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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,936 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:18 PM Nov 2020

Just Skip The Senate To Install A Cabinet, Progressives Urge Joe Biden

President-elect Joe Biden faces the very real possibility of taking office with a Senate controlled by Republicans, ready to block him at every turn. Progressive activists say they have a simple solution, at least when it comes to installing his top officials: Just go around Congress.

The Senate is currently split, with two races still to be called and two others in Georgia to be decided in Jan. 5 runoffs.

Allies of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) told Axios last week that a GOP-controlled Senate would be willing to go along with Biden’s nominations for his administration, as long as they’re centrists.

But progressive activists say that path would be unacceptable, and they’re already putting pressure on the incoming Biden administration to go around the Senate so that McConnell doesn’t get to decide a Democratic Cabinet.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/joe-biden-cabinet-senate-vacancy-act-104500314.html

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Just Skip The Senate To Install A Cabinet, Progressives Urge Joe Biden (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 OP
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Bernie didn't get the nomination Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 #5
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No it isn't SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #14
Then Bernie should have won at least 1 of the last two primaries. Budi Nov 2020 #8
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well it ain't progressives underground. SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #15
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Doing that makes us no different than Trump. redstatebluegirl Nov 2020 #2
+1 octoberlib Nov 2020 #3
Biden chooses whom he wants. Mitch says no. Can't get the votes. BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #6
I'm fine with him cutting out the middle man... lame54 Nov 2020 #16
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Yep-they don't follow the rules, but we have to? BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #22
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #23
I lulz'd KG Nov 2020 #19
Truth!! grobertj Nov 2020 #33
Pick progs OR ELSE! Budi Nov 2020 #4
Progressives. How did that label become one small part of the party. LakeArenal Nov 2020 #7
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Who? That isn't what I see so I need more. Like names. LakeArenal Nov 2020 #24
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Operative phrase (caps mine) - "WHAT CAN BE DONE"! George II Nov 2020 #27
Exactly, LA.. The labels are just Divisive.. Cha Nov 2020 #28
My parents, the most "progressive" people I've known, were so decades before the term.... George II Nov 2020 #31
I agree Gothmog Nov 2020 #32
"But progressive activists say that path would be unacceptable". Yea fuck that. Tarc Nov 2020 #9
I agree. David__77 Nov 2020 #10
I believe if a president lets a bill sit on his desk for a while ... Jeebo Nov 2020 #11
Maybe, but not for three months.... Sogo Nov 2020 #21
No. former9thward Nov 2020 #30
I don't recall any of tRump's cabinet being centrists. ffr Nov 2020 #25
If they won't let him start his administration, then he'll just do what he wants. lindysalsagal Nov 2020 #29
Bottom line is that courts have already ruled the current DHS chief holds his position illegally pecosbob Nov 2020 #34
I'm certainly impressed at Message Removed. Very busy, very adamant--very gone. Hekate Nov 2020 #35

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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,936 posts)
5. Bernie didn't get the nomination
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:27 PM
Nov 2020

He's only a Democrat when it's convienient for him. As Biden said he defeated the socialist.

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SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
14. No it isn't
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 05:02 PM
Nov 2020

Bernie is not a Democrat.

Socialism on the ballot cost us.

I voted for Bernie in the primary.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
8. Then Bernie should have won at least 1 of the last two primaries.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:30 PM
Nov 2020

But he couldn't even do that.
Voters chose Joe Biden.
Bernie's demands are still irrelevant today. Like yesterday & the day before that.

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SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
15. well it ain't progressives underground.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 05:03 PM
Nov 2020

It is Democratic underground. Government serves many different people and interests and that's what makes the Democratic party the best one we have.

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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
2. Doing that makes us no different than Trump.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:23 PM
Nov 2020

I think Progressives need to calm down a bit and let Joe do what he thinks is best. We did not get a "mandate", we lost seats in the House and we may not be able to win a majority in the Senate. No mandate, so we can't go total left on the country or we will lose even more in 2022. I am growing weary of the progressives to be honest. They don't know how to win anywhere except where it is bright blue. You don't win national elections that way.

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
6. Biden chooses whom he wants. Mitch says no. Can't get the votes.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:28 PM
Nov 2020

Biden installs same person as acting secretary. It's the precedent now, and I'm fine with it.

lame54

(35,287 posts)
16. I'm fine with him cutting out the middle man...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 05:03 PM
Nov 2020

Mitch already gave his intentions

Why waste time being told the inevitable no

Start placing people

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LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
7. Progressives. How did that label become one small part of the party.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:29 PM
Nov 2020

We all are progressive. Certainly not regressive. AOCis not our rival. Just because she wants to the same goals a different way.
Having said that.... I don’t need Bernie Sanders telling me what progressive is.

I want Joe to attain his goal. I support this agenda. That is who one the primary and the election.

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Cha

(297,158 posts)
28. Exactly, LA.. The labels are just Divisive..
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 07:08 PM
Nov 2020

Joe Biden & Kamala Harris Are Progressive and Biden has Won two Important elections THIS YEAR.. IT's his Progressive Agenda that is Popular & he Chose Kamala to take that journey with him.

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. My parents, the most "progressive" people I've known, were so decades before the term....
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 07:39 PM
Nov 2020

..."progressives" became popular.

They were DEMOCRATS! They were among a group who founded a Democratic Club in Queens, NY (the equivalent to Democratic Committees elsewhere) opposed to the war in Vietnam.

Many so-called "progressives" today could have learned a lot from them.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
9. "But progressive activists say that path would be unacceptable". Yea fuck that.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:32 PM
Nov 2020

Then "progressive activists" need to shut the fuck up.

Trump bypassed governmental norms and laws routinely to do whatever he damn well pleased, Joe Biden is not the same. I sure as hell hope we can flip those 2 GA seats and avoid this, but if not, the GOP rightfully and lawfully holds the Senate, which has to confirm Cabinet picks.

This is the price of coming up short in 2020; there will be compromise.

Jeebo

(2,023 posts)
11. I believe if a president lets a bill sit on his desk for a while ...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 04:47 PM
Nov 2020

... without a signature or a veto, it eventually becomes law. So if a president's nominees sit in the Senate without an up-or-down vote, shouldn't it work the same way? Shouldn't they also be installed after a reasonable amount of time? President Biden should be able to tell Mitch McTurtle, "Senator, you have had my nomination for Secretary of the Whatever for three months and you have not acted on it, therefore my Secretary of the Whatever is now confirmed, not by a vote of the Senate but by your inaction. You have a responsibility and a duty to advise and consent, and if you shirk that duty my nominees are confirmed." Could Biden legally do that with Cabinet and judicial appointments? As I recall, several years ago some people were telling Obama he should consider doing that.

-- Ron

lindysalsagal

(20,678 posts)
29. If they won't let him start his administration, then he'll just do what he wants.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 07:10 PM
Nov 2020

These are the new norms: The gop can't complain.

pecosbob

(7,537 posts)
34. Bottom line is that courts have already ruled the current DHS chief holds his position illegally
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 08:42 PM
Nov 2020

as well as other Trump acting cabinet officials. We need to find a better mechanic than ignoring the law as Republicans seem wont to do.

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