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ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:18 PM Jan 2012

Comparing Gingrich to Hitler: WSJ

apparently was the ONLY major media outlet to publish the full import of Yves Lamothe's bold NH town hall question to Newt Gingrich about his stereotypical pronouncement about Blacks and food stamps, albeit in paragraphs 10 and 11 of a story about Gingrich's attacks on Romney.

For Lamothe's exact quote, see ecstatic's post buried in another GD thread at http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=144625 .

After reading ecstatic's post, I did a Google News search for "Lamothe Gingrich Hitler" (at http://news.google.com/news/section?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&btnmeta_news_search=1&q=Lamothe+Gingrich+Hitler&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&js=0 ) and got only TWO hits--no Washington Post, no NY Times.

HAVE YOU SEEN HEARD OR READ OTHER REFERENCES TO HITLER IN REPORTING ABOUT YVES LAMOTHE'S CONFRONTATION OF GINGRICH?
WHAT'S YOUR OPINION?

From http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/01/08/gingrich-swings-away-at-romney :

"Gingrich Swings Away at Romney - Washington Wire - WSJ
By Douglas Belkin
MANCHESTER, N.H. ...

Mr. Gingrich was also forced to again defend remarks he made last week when he said that he would have no problem speaking in front of the NAACP about his plan to move people from food stamps to paychecks. Yvan Lamothe, a 59-year-old immigrant from Haiti, likened Mr. Gingrichs comments to Hitlers rhetoric dehumanizing Jews as he laid the ground work for the Holocaust.

Mr. Gingrich said the comparison was ludicrous and cited the high rate of unemployment among black teenagers as proof that Mr. Obamas policys are failing many in the African-American community. Afterwards, Mr. Lamothe dismissed the response from the former Georgia congressman as Southern politics. 'He's clearly playing the race card,' Mr. Lamothe said."

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Comparing Gingrich to Hitler: WSJ (Original Post) ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 OP
K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #1
Thanks ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #3
Here's what Lamothe actually said: ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #2
IMO no network is going to report ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #4
I wait for the WSJ to express its outrage at Newt for comparing Obama to Hitler AND Stalin yellowcanine Jan 2012 #5
That's editorial, a whole different ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #6
Gingrich/Hitler and Nazi/Republican Comparison merletrutledge Jan 2012 #7

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
2. Here's what Lamothe actually said:
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:41 PM
Jan 2012

From ecstatic's post and source link at
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=144625

My point isƒ you mentioned that black people should be able to earn a paycheck, not be on welfare, implying that black people in general are on welfare. And I really took exception to that because it demeans my accomplishments, my hard work, because I have worked all my life. I have never been on welfare.Ž

You know about history. You know that back in the 1930s, Hitler started talking in Germany about a Jewish problem. My question to you is, do you think that blacks represent an American problem, and if you dont think that, will you stop using blacks in general as a stepping stone or a punching bag?Ž

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
4. IMO no network is going to report
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jan 2012

IMO no network is going to report that reference to "the final solution"--except maybe Keith Olberman's.

IMO Lamothe should get his full 15 minutes of fame for that bold confrontation of a powerful Republican icon.

Maybe Lamothe will help mute the "dog whistles" Gingrich and Santorum are bound to blow as the campaign moves to a citadel of white racism--South Carolina, whose recent "poll tax" to suppress minority votes was squelched by enforcemt of the Voting Rights Act.

IMO, Democrats should pressure the Republican Party HARD to de-authorize primaries in states whose official actions violate the Voting Rights Act and nakedly appeals to white racist voters by suppressing minority voters.

Why should openly racist states get to set the ballot slate for Presidential elections?

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
5. I wait for the WSJ to express its outrage at Newt for comparing Obama to Hitler AND Stalin
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:08 PM
Jan 2012
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/05/18/97749/gingrich-hitler-stalin/?mobile=nc

Since retiring from Congress, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has split his time between heading a health care lobbying firm, leading a pro-drilling front group with “resources” from the oil industry, advising current GOP leaders, and providing frequent conservative commentary on Fox News and other right-wing media. Now, he is promoting his new book, To Save America, which argues repeatedly that the Obama administration and Democrats in Congress are a “secular-socialist machine” that “represents as great a threat to America as Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.”

Gingrich has repeatedly defended this claim, telling both NBC’s Meredith Vieira and Fox News’ Chris Wallace that he truly believes that the Obama administration is an equivalent “threat” to America as brutal dictators like Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin:

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
6. That's editorial, a whole different
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:23 PM
Jan 2012

animal from WSJ reporting. The WSJ editorial page is a throwback to the John Birch Society.

But occasionally Murdoch's editors slip up and let some morsels of actual news still squeeze throught their far-right filter.

Thanks for your link--I'd forgotten about Gingrich's absurdly falso compariosn of Obama to Hitler.

7. Gingrich/Hitler and Nazi/Republican Comparison
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 04:42 PM
Jan 2012

At the time of Hitler’s release from prison, politics in Germany had
become less combative, and the economy had improved. This limited
Hitler’s opportunities for political agitation. As a result of the
failed Beer Hall Putsch, the NSDAP and its affiliated organisations
were banned in Bavaria. In a meeting with Prime Minister of Bavaria
Heinrich Held on 4 January 1925, Hitler agreed to respect the
authority of the state: he would only seek political power through the
democratic process.

Correlation of Newt Gingrich to Adolf Hitler

Newt Gingrich was kicked out of the U.S Congress for numerous ethic
violations. Even though Newt never served any prison time, some of
the sanctions against him that could have moved forward would have put
him possibly in prison. As a deal to get out of prison time, Newt
pleaded to lesser penalties and paid a $300,000 fine as a result.
Newt has now entered in nomination process for President of the United
States of American in 2011 through the democratic process.

The stock market in the United States crashed on 24 October 1929. The
impact in Germany was dire: millions were thrown out of work and
several major banks collapsed. Hitler and the NSDAP prepared to take
advantage of the emergency to gain support for their party. They
promised to repudiate the Versailles treaty, strengthen the economy,
and provide jobs.

Correlelation of the Republican Party to Adolf Hitler

The Republican Party and with Newt Gingrich as a party leader has
tried to take advantage of millions being thrown out of work and
several major banks collapsed under a Republican President named
George W. Bush. Newt Gingrich has made promises to repudiate current
President Obama policies in order to strengthen the economy, and
provide jobs, under what people consider now in the United States of
America as a emergency.

Racially motivated messages to millions of Republican supporters

German forces and their European allies occupied most of Europe and
North Africa. These gains were gradually reversed after 1941, and in
1945 the Allied armies defeated the German army. Hitler’s supremacist
and racially motivated policies resulted in the systematic murder of
eleven million people, including nearly six million Jews (Wikipedia).

The Tea Party and Republican party have joined forces spewing racially
charged messages

Examples from the Republican Party leadership such as calling people
tar babies, anchor babies, our blacks are better than your blacks,
electrified fences meant to kill people, gays being barbarians, and
all using the Christain mask to support their deeds. Ever since
President Barack Obama elections, racially charged and insensitve
messages have been relayed throughout America in order to attack the
President and minorities personally. Demonizing particular classes of
people in order to rally support for their policies and initiatives.

Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street are considered extremist parties

Hitler made a prominent appearance at the trial of two Reichswehr
officers, Lieutenants Richard Scheringer and Hans Ludin, in the autumn
of 1930. Both were charged with membership in the NSDAP, at that time
illegal for Reichswehr personnel.[106] The prosecution argued that the
NSDAP was an extremist party, prompting defence lawyer Hans Frank to
call on Hitler to testify in court.[107] On 25 September 1930 Hitler
testified that his party would pursue political power solely through
democratic elections.[108] Hitler’s testimony won him many supporters
in the officer corps.[109] (Wikipedia).

If you put Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street in the place where it says
NSDAP was an extremist party. The Republican Party have played both
organizations as extreme but use their influence and motives as a way
of support for the Republican Party. Either with discuss or huge
disrespect depending on the side of the issue that maintain their
base. The Tea Party is split on whether it is the Tea Party or the
Republican Party. The snake did not cut off its own head. It only
grew two heads or regeneration. These parties may not be on trial,
but they are on trial everyday through the media and on the defense at
every moment in society.

The Republican Party is preparing for a loss in 2012. Right now they
are content at losing the election against President Obama because
this election would establish the Party as a strong force in American
Politics. Gingrich lost the first two rounds in the primary and won
the third round. The candidates that have won so far has study
Hitler’s path to power. Racially charged and demonizing a class of
people. Hitler example was political enemies and Jews. However his
brutality would be felt by all classes of people from Germany and
throughout the world.

In 1932 Hitler ran against von Hindenburg in the presidential
elections. The viability of his candidacy was underscored by a 27
January 1932 speech to the Industry Club in Düsseldorf, which won him
support from many of Germany’s most powerful industrialists.[115]
However, Hindenburg had support from various nationalist, monarchist,
Catholic, and republican parties, and some social democrats. Hitler
used the campaign slogan “Hitler über Deutschland” (“Hitler over
Germany”), a reference to both his political ambitions and to his
campaigning by aircraft.[116] Hitler came in second in both rounds of
the election, garnering more than 35% of the vote in the final
election. Although he lost to Hindenburg, this election established
Hitler as a strong force in German politics.[(Wikipedia)

Newt tries to win the Republican primary by running against the
Republican establishment.

The absence of an effective government prompted two influential
politicians, Franz von Papen and Alfred Hugenberg, along with several
other industrialists and businessmen, to write a letter to von
Hindenburg. The signers urged Hindenburg to appoint Hitler as leader
of a government "independent from parliamentary parties", which could
turn into a movement that would "enrapture millions of
people".[Wikipedia)

This is nothing more than the Koch brothers and other elitist that
will try to work with whomever win election to keep such a influential
figure in politics and in government. The Tea Party became a movement
that would "enrapture millions of people with such prominent and
wealthy support.

The Republican Party has attacked Unions and what they consider
Socialist Democrats

Having achieved full control over the legislative and executive
branches of government, Hitler and his political allies embarked on a
systematic suppression of the remaining political opposition. The
Social Democratic Party was banned and all its assets seized.[133]
While many trade union delegates were in Berlin for May Day
activities, SA stormtroopers demolished trade union offices around the
country. On 2 May 1933 all trade unions were forced to dissolve and
their leaders were arrested; some were sent to concentration
camps.[134] The German Labour Front was formed to represent all
workers, administrators, and company owners together as one group.
This new trade union reflected the concept of national socialism in
the spirit of Hitler’s “Volksgemeinschaft” (community of all German
people).[ (Wikipedia). This is the current day Republican Party being
lead by Hitler's playbook. Unions and political opponents would be
suppressed and thats exactly what the Republican Party is trying to
do.

Hitlers warned us about those that would follow his path with this
passage below... We laugh and joke about the Republican Party and
their ideology, but Hitler taught us all not to think of them as
foolishly while they are driven for power. The Republican Party is
trying to govern the United States by Hitler's playbook.



At the risk of appearing to talk nonsense I tell you that the National
Socialist movement will go on for 1,000 years! ... Don't forget how
people laughed at me 15 years ago when I declared that one day I would
govern Germany. They laugh now, just as foolishly, when I declare that
I shall remain in power!

— Adolf Hitler to a British correspondent in Berlin, June 1934


pRESIDENTIAL rEPUBLICAN CANDIDATE MITT ROMNEY HELP RUN THE OLYMPICS
JUST LIKE HITLER. THE PASSAGE BELOW DESCRIBE EXACTLY WHAT THE
REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO DO. THEY WANT TO GO TO WAR ALMOST
IMMEDIATELY WITH OTHER COUNTRIES AFTER GAINING THE PRESIDENCY. BELOW
DESCRIBES THE UNITED STATES CURRENT CONDITION AND THE FUTURE RESULTS
IF HITLER WAS TO TAKE POWER. IT IS EXACTLY THE METHODOLOGY OF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY.


In 1935 Hitler appointed Hjalmar Schacht as Plenipotentiary for War
Economy, in charge of preparing the economy for war. Reconstruction
and rearmament were financed through Mefo bills, printing money, and
seizing the assets of people arrested as enemies of the State,
including Jews.[149] Unemployment fell substantially, from six million
in 1932 to one million in 1936.[150] Hitler oversaw one of the largest
infrastructure improvement campaigns in German history, leading to the
construction of dams, autobahns, railroads, and other civil works.
Wages were slightly reduced in the pre–World War II years over those
of the Weimar Republic, while the cost of living increased by
25%.[151]

Hitler’s government sponsored architecture on an immense scale. Albert
Speer, instrumental in implementing Hitler’s classicist
reinterpretation of German culture, was placed in charge of the
proposed architectural renovations of Berlin.[152] In 1936 Hitler
opened the summer Olympic games in Berlin.


NEWT GINGRICH AT A 2012 SOUTH CAROLINA DEBATE TALKED ABOUT SAUDI
ARABIA ALLIANCE WITH OTHER COUNTRIES IN ORDER TO INCREASE THEIR
NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES. THE PASSAGE BELOW SHOWS HOW HITLER CREATED
ALLIANCES WITH GLOBAL POWERS AS WELL, OTHER THAN THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.


In February 1938, on the advice of his newly appointed Foreign
Minister, the strongly pro-Japanese Joachim von Ribbentrop, Hitler
ended the Sino-German alliance with the Republic of China to instead
enter into an alliance with the more modern and powerful Japan. Hitler
announced German recognition of Manchukuo, the Japanese-occupied state
in Manchuria, and renounced German claims to their former colonies in
the Pacific held by Japan.[190] Hitler ordered an end to arms
shipments to China, and recalled all German officers working with the
Chinese Army.[190] In retaliation, Chinese General Chiang Kai-shek
cancelled all Sino-German economic agreements, depriving the Germans
of many Chinese raw materials, though they did continue to ship
tungsten, a key metal in armaments production, through to 1939.[191]
(WIKIPEDIA)


NEWT GINGRICH IS TRYING TO DESTROY CHRISTAIN IDEOLOGY AND HITLER LIFE
WAS SURROUNDING BY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT RELIGIOUS VIEWS
MEANT TO BE INTERPRETED IN HIS OWN “EVIL” WAY.


Hitler’s parents were Roman Catholics, but after leaving home he never
attended Mass or received the sacraments.[295] He favoured aspects of
Protestantism that suited his own views, and adopted some elements of
the Catholic Church’s hierarchical organisation, liturgy, and
phraseology in his politics.[296][297] After his move to Germany,
Hitler did not leave his church. Historian Richard Steigmann-Gall
concludes that he “can be classified as Catholic”,[298] but that
“nominal church membership is a very unreliable gauge of actual piety
in this context.”[299]

In public, Hitler often praised Christian heritage and German
Christian culture, and professed a belief in an “Aryan” Jesus Christ—a
Jesus who fought against the Jews.[300] He spoke of his interpretation
of Christianity as a central motivation for his antisemitism, stating
that “As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but
I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.”[301][302] In
private, Hitler was more critical of traditional Christianity,
considering it a religion fit only for slaves; he admired the power of
Rome but maintained a severe hostility towards its teaching.[303]
Historian John S. Conway states that Hitler held a “fundamental
antagonism” towards the Christian churches.[304]






Hitler meeting Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. December 1941

In political relations with the church, Hitler adopted a strategy
“that suited his immediate political purposes”.[304] According to a US
Office of Strategic Services report, Hitler had a general plan, even
before his rise to power, to destroy the influence of Christian
churches within the Reich.[305][306] The report titled “The Nazi
Master Plan” stated that the destruction of the church was a goal of
the movement right from the start, but that it was inexpedient to
express this extreme position publicly.[307] His intention, according
to Bullock, was to wait until the war was over to destroy the
influence of Christianity.[303] He articulated his view on the
relationship between religion and national identity as “We do not want
any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical
faith and hope and love in and for Germany”.[308]


NEWT MARRIED HIS MISTRESS AND HITLER MARRIED HIS MISTRESS. THE
PASSAGE BELOW DESCRIBES THE SIMILARITIES.


Hitler family and Sexuality of Adolf Hitler

To the public, Hitler promoted his own image as that of a man without
a domestic life, dedicated entirely to his political
mission.[112][333] He met his mistress, Eva Braun, in 1929,[334] and
married her in April 1945.[335] In September 1931 his niece, Geli
Raubal, committed suicide with Hitler’s gun in his Munich apartment.
Geli was believed to be in a romantic relationship with him, and her
death was a source of deep, lasting pain.[336] Paula Hitler, the last
living member of the immediate family, died in 1960.[337]

Hitler in media











Video of Adolf Hitler at Berchtesgaden (c. 1941)

See also: Adolf Hitler in popular culture and List of speeches given
by Adolf Hitler

Hitler was a renowned orator, and honed his skills by giving speeches
to military audiences in 1919 and 1920. He became adept at using
populist themes targeted to his audience, including the use of popular
scapegoats who could be blamed for the economic hardships of his
listeners.[338][339][340] He had personal magnetism, hypnotic blue
eyes, and an exceptionally good memory, traits he used to his
advantage while engaged in public speaking.[341] Alfons Heck, a former
member of the Hitler Youth, describes the reaction to a speech by
Hitler: “We erupted into a frenzy of nationalistic pride that bordered
on hysteria. For minutes on end, we shouted at the top of our lungs,
with tears streaming down our faces: Sieg Heil, Sieg Heil, Sieg Heil!
From that moment on, I belonged to Adolf Hitler body and soul”. NEWT
GINGRICH GIVES OUT FIERY SPEECHES AND ENCOURAGES A STRONGER MORE
AGGRESSIVE MILITARY, RACIALLY MOTIVATED REMARKS, AND OUTSTANDING AT
DEBATES AND PUBLIC SPEAKING WITH HIS RHETORICAL LEADERSHIP. NEWT AND
HITLER KNOW HOW TO FIRE UP A CROWD SUCH AS THE ONES AT THEIR STUMP
SPEECHES AND DEBATES.[342] (wIKIPEDIA)

AMERICA, PLEASE DO NOT LET HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

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