Rant: I'm listening to an interview getting reactions on Joe And Kamala's win

[In It to Win It]

I’ve listened to conservatives who voted for Biden and I’ve listened to conservatives that stuck with Trump.

Throughout the interviews of people that decided to stick with Trump, they’ve said (1) Biden is a Trojan horse for the rise of socialism, and (2) how liberals have resisted Trump and haven’t given him a chance.

This rant is about number 2:

I consider myself a reasonable person. If someone wins the presidency, I recognize that win. I don’t argue the results if someone that I did not support wins the presidency. I WILL ABSOLUTELY ADMIT THAT I DID NOT GIVE DONALD TRUMP A CHANCE. I WILL ADMIT THAT LOUD AND PROUD! NEVER! EVER! WORST PRESIDENT OF MY SHORT LIFE AND SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED!

...and let me tell you exactly the reason why. He’s never given us a chance. NOT ONCE did Trump ever try to reach across the aisle. Trump tried to do everything on a partisan party line.

Centrist judges? None!
Centrist legislation? Nope!
Centrist message? Nonexistent!
Compromise? No thanks!

Presidents usually reach across the aisle at some point.

Bill Clinton worked with Republicans, and even signed legislation that Republicans liked. Bill Clinton throughout his presidency moved more to the right as his presidency went along.

Bush 43 reached across the aisle and worked with Democrats. You could even make the argument that Bush 43 moved a little left on certain issues.

Obama started in the center and considered Republican ideas. Obama worked with Republicans where he could. He tried to work with Republican leader John Boehner on legislation that Republicans can get behind.

The Republican leader on the hill couldn’t get his own party to stop resisting. They didn’t give Barack Obama a chance!

Barack Obama thought about Republicans when he nominated a centrist judge that Republicans claimed they could get behind.

Trump ran on a message of ‘FUCK DEMOCRATS!’ in 2016.
Trump governed with a ‘FUCK DEMOCRATS!’ attitude the entire four years.
Trump ran on a “FUCK DEMOCRATS!’ message in 2020.

How exactly am I supposed to give him a chance when he’s never given me one?

[honest.abe]

1. Did the capital of Uganda win something??

[ShazzieB]

5. Sometimes autocorrect has a mind of its own...?

[In It to Win It]

10. It was 😂 I corrected it

[AmericanCanuck]

2. Giving an analogy of a plate of food

There is a difference between giving a chance to broccoli and brussels sprouts vs giving a chance to arsenic and cyanide.

Trump was the latter.

[Walleye]

3. They complain that everybody hates Trump. Do they ever question why everybody hates him so much?

Most people generally hate a sadistic bully, not that big of a mystery. Americans traditionally hate bullies

[ShazzieB]

8. Exactly!

I have never hated someone without a reason. When it comes to Trump, the list of reasons is so long, my fingers would cramp up before I could type half of them.

[Walleye]

9. We certainly don't hate him because of his policies. He doesn't have any

They always say we’re against his agenda I haven’t figured out what the fuck is agenda is. Other than being as cruel as possible to the less fortunate

[In It to Win It]

12. We certainly don't hate him because of his policies. He doesn't have any

😂😂😂

Ain’t that the truth!

[In It to Win It]

11. Absolutely! My number 1 reason for disliking Trump is that he's an asshole

Before I get to any policy disagreements, I’d spend the most time talking about what a dick that man is.

[unblock]

4. yup. he's demonized democrats from day one. never once even pretended to be president for all of us.

we voted against him, so he hates us, has always hated us, why should he do anything nice for us or say anything nice about us.

that's the way he thinks, so he's always acted like he only ever cared about republicans.

so why on earth should we accept that?

[In It to Win It]

13. Never! Not an ounce of "President for all"...

Those fires on the west coast damn sure went ignored. He made one visit and that was pretty much all the attention it got... but he made sure that the several rounds of agricultural aid for his trade war and COVID relief went smoothly.

[unblock]

14. I'm guessing he went there and said, "but it won't spread to Nevada, right?"

[Demsrule86]

6. This shows how much we work we must do to fix this...given our system, we have to win over

some of those folks. And can imagine if we had run Sanders or Warren? Biden won because they couldn't pin the faux socialist label on him.

[In It to Win It]

15. I don't disagree

I, truthfully, think there's a real opportunity for Biden and Harris to widen the tent. I think Trump left the door wide open to widen the tent with issues that he fucked up on and there is a chance to get in and make things work for people.

[roscoeroscoe]

7. And the Trump Admin. refused to turn over documents, or...

...Comply with subpoenas...

Worked on legislation or budgets with 'Republican only' meetings - at the White House. That is to say, would not even involve Democratic representatives in negotiations.

Remember!? Were any of you tracking???!!!

[Imperialism Inc.]

16. Actually some did give him a chance.

I remember Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders and a few others reaching out at the beginning of his term and saying, "hey if you want to do this infrastructure thing and really do some things to help American workers, lets do it." I think they saw that some of the stuff he campaigned on was definitely out of place in the Republican party. They weren't stupid of course and knew he was probably just being a conman but it was worth a try. Of course it took about 2 weeks or less to realize he lacked the competence and intelligence to avoid being completely captured by the Republican party.