver Lake, but nothing is quite so talismanic as the latest, most expensive Apple product: is it the iPhone 4S at this point? It's so hard to keep up.

Response to downwardly_mobile (Reply #29)

 

downwardly_mobile

(137 posts)
92. See, that's the problem right there -- arugula used to be a good upper-middle-class marker --
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 12:31 AM
Jan 2012

But now it's gotten so common that you can buy it all Wal-Mart! That's why the UMC are all members of CSAs now -- so they can ostentatiously overpay for their arugula.

It's like with Starbucks. In the 90s, Starbucks was great for the UMC. Now though, all these wannabe little cubicle rats pick up a latte on the way the cubicle farm. So now the UMC has to look down on Starbucks, and all their coffee has to be Moose Jaw or Stumpytown or something.

That's what's so great about Apple -- they keep updating! So now they have the "4S" phone -- Siri, the voice of the top 10%!

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
30. I think the Treo was the big leap, 5 years before the iPhone
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jan 2012

The idea of having a decent internet browser, PDA, phone and lots of useable apps was done in 2002.

iPhone took advantage of faster mobile internet speeds, faster processors and miniaturization of graphics, but the underlying idea was 5 years old by the time iPhone came out.

Response to stevenleser (Reply #30)

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
85. You cant point to failed products as great leaps forward
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 09:39 PM
Jan 2012

The Treo was first and Palm sold a ton of them 5 years before iPhone appeared.

Treo was the first combination phone, PDA, music player, mobile internet browsing platform and touchscreen with tons of apps.

iPhone wasn't the great leap forward, it had already been done successfully.

Response to stevenleser (Reply #85)

Response to bowens43 (Reply #37)

JCMach1

(27,555 posts)
38. My Samsung Blackjack was working just fine at that time...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 07:14 AM
Jan 2012


They only thing iPhone did was popularize touch screens.

And for the most part, Samsung is still better than the iBrand...

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
39. iPhone satisfaction at 75%; closest competitor (Samsung) at 47%
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 10:00 AM
Jan 2012

The word isn't 'popularize,' it's 'revolutionize.' Samsung is about to lose their pants to Apple for infringement.



http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/01/09/iphone-satisfaction-at-75-closest-competitor-at-47

JCMach1

(27,555 posts)
40. Samsung can take care of itself
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:12 AM
Jan 2012

Apple will have to post a mammoth number of iPhone sales for the holiday quarter to regain its position as the world's largest smartphone maker.

Samsung reported earnings today, and according to Reuters it is "forecasted" to have shipped 35 million smartphones for Q4. Bloomberg has an estimate of 32 million smartphones sold in the quarter.

Samsung doesn't release exact stats on its smartphone sales.

Regardless, if Apple wants to be crowned the world's biggest smartphone seller for Q4, it's going to have to ship 35 million iPhones.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-smartphone-sales-2012-1#ixzz1j4JBUDnt


My current phone is a Motorola Defy because I need a heavy duty phone... I am rough on them. I am also an Apple hater from way back. The number of times the old Apple IIe's crashed taught me a valuable lesson about Apple that still holds true: OVERRATED

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
41. Apple's business plan is not market share, but profit share.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:29 AM
Jan 2012

And they dominate there capturing two thirds of profit in smartphones. Pretty good for a company with only 3 models, one of which is almost four years old.

Apple (an American company) was #1 in market capitol last year. Samsung (a Korean Company) was #36.

Just wait until Apple starts getting checks from Samsung, HTC, Google etc. Analysts have been advising Apple to go for a settlement of ten dollars or more for each phone sold by infringing competitors.

Let them sell as many as they want. KA-CHING!

JCMach1

(27,555 posts)
44. Share price... I know which one I would buy!
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:38 AM
Jan 2012

It has yet to be seen how Apple plays out over time with Jobs gone.

If you love Apple, diety bless you and your overpriced product. Enjoy.

Me, I am sticking with whatever is the most open and affordable product that will do the job.

MattBaggins

(7,901 posts)
68. How about worlwide sales
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:00 PM
Jan 2012

Oh that's right iPhone users aren't aware of a world outside of themselves much less America.

I'm sorry Apple. I actually like your products and innovations. It's your users that make me hate you.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
47. Oh brother
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:59 AM
Jan 2012

You mean Apple finally came out with a phone for its fanboys and legions of tweens.

Wow.

Most Android phones leave Apple in the dust. Enjoy downloading exactly what your masters
approve of.

tledford

(917 posts)
61. Traded my iPhone for a Motorola Atrix (Android) and never looked back.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 07:42 PM
Jan 2012

Does EXCELLENT VR and TTS and did it for months before the 4S and Siri.

 

ddeclue

(16,733 posts)
55. Yawn... give me back a phone that actually works as a PHONE Steve...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 07:34 PM
Jan 2012

All the "smart" phones today really aren't very much "phone" which doesn't make them very "smart" either.

If I am in a car accident I don't want to have to wait for my stupid smartphone to first hang instead of placing the call and then force me to pull the battery to restart it. I've actually had this with two versions of Blackberry and now an Android phone where the phone hangs and I'm forced to restart it or pull the battery.

I still keep my old 2008 vintage phone phone around because guess what:

1) The battery lasts for days at a time, not 8 hours at a time and it is rarely dead though my droid phone often is when I need it.
2) The phone WORKS without hesitating, it dials the number and places the call.

I have a computer.

I have a camera.

I need my phone to be a PHONE.

Response to ddeclue (Reply #55)

 

ddeclue

(16,733 posts)
63. you mean the iPhones where if I hold them funny they lose the signal?
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 07:45 PM
Jan 2012

or the ones with the batteries built in so that you cannot remove them and have to pay someone 100 to change out an old and weak battery? or the ones with the 4 hour battery life?

iPhones don't impress me.. over priced status symbols and really no better for all that money.

REP

(21,691 posts)
64. When someone ran a red light into my car, I was able to call 911 on my iPhone
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 07:49 PM
Jan 2012

Plowed into my front end, doing $9K in damage to my car. Bluetooth and phone worked, though

REP

(21,691 posts)
75. Yes. I came close to being killed by an idiot who can't see red (lights or my car)
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:44 PM
Jan 2012

With my iPhones? No luck there - all three have been problem-free.

Response to ddeclue (Reply #63)

 

ddeclue

(16,733 posts)
74. I have close friends who unfortunately do...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:37 PM
Jan 2012

and hey my phone doesn't ever lose its signal with or without a case...

I'm planning to leave the smart phone world and just have a phone.

 

ddeclue

(16,733 posts)
78. don't particularly like them either. I've had a Storm I and a Storm II.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:59 PM
Jan 2012

Right now I have a Droid X2 and a Motorola World Phone. I like the World Phone much better than any smart phone because it is a RELIABLE phone not a poor phone combined with a weak computer.

Response to ddeclue (Reply #74)

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