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Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
1. The thing about conspiracy theories is that they are almost impossible to absolutely debunk...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 11:42 AM
Nov 2020

...in the minds of their believers. As soon as one enters a realm in which the truth need not be respected nor facts honored as carrying any more weight than someone's latest feverish suspician, plot lines are as free to develop wildly as would be any science fiction script.

And to all of you fellow old timers out there, did you hear that Paul is dead?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
4. Real old time: Did you hear that Nero is NOT dead?
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:25 PM
Nov 2020
Some of these factors combined to make it that “there were people who… even continued to circulate his edicts, pretending he was still alive and would soon return to confound his enemies” (Suetonius, Nero 57). Could the idea that people were continuing to ‘circulate Neronian edicts’ not only mean that they were following the edicts of Nero himself but that people were issuing false edicts in his name?

This unwillingness to accept the demise of the last Julio-Claudian emperor and lingering loyalty and suspicion to both the dynasty and Nero himself enabled the appearance of three separate men claiming to be the deceased emperor.
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This first (unnamed) Neronian pretender was either a slave from Pontus or a freedman from Italy. The basis for his impersonation was that he not only looked like Nero, but he could play the cithara and was a trained singer. That the impostor (and Tacitus?) felt that this was important evidence of his being Nero demonstrates what the deceased emperor was most famous for in Greece – Nero had visited Greece in 66-67 to participate at the Panhellenic Games and declared the ‘liberation’ of the Greeks.
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This Parthian goodwill towards the memory of Nero, their less favourable relations with the Flavians and the potential political benefits saw them back “the mysterious individual [who] came forward claiming to be Nero” (Suetonius, Nero 57) some twenty years after his death – c.88 during the reign of Domitian, who the Parthians may have known was unpopular with the Roman senatorial classes (by this point, Pacorus II had overcome his brothers and was sole Parthian king).

https://classicalassociationni.wordpress.com/2020/03/22/neros-afterlife-part-i-the-imposters-and-never-say-nero-again/

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
2. I keep reading from RW sites that all the swing states stopped counting ballots
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 11:57 AM
Nov 2020

ALL AT ONCE overnight on Election Night to figure out how many votes needed to be added for Biden, and then apparently poll workers rushed to fill out thousands of ballots in those states for Biden, and then the count started back up again. Yes, a huge multi-state conspiracy that involved hundreds of poll workers and officials, and that also curiously did not help Dems take the Senate or keep all the House seats... Edit to add: I watched election returns all night, does anybody remember ANYTHING about counts not being conducted?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
3. "Montgomery's lawyer, Larry Klayman" ... oh, what a surprise
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:20 PM
Nov 2020

Failed (and temporarily banned) lawyer to the RWNJ elite:

“He’s a genius, and he loves America,” Thomas McInerney, a retired Air Force lieutenant general and one-time leader in the birther movement, said of Montgomery on Tuesday on Bannon’s podcast, as Bannon praised an article on Montgomery’s claims. “He’s the programmer that made all this happen, and he’s on our side.”

Montgomery’s lawyer, Larry Klayman—a favorite attorney for fringe right-wing figures—didn’t respond to a request for comment. Klayman himself was temporarily suspended from practicing law in June.

What Trump allies tend to leave out, however, is that Montgomery has a long history of making outlandish claims that fail to come true. As an intelligence contractor at the height of the War on Terror, Montgomery was behind what’s been called “one of the most elaborate and dangerous hoaxes in American history,” churning out allegedly fictitious data that once prompted the Bush administration to consider shooting down airplanes.
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Arpaio was embroiled in a federal case over his department’s treatment of Latino drivers, and furious at the federal judge who had ruled against him. According to reports and court testimony, Montgomery convinced Arpaio that he had a software called “Hammer” that could prove that the federal judge was colluding against Arpaio with the Justice Department and then-Attorney General Eric Holder.

It is all one - what's the word I'm looking for? Ah yes, swamp.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
10. He's NOT "promoting it." We're fools if we think we don't need to understand the enemy.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:37 PM
Nov 2020

Thanks BestMan23!!!

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
8. Is this the successor to Qanon? Have there been any Q drops since 11/3?
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:36 PM
Nov 2020

There are no new ones on qanon.pub, but maybe they have moved to another web site?

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